This is a discussion on Let's talk about duals! within the Socionics Forum forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; Originally Posted by Wisteria Get lost with your dumb ISFJ stereotypes. That is typism and it's against the forum rules. ...
-You can't derive intertype relationships (not in the IM way socionics does it at least) from mbti. But I'm sure you can create some other generic "intertype relations" based on observation I guess.
Specifically the concept of duality was indirectly stated by Jung (sensors attract intuitives, feelers attract thinkers etc). In this case you can derive these things but no one else did so...
But that isn't always the case, switching the J and P won't always translate to the same type. There are tons of people typing ENTJ in myers briggs that are SLE (ESTp) in socionnics or ILI (INTp) in socionics and INFP in myers briggs.
Anyway, I didn't read all posts so I'm not sure why you're trippin about socionics but this is getting off topic.
i said to myself, socionics keep talking about this dual thing but i really am not interested with developing my si... boring shit. sorry, socionics. i guess that's what i "must" do. but i don't want to. you know? i will prefer infp over an isfj for all those reasons. but yeah, this is my last comment in this section, categorical and rigid thinking going on here is rather annoying.
Last edited by Bastard; 09-18-2018 at 07:33 PM.
Non-romantically: Duals make for good buddies and someone who'll have your back when you need it.
Romantically: Duals just get you without having to constantly put on aires or having to be "on" all the time. Especially valuable if you're a public figure or someone who's considered a pillar of the community or simply of taking the role of the head of one's family as many Gammas are tend to be.
No it's just someone who is overemotional and labels superficial people as Fe types. People probably beleive Fe is "superficial" because their social skills or understanding is lacking.Sounds more ENFp than ENTp.
If it's the second case, the more natural approach is to go to mbti first. Meaning the person derived the 16 types by reading Jung 'cause they ended up noticing by the end he mentions you can couple all of the 8 types with one of the 2 auxiliary functions and then came to the same conclusion as modern mbti that the third function is opposite in direction the the auxiliary. (Although, if you want to discuss some other time I have plenty of reasons to be convinced that Jung actually meant that all the other functions are opposite to the main: for instance an INTP would be Ti > Ne > Se > Fe)
Doesn't matter what "people do" or what is "natural," tbh.
Last edited by Bastard; 09-20-2018 at 07:55 PM.
MBTI can tell you something about your socionics TIM, like which functions you are currently using. And finding your MBTI is easy af, all you have to do is take the test.I'm not sure if you mean go from "working with" socionics to mbti or if you mean someone can assume mbti system through socionics. Either way, I hardly think so. If it's the first case, I don't see it happening often cause mbti is more popular anyway, so people go there first, then to socionics, then they find socionics complicated and go back.Actually in the reinin test I got all the process extroverts from choosing only a couple dichotomies that I was most sure of (EIE, SEE, ILE and LSE)EIE, LSI, LSE or EII?
I thought Beta/Delta because of Si-Te. Could be wrong about that though, because I did type as SEI (Si-Fe).imaois bad, isn't it?