Liking of clear directional instructions: Is this Se-seeking? or Te-seeking?

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    Liking of clear directional instructions: Is this Se-seeking? or Te-seeking?

    In the workplace at least, I find myself getting along best with managers who are capable of giving "clear and directional" instructions.

    I just had some miscommunications with my manager earlier. He told me to pack a bunch of items into this cardboard box, but he didn't exactly tell me how he wanted me to pack it, he didn't give me any "clear and directional" instructions on how to pack it, so I ended up packing it in my own way.

    And then he started telling me that I've packed it the wrong way.

    Some examples of the "clear and directional" instructions I was looking for are these:

    "I want you to pack this certain item into this certain plastic bag."
    "I want you to dismantle this item using this certain tool."
    "I want you to pack these two smaller cardboard box into this bigger cardboard box."


    I need those type of detailed step-by-step "clear and directional" instructions, but he didn't give me any of these instructions.

    Instead, he just gave me those items and the carton, and then he just told me to pack it.

    His instructions wasn't clear enough for me, I didn't know what he wanted, hence, I ended up packing it the wrong way.

    Does my strong liking of detailed step-by-step clear directional instructions point toward Se-seeking, or does this point more toward Te-seeking?



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    I wonder if that miscommunication happens because I was subconsciously expecting my manager to act like my dual, and I wanted him to give me clear directional instructions like the way my dual is able to.

    But I have no idea who is my dual. I can see either IEI and ESI for my own type, so I don't know if my dual is SLE or LIE, but I just know that my dual is someone who is able to provide step-by-step detailed clear directional instructions for me. They are someone who will always tell me what to do, how to do it, and they will always provide lots of details and they won't leave me guessing on what or how I need to do something.

    Which socionics type does my dual sound like though? SLE? Or LIE? Or some other type?

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    t I just know that my dual is someone who is able to provide step-by-step detailed clear directional instructions for me. They are someone who will always tell me what to do, how to do it, and they will always provide lots of details and they won't leave me guessing on what or how I need to do something.
    Could be Ti seeking, which is about the sequence of events and very systematic.

    It depends, did you not understand him because of having less common sense of how to do the packing efficiently, not understand what he was trying to tell you, or the order in which you do it?

    Communication is more related to ethics in socionics, but i'm not that is the problem here or not. It sounds like maybe you didn't get what he was wanting you to do and you didn't know how. Seems like Ti and Se/Ne seeking to need to a clear set of instructions with all the details. In other words someone to provide you with that sequential step by step instructions to perform a Te related task.

    I don't think it's Te seeking, could be Te PoLR seeking the help of Ti to compensate for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisteria View Post
    Could be Ti seeking, which is about the sequence of events and very systematic.

    It depends, did you not understand him because of having less common sense of how to do the packing efficiently, not understand what he was trying to tell you, or the order in which you do it?

    Communication is more related to ethics in socionics, but i'm not that is the problem here or not. It sounds like maybe you didn't get what he was wanting you to do and you didn't know how. Seems like Ti and Se/Ne seeking to need to a clear set of instructions with all the details. In other words someone to provide you with that sequential step by step instructions to perform a Te related task.

    I don't think it's Te seeking, could be Te PoLR seeking the help of Ti to compensate for it.
    It's mostly about me not having enough common sense of how to do the packing efficiently. I understood that he wanted me to pack those items, but he gave me a bunch of plastic bags, box, and also the items to pack, and without any further instructions, he just told me to pack those items. How on earth am I supposed to know which items go into which plastic bags and which box? And he didn't tell me that those two smaller box are supposed to fit into the bigger box either. I didn't even know that those three box are related to each other, since that larger box was being placed together with a bunch of other unwanted cardboard boxes, so I naturally thought that the larger box was one of those unwanted cardboard box.

    I tend to be a total klutz when it comes to anything that requires details or practical work, and I often need someone to guide me when it comes to these stuff.

    How do I tell if I'm Te PoLR though? I find myself hating household chores, I hate vacuuming the floor, I hate doing laundry, I hate washing dishes. Fuck those stuff. And I also tend to hate the grind of 9-5 rat race.
    I don't mind work if I'm working for myself, but I hate work if I'm working for others. Is this Te PoLR?

    I'm not sure if I'm Ti-seeking either, because I have another different manager whom I believed is my dual. And he doesn't really Ti a lot. Like there was one time when I did some stuff wrongly, and he didn't even say anything, just asked me if I needed any help, and then he demonstrated to me how to do that certain task.
    Anyway, that manager of mine is situated at a different branch most of the time, but occasionally, he will visit my branch. The first time I saw him, I actually find him quite attractive, and also approachable. I find him really attractive, to the extent that I dare not talk to him, but at the same time, I can't help but to notice his presence and I find myself feeling strongly drawn to him. I want to get to know him better, but somehow he just doesn't seem to notice me. From the way I reacted to him, I'm pretty certain he is my dual type in socionics. Not sure what's his type though, but he doesn't strike me as a Ti base type..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schizoid View Post
    It's mostly about me not having enough common sense of how to do the packing efficiently. I understood that he wanted me to pack those items, but he gave me a bunch of plastic bags, box, and also the items to pack, and without any further instructions, he just told me to pack those items. How on earth am I supposed to know which items go into which plastic bags and which box? And he didn't tell me that those two smaller box are supposed to fit into the bigger box either. I didn't even know that those three box are related to each other, since that larger box was being placed together with a bunch of other unwanted cardboard boxes, so I naturally thought that the larger box was one of those unwanted cardboard box.

    I tend to be a total klutz when it comes to anything that requires details or practical work, and I often need someone to guide me when it comes to these stuff.
    Sounds like bad Te-Si, and you want supervision on this.


    How do I tell if I'm Te PoLR though? I find myself hating household chores, I hate vacuuming the floor, I hate doing laundry, I hate washing dishes. Fuck those stuff. And I also tend to hate the grind of 9-5 rat race.
    I don't mind work if I'm working for myself, but I hate work if I'm working for others. Is this Te PoLR?
    If you hate working for others that does sound like Te PoLR. Not liking housework also sounds like Te or Si PoLR.

    I'm not sure if I'm Ti-seeking either, because I have another different manager whom I believed is my dual. And he doesn't really Ti a lot. Like there was one time when I did some stuff wrongly, and he didn't even say anything, just asked me if I needed any help, and then he demonstrated to me how to do that certain task.
    Anyway, that manager of mine is situated at a different branch most of the time, but occasionally, he will visit my branch. The first time I saw him, I actually find him quite attractive, and also approachable. I find him really attractive, to the extent that I dare not talk to him, but at the same time, I can't help but to notice his presence and I find myself feeling strongly drawn to him. I want to get to know him better, but somehow he just doesn't seem to notice me. From the way I reacted to him, I'm pretty certain he is my dual type in socionics. Not sure what's his type though, but he doesn't strike me as a Ti base type..?
    Workplace romance huh? It sounds like he could be Te ego, not 100% sure though because I don't know much about them. And just because you find them attractive, doesn't mean they have to be a dual. It could be a supervision relationship (which is also common as a romantic relationship according to socionics). Maybe you're like an SEI and he's LSE. But i'm assuming a lot here tbh.

    The difference between PoLR and suggestive is with the vulnerable function you feel you have to do it but you hate it, whereas the dual seeking function is something you like doing and want to do yourself even if you're not good at doing it with others. Both of them you might be good at doing in your own time or independently, but not with other people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisteria View Post

    Workplace romance huh? It sounds like he could be Te ego, not 100% sure though because I don't know much about them. And just because you find them attractive, doesn't mean they have to be a dual. It could be a supervision relationship (which is also common as a romantic relationship according to socionics). Maybe you're like an SEI and he's LSE. But i'm assuming a lot here tbh.

    The difference between PoLR and suggestive is with the vulnerable function you feel you have to do it but you hate it, whereas the dual seeking function is something you like doing and want to do yourself even if you're not good at doing it with others. Both of them you might be good at doing in your own time or independently, but not with other people.
    I still get a dual vibe from him though. That strange magnetic pull in wanting to get to know him better. Not sure about him being my supervision type, as I don't really find myself walking on eggshells around him.

    My other manager whom I wrote about in my OP is more likely to be my supervision type in socionics. We get along well, and he feels a bit like a kindred spirit at times, someone who is on the same mental wavelength as me, but at the same time, we have some differences in the way we processed information, which results in our miscommunication. Supervision is such a weird relationship.
    On one hand, I tend to feel much emotionally closer to my supervisor as compared to my conflictor. Yet on the other hand, if I get too close to my supervisor, I start finding myself getting burned by them.

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    I think I just saw Te PoLR in myself today.

    My manager recently gave me this key, and I'm supposed to help lock the door whenever I leave the workplace. But I couldn't even lock the door, somehow the key wasn't able to lock the door despite how I've already locked it, and my manager was standing beside me at that time and he got mad at me for taking too long to lock the door, and he ended up taking the key from me and locking the door himself instead.

    I feel so incompetent. I can't seem to do anything right. I can't even do basic tasks such as locking/unlocking the door.
    I feel so dumb and useless.

    At least now I'm 90% sure that I'm Te PoLR, given how I seemed to lack any form of practical skills and how I can't seem to do anything right at work and how I seemed to constantly annoy my manager and my coworkers with my incompetence. :/
    Last edited by Schizoid; 04-05-2019 at 11:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schizoid View Post
    I still get a dual vibe from him though. That strange magnetic pull in wanting to get to know him better. Not sure about him being my supervision type, as I don't really find myself walking on eggshells around him.

    My other manager whom I wrote about in my OP is more likely to be my supervision type in socionics. We get along well, and he feels a bit like a kindred spirit at times, someone who is on the same mental wavelength as me, but at the same time, we have some differences in the way we processed information, which results in our miscommunication. Supervision is such a weird relationship.
    On one hand, I tend to feel much emotionally closer to my supervisor as compared to my conflictor. Yet on the other hand, if I get too close to my supervisor, I start finding myself getting burned by them.
    Oh whoops thought I replied to this quote. I thought these two people were the same person. In that case I was thinking of the one you mentioned in your OP as being a supervisor. The second could be benefactor or acting as a dual. Or maybe the attraction is for a non socionics related reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by Schizoid View Post
    I think I just saw Te PoLR in myself today.

    My manager recently gave me this key, and I'm supposed to help lock the door whenever I leave the workplace. But I couldn't even lock the door, somehow the key wasn't able to lock the door despite how I've already locked it, and my manager was standing beside me at that time and he got mad at me for taking too long to lock the door, and he ended up taking the key from me and locking the door himself instead.

    I feel so incompetent. I can't seem to do anything right. I can't even do basic tasks such as locking/unlocking the door.
    I feel so dumb and useless.

    At least now I'm 90% sure that I'm Te PoLR, given how I seemed to lack any form of practical skills and how I can't seem to do anything right at work and how I seemed to constantly annoy my manager and my coworkers with my incompetence. :/
    That sucks, can't be good at everything though and some of my colleagues are like that (their practical skills and using equipment isn't the best). This sounds like weak Te-Si. You're probably using some other socionics IE therefore you feel inferior compared to everyone who is in Te-Si mode. There is a lack of Si there (or sensing) because you don't mention watching other people to see how they do the task, like watching how he locks the door (Si) to figure out how to do it yourself (Te).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schizoid
    His instructions wasn't clear enough for me, I didn't know what he wanted, hence, I ended up packing it the wrong way.
    You can go digging into all the functional implications of the situation, but I'm a manager and personally I'd just chalk the whole thing up to poor/lazy management. The only way this issue is your "fault" or even neutral is if there was a pre-established method that had already been introduced to you for doing that task and you failed to learn or apply it sufficiently.

    Between this and the key situation it sounds like your manager is impatient and isn't doing a great job of training you. Are there any coworkers you can reach out to who can help you navigate your job better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelfish View Post
    You can go digging into all the functional implications of the situation, but I'm a manager and personally I'd just chalk the whole thing up to poor/lazy management. The only way this issue is your "fault" or even neutral is if there was a pre-established method that had already been introduced to you for doing that task and you failed to learn or apply it sufficiently.

    Between this and the key situation it sounds like your manager is impatient and isn't doing a great job of training you. Are there any coworkers you can reach out to who can help you navigate your job better?
    He can be impatient at times yeah. But he really fits my supervisor type in socionics.
    We can drive each other up the wall at times, he frustrates me at times but I tend to bottle up those frustrated feelings, whereas he will show his frustration a bit more openly by criticizing me. He has high expectations of me and somehow I always seemed to fail his expectations and he will often tell me that I need to buck up and stop making him angry, lol.
    But despite how we drive each other crazy at times, I wouldn't exactly say he's a bad manager. Although he is quite strict and can even be critical at times and often has high expectations of me, but at the same time he has always been quite nice to me and rarely raised his voice at me and he also gives me lots of "downtime" at work and he allows me to play with my phone at work during those "downtime".. When there isn't any work to do, he will just let me do my own stuff, he's quite laidback as a manager, and I quite like this trait about him.
    He is unlike my main boss who will often raise his voice at employees and scold them every day and make them work like a bunch of bumble bees every hour of the day.. If I'm not under him, then I'll end up being under my main boss, and I don't know if I want to be managed by my main boss.

    And I don't know if I have other coworkers who can help nagivate my job better. I used to have a coworker who is quite patient in training me, but she has left here recently after working here for a year. So now I'm left with another coworker of mine, who seems like socionics SEE to me, she's very helpful to me and would help me out most of the time time, but I think there was once or twice when she got impatient with me too due to my crappy Te.


     
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