MBTI always INTJ, now into socionics type is different !!!?

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This is a discussion on MBTI always INTJ, now into socionics type is different !!!? within the Socionics Forum forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; So for some years I have been interested into the personality assessment stuff, when I tested in MBTI I got ...

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    So for some years I have been interested into the personality assessment stuff, when I tested in MBTI I got INTJ 100% of the time, the description of the functions I thought was pretty precise and talked to me.
    I feel it made sense to me and helped me see some of my blind spots.

    But after reading a fascinating discussion on the MBTI side, I discovered YouTube videos from Objective Personality and I wondered between Si/Ni, so I tested socionics several times and strangely I get that :

    100% SLI
    97% LSE
    81% LSI
    71% LII

    So now basically this tells me I'm an ISTP, rather than an INTJ and I can't say the description on sociotype.com, sounds foreign to me, i can also identify to this... so sorry if this is pretty broad but has anyone any insight to give on this ?
    Last edited by Djairouks; 01-13-2020 at 08:32 AM.



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    ILI

    What test did you use? There are different models in socionics, I'm guessing you go by model A?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrei View Post
    What test did you use? There are different models in socionics, I'm guessing you go by model A?
    Used the extended test on this website https://www.sociotype.com/tests/, also the quicker test gives me the exact same results.

    Thanks for replying !

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    ILI

    Quote Originally Posted by Djairouks View Post
    Used the extended test on this website https://www.sociotype.com/tests/, also the quicker test gives me the exact same results.

    Thanks for replying !
    Happy to reply. I got flimsy results with that one. "INFP", "ENTP", not really good. Actually I say that for all tests I took. I typed myself based on my understanding of functions and see where I fit in the model that I made my own :/ Yea, sounds pretty arrogant. But I based it on some of Gulenko's model G, and he has a lot of theories I agree with on Wikisocion's On Waves of Aging and Renewal. I found it very interesting the disruption and restoration dichotomy

    Also, have you seen this INTJ description?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrei View Post
    Happy to reply. I got flimsy results with that one. "INFP", "ENTP", not really good. Actually I say that for all tests I took. I typed myself based on my understanding of functions and see where I fit in the model that I made my own :/ Yea, sounds pretty arrogant. But I based it on some of Gulenko's model G, and he has a lot of theories I agree with on Wikisocion's On Waves of Aging and Renewal. I found it very interesting the disruption and restoration dichotomy

    Also, have you seen this INTJ description?
    I'm affraid I do not really get this description it talks about ILI not LII, did you link the wrong one !?

    Don't worry about the looking arrogant thing, I get that myself a lot too, in my opinion people who call logical Thinkers arrogant are people who know in the back of their mnd, they can't have as sound a reasoning and to kind of preotect their own views of self value, they call other arrogant.
    Just like some logical thinkers not being able to grasp their emotions, label Feelers emotional also as some kind of self protection mechanism not to admit this flaw.
    There's nothing wrong in searching for more information and trying to do things by yourself, instead of relying on the sometimes flawed systems around, this is exactly why I'm asking the question here.

    I tried following several different guides and methods to self type myself, but seems I'm not that great at it, I am always the kind of person, unable to reply when people like in job interviews ask, what's you're qualities, tell us about yourself, what do you see in your future... kind like my mind freezes I don't know !

    But the more I tried to type from the bottom the more it seems I lean towards ISTP, it seems to me that it makes more sense on some details, that I like to dress with style and see a certain beauty in martial arts training, not only functionality but something a form off visual pleasure and reading about INTJ I never could see the links there, or my strong need to express myself through music, or maybe I'm extrapolating too far.
    Last edited by Djairouks; 01-15-2020 at 05:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djairouks View Post
    I'm affraid I do not really get this description it talks about ILI not LII, did you link the wrong one !?
    Oh I thought you were INTJ as in INTp, as in ILI. That's how the translation goes right? I thought INTJ is Ni-dom, while INTP is the Ti-dom.
    Quote Originally Posted by Djairouks View Post
    I am always the kind of person, unable to reply when people like in job interviews ask, what's you're qualities, tell us about yourself, what do you see in your future... kind like my mind freezes I don't know !
    I was thinking more of what functions do you see yourself using

    If you're wondering where I got the ILI image it's from the Socionics Model G facebook page, they got almost every type in detail


    Anyway, if you're not sure of type, you may wanna find out your quadra. It should be simpler.

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    No, the translation doesn‘t work that simple, because MBTI is primarily the dichotomies. But even if you take the functions into consideration, the INTJ is not the INTp because the function definitions of the two systems are pretty different. Socionics Se isn‘t MBTI Se, Socionic Fi isn’t MBTI Fi, etc. The definition of the functions in socionics are very similar to the Jungian original while the MBTI definitions are the result of a combination of the different letters (Ti= I+T+P; Ni= I+N+J...). The most similar type to the INTJ would be LII. Also look at LSI because Se in socionics has a lot in common with MBTI Te.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alyara View Post
    No, the translation doesn‘t work that simple, because MBTI is primarily the dichotomies. But even if you take the functions into consideration, the INTJ is not the INTp because the function definitions of the two systems are pretty different. Socionics Se isn‘t MBTI Se, Socionic Fi isn’t MBTI Fi, etc. The definition of the functions in socionics are very similar to the Jungian original while the MBTI definitions are the result of a combination of the different letters (Ti= I+T+P; Ni= I+N+J...). The most similar type to the INTJ would be LII. Also look at LSI because Se in socionics has a lot in common with MBTI Te.
    Thank you for these precisions, that is indeed why I've shyed away from MBTI, seems there are too many holes which didn't make much sense to me.
    I checked the LII and LSI, they don't "resonate" as much as the SLI to me, basically from what I read on LII the emotional and taking care of one's self do not align with me, as though I don't rely on emotions I can understand and still know when they need to be listened to, I am very much in touch with my body able to foresee when I'll be sick and take self care seriously and I like to do things, apply what I learned not just stay in theory.
    The LSI doesn't align either, reading about the part where they prefer conforming to social rules and do things as they are usually done, I typically always research things to get a good grasp and then I test a way I think best for me, I almost sometimes do not want to do things like everyone else, for the sake of finding a different path, as long as it is efficient of course and not to get in the spotlight either.
    I also never sugar coat anything, I'm pretty much civil in my interactions but I call a cat, a cat and do not care if it get's me approbation or not, I also really need my alone time or to be in nature and dislike loud environment to an extreme, I hate to feel controlled which seem to be more of a SLI thing.

    But really what hit me lately, is reading about famous people or fictional characters, then wondering their types for curiosity and basically the movie/literature characters or famous people that say or do things that resonate the most with me, seemed to be overwhelmingly ISTPs, like Clint Eastwood who's movies I always find very finely crafted and down to earth, Bruce Lee which always was one of my heroes and now it seems all my favorite GOT characters lean towards ISTP as well.

    So maybe it has no link who knows, but I found this pretty funny to realise this !
    Last edited by Djairouks; 01-16-2020 at 12:24 AM.

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    MBTI always INTJ, now into socionics type is different !!!?




    Oh, I see what you did there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HIX View Post
    MBTI always INTJ, now into socionics type is different !!!?




    Oh, I see what you did there.
    That's all you have to say, maybe read the first post and actually bring some substance instead of, some imagined stuff I have no clue about !
    counterintuitive thanked this post.


     
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