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This is a discussion on How does your PoLR manifest? within the Socionics Forum forums, part of the Personality Type Forums category; So I am fairly new to socionics, and I have seen "PoLR" (Point of Least Resistance) often being thrown around ...

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    How does your PoLR manifest?

    So I am fairly new to socionics, and I have seen "PoLR" (Point of Least Resistance) often being thrown around the forum, and although I have read about it, I would like to see personal examples from others as to how they experience it. It's an interesting topic.

    Here's a link on it:

    Socionics - the16types.info - The Hidden Agenda and Point of Least Resistance (PoLR)
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    Being restless. Never being able to find comfort or settle down. Si knows how to make itself comfortable. How to chill. It is always telling me to relax. I can't fuckin relax. They want like comfortable states with no turmoil. I want to disturb things. Si makes people comfortable. I make them uncomfortable. Si wants to maintain tranquil environments. I want to destroy them.

    Like even my ESTJ buddy. Always wants to get people to hang out. Let's hang out. "Hanging out" is fuckin Si. Let's have a beer. Stop over. Watch the game. lol. Si.
    Last edited by FearAndTrembling; 09-06-2016 at 06:12 PM.

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    So (as I've mentioned in other places before) I'm double majoring- psychology and business data analytics. Bunch of class diversity going on (from chemistry to sociology, finance to experimental stats). And it has been my database management class which gave me the most amount of trouble (along with a few other data analytic topics). I think this frustration and sense of inferiority tied back to Te PoLR.

    Essentially, the skills this database management class required of us was to understand the purpose of a company, and to organize an efficient database (flexible for future modification, etc). I really struggle with looking at data in this kind of way and have never had the ability or creativity to visualize and create systems (be it data systems, management structure, etc) like that. Even for the hospital I volunteer in, I was recently put on this new project to help one of the doctors, who currently trying to reorganize how he stores and inputs data into excel (changing around the survey and structure, thinking of maybe moving it over to access). I am secretly so uncomfortable with being a part of this project. I don't really have an idea of how to make it more efficient (and because of that, I'm also kind of frustrated because I feel like it's fine as is, why bother changing it? How the hell do people get a rise out of this kind of stuff) so I honestly want out of the whole project but feel really bad because the guy is funny and needs help (since he doesn't really know what he's doing either). Math itself has never given me problems (messing around and looking for correlations with SPSS was a breeze, calculus, etc) but working with the actual structure? Having an eye for rearranging data in a more efficient way? Fakk datt. There is literally nothing that makes me feel more uncomfortable and uncreative.

    I can't wait to get my school psych degree so I can relive student teen angst, complain about school regulations with the teachers and meet up with asshole parents but love every minute of it as I never have to think about databases structures again.

    ^ So probably Te PoLR pour moi.
    Last edited by O_o; 09-06-2016 at 09:04 PM.

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    I dunno, Fi PoLR manifests in how I interact in relationships. For me, I pretty much see everyone as being a friend. I'm not actually very... Discerning.

    In that way, I'm also not very good at seeing how things are 'progressing' on a more intimate level, and whether or not people are actually repelled or attracted by my behaviour. I'm also not very good at taking conversations about possibly very serious relationship inquiries very seriously... If things start getting 'intense', or 'heavy', I start getting extremely uncomfortable, uncertain, and have no idea how to proceed, so I might jest in order to lighten the mood, and rely on my mobilizing function to get things off of ... That topic.

    In a way, when it comes to this area, I'm completely blind. So I might try to compensate by checking in frequently with the individual. For the right person, that's absolutely fine. Most people are annoyed by it, because it's something which maybe should be obvious to me, but isn't.

    Also, I don't really tend to 'dislike' anything.

    So, yeah. Ta da!

    And that's my experience with my PoLR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Word Dispenser View Post
    I dunno, Fi PoLR manifests in how I interact in relationships. For me, I pretty much see everyone as being a friend. I'm not actually very... Discerning.

    In that way, I'm also not very good at seeing how things are 'progressing' on a more intimate level, and whether or not people are actually repelled or attracted by my behaviour. I'm also not very good at taking conversations about possibly very serious relationship inquiries very seriously... If things start getting 'intense', or 'heavy', I start getting extremely uncomfortable, uncertain, and have no idea how to proceed, so I might jest in order to lighten the mood, and rely on my mobilizing function to get things off of ... That topic.

    In a way, when it comes to this area, I'm completely blind. So I might try to compensate by checking in frequently with the individual. For the right person, that's absolutely fine. Most people are annoyed by it, because it's something which maybe should be obvious to me, but isn't.

    Also, I don't really tend to 'dislike' anything.

    So, yeah. Ta da!

    And that's my experience with my PoLR.
    I always remember you saying that Si was the zen function. I think you're right. And I got something to say about it:



    We're so bored, you're to blame

    Try to see it once my way

    Everything zen, everything zen
    I don't think so
    Everything zen, everything zen
    I don't think so

    There's no sex in your violence
    There's no sex in your violence
    There's no sex in your violence
    There's no sex in your violence

    Zen, zen
    I don't think so
    I don't think so
    I don't think so

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    Honestly, my PoLR doesn't really seem to be a problem for me in how it manifests. I suppose the best way to describe Ti-PoLR is that I'd be dreading a job or task where I had to use formal logic to construct an argument for or against a certain position. I'd be much more comfortable using empirical evidence or facts to support or refute a certain position.

    As a hypothetical example; I suppose the most tangible way in which I would take a large Ti-PoLR hit would be if I were in charge of a budget then without grounds, told to slash the budget by xx% by either firing a few people or reducing everyone's salary. Then when I go to check the department's performance the department would still be profitable without anyone's budget being slashed. That would bring about a hardcore rebellion against Ti from me. Other than that and having to use math or logic as a language I don't think I really have as vulnerable a Ti-PoLR as would be expected. Weird. *shrug*

    I suppose I'm just lucky that I've had exposure to Ti my entire life so maybe I've grown a sort of compliance with it. Just don't expect me to ever be logical robot #1756 though.
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    I'm really new to Socionics, so this may be wrong, but if I'm Te PoLR, I see that basically in how I am really impractical, and I can't stand all the bureaucratic nonsense needed to make it in this world. Things like, filling out resumes/job applications, standardized testing, school applications, etc. All this procedural stuff is necessary but feels so tiresome, and keeps me from pursuing what I really want to do. The dream looms large while I'm stuck here filling out paperwork. It just kills any motivation I have, which is already fickle at best. Maybe it's an IEI thing, or it's just me.

    Another thing I've seen in myself is if someone makes an argument quoting experts, and relies on the "fact" of their expertise to carry the argument, I still believe what I believe based on what I know and my own understanding of things. It makes me more intellectually rebellious and stubborn towards those I should perhaps show deference to, like professors/educators. I think James Joyce sums it up in Ulysses through Stephen Dedalus:

    -- You behold in me, Stephen said with grim displeasure, a horrible example of free thought.
    Last edited by mistakenforstranger; 09-10-2016 at 12:17 AM.

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    Oh, hey, its you. Hey, if it means anything, I decided a long time ago I think you are the IEI kind of INFJ rather than the EII. Te PoLR makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenix Wulfheart View Post
    Oh, hey, its you. Hey, if it means anything, I decided a long time ago I think you are the IEI kind of INFJ rather than the EII. Te PoLR makes sense.
    umm who were you speaking to?

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    The most recent poster, hence the lack of quoting or what have you. :)
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