Were any of you in gifted classes in school? Did you do well in school?

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This is a discussion on Were any of you in gifted classes in school? Did you do well in school? within the SP's Temperament Forum- The Creators forums, part of the Keirsey Temperament Forums category; I was. Since elementary school. I just saw a thread in one of the NT sections about whether or not ...

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    Were any of you in gifted classes in school? Did you do well in school?

    I was. Since elementary school. I just saw a thread in one of the NT sections about whether or not they feel "gifted" or "cursed" because of their "abilities" and I'm a little sick of NTs thinking they have some kind of monopoly on "giftedness". I know that being labeled gifted in school really doesn't mean that much in reality but I'm just sick of the whole NT = genius thing.
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    INTJ - The Scientists


    Quote Originally Posted by ItsAlwaysSunny View Post
    I'm just sick of the whole NT = genius thing.
    So are a lot of NTs.

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    ISTP - The Mechanics

    Quote Originally Posted by ItsAlwaysSunny View Post
    I was. Since elementary school. I just saw a thread in one of the NT sections about whether or not they feel "gifted" or "cursed" because of their "abilities" and I'm a little sick of NTs thinking they have some kind of monopoly on "giftedness". I know that being labeled gifted in school really doesn't mean that much in reality but I'm just sick of the whole NT = genius thing.
    I'm sure a lot of NF's are, too, especially ENFP's who have a hard time being taken seriously around here.

    There were no gifted classes in elementary school or middle school, and for high school, I have all honors classes in the morning and go to a competitive-entry research school in the afternoon. NTP classmates are REALLY common in my afternoon block, but that's partially because everything there revolves around computers, hard science, experimental design, and math.
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    INFP - The Idealists

    I was fab at lunchtime

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    yeah, like i said being officially labeled gifted in school doesnt mean all that much but SPs in general are stereotyped for being stupid, bad students, or lacking insight in general and i've just never had that problem. if anything (not that it matters) i've always been considered "the smart one".

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    The whole 'gifted classes' ordeal isn't very fashionable in my country, where there is so much focus on equality and class-less society. I'm not sure what to think of the whole concept myself. I know plenty of people who were bored as hell in school, and never learned that working takes effort, because the curriculum is far too easy for them. It sucks. It sucks to sit there and do tasks that aren't intellectually challenging, it feels like a Sisyphus task. When you can finish something in ten minutes that everyone else takes hours to do, then school becomes a gruelingly boring place, where the library is the only refuge. Many of my friends wish they had the opportunity to join a gifted class.
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    INTJ - The Scientists


    Quote Originally Posted by dalsgaard View Post
    The whole 'gifted classes' ordeal isn't very fashionable in my country, where there is so much focus on equality and class-less society. I'm not sure what to think of the whole concept myself. I know plenty of people who were bored as hell in school, and never learned that working takes effort, because the curriculum is far too easy for them. It sucks. It sucks to sit there and do tasks that aren't intellectually challenging, it feels like a Sisyphus task. When you can finish something in ten minutes that everyone else takes hours to do, then school becomes a gruelingly boring place, where the library is the only refuge. Many of my friends wish they had the opportunity to join a gifted class.
    I liked the gifted program. It was the first time I actually had friends instead of just being the lame weirdo nerd who was so square she actually did her homework, but who was hard to bully since she just kicked you in the shins.
    Like I think a lot of NTs, being smart was one of the few positive qualities granted to me in the estimation of others, although they tried to turn it into a negative one.

    There were some fellow NTs, granted, more than I was used to, but anyone who was in gifted knows there were a good range of other types.

    The "genius" thing - sometimes it's defensiveness since it is one of the few "good" qualities given to NTs, a lot of the time it is joking about the stereotype, a lot of it is feeling isolated because of seeing the world differently and if you are constantly called a "nerd," well, there's a potential reason and it's better than "sociopath," a bunch is d-bag n00bs with little understanding of mbti who want to be special...NTs as a whole though aren't inclined to be any more arrogant about other types. Just if we are arrogant, which is far less often than other types think, it is most often about logic/thinking/intelligence, just like unhealthy NFs can be sanctimonious pricks who think everyone is morally inferior & c. I would think most types have something they jack off to, tbh. But I get you - it pisses me off when NFs act like they have a monopoly on humanity, and Ts are inhuman robots&c. Such a limited view of mbti categories is nothing but sad, regardless of whom is being insulted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalsgaard View Post
    The whole 'gifted classes' ordeal isn't very fashionable in my country, where there is so much focus on equality and class-less society. I'm not sure what to think of the whole concept myself. I know plenty of people who were bored as hell in school, and never learned that working takes effort, because the curriculum is far too easy for them. It sucks. It sucks to sit there and do tasks that aren't intellectually challenging, it feels like a Sisyphus task. When you can finish something in ten minutes that everyone else takes hours to do, then school becomes a gruelingly boring place, where the library is the only refuge. Many of my friends wish they had the opportunity to join a gifted class.
    i wholeheartedly agree that it does suck to not be challenged in school. when i changed middle schools they accidently put me in the "regular" classes and i remember feeling so out of place that i went up and told the teacher that im supposed to be in gifted classes. she didn't believe me at first but eventually the school switched me over to the gifted classes and i felt much more at home. im very lucky that those classes were available where i went to school and i know that everyone isn't as lucky.

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    INTJ - The Scientists

    Quote Originally Posted by ItsAlwaysSunny View Post
    i wholeheartedly agree that it does suck to not be challenged in school. when i changed middle schools they accidently put me in the "regular" classes and i remember feeling so out of place that i went up and told the teacher that im supposed to be in gifted classes. she didn't believe me at first but eventually the school switched me over to the gifted classes and i felt much more at home. im very lucky that those classes were available where i went to school and i know that everyone isn't as lucky.
    I wish that was me. My first 9 years of school was the most unproductive, boring, brainless, banal and berated period in my life. Bullying, teachers who thought I was just an asshole, classmates that didn't understand me at all... It was all wasted. If someone had cared enough to provide more challenging experiences, then I wouldn't have had to wait this long before I was able to shine. There are so many things I could have learned, but I had no opportunity to flourish. My brother had it even worse, he was encapsulated in a bubble of hilarity. He never took anything seriously. He thought all life was a joke, because everything was too banal. To this day, he still has no friends because so few can relate to the guy. But that's life. The idea that some people are bred into an upper-class lifestyle doesn't bode well with people here. And to be honest, I'm not sure I like it either. But it's a fact that some do better than others, and it's a waste of resources when that fact is ignored. Luckily, people can take matters into their own hands once they are done with school....
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    ISFP - The Artists

    I was in the "gifted" program during elementary school, but it was pretty lame. Most of time we had meetings, we just sat around doing logic puzzles in which I was usually one of the last to finish. One time we also made our own dodecahedrons out of straws.

    After elementary/middle school, I was basically above average but nothing exceptional. I think my main academic strength is writing papers, even in college, this was my first semester to get below a 90 on one. Languages are also my thing, probably because I force my friends to practice them with me outside of class and do my own research in addition to what we learn in class. Interestingly, I never really understand the grammar enough to explain it, but I can always tell what "sounds right". This has been the case in the several languages I've studied.


     
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