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I'm a bit confused lately but I think I'm actually more 9 than 1 and not sure about anything else.

What age range are you in? 16-17

Any disorders or conditions we should know about? Only that I'm totally awesome but also super tired.

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1. What do you think your life is about? What drives you in life? This can be something like a goal or a purpose, or anything else that comes to mind.
I believe you should be a good person and act kindly to people, because they would return they same treatment to you and everyone would love each other! :D People can be so selfish and it's driving me mad. Life is about giving and having fun, finding what makes you happy and doing just that. Freedom, happiness, you name it.

2. What were you like as a kid?
RESPONSIBLE. Quiet, people pleasing, hated conflicts. A bit antisocial, to be honest. I liked staying at home. I was like this "eldest kid" stereotype. As I grew up I became warmer, happier, less repressed and more "let go". Though in the same time I'm uptight as hell lol.

3. Describe your relationship with your parents. Does anything stand out about the way you interacted?
  • Mother- my mom is an ESxJ, (maybe maybe maybe ENFJ) 6w7. She is ANXIOUS AS HELL, very worrying, and very temperamental. Sometimes I'm walking on eggshells and doing what I'm told because I don't want to upset her or anything. she can be critical of me when she's angry but I don't mind it because I know she's saying things out of anger (not too long ago she apologized for doing so). However, we're very close- I'm my mom's best friend and I often act as her "therapist" and I advice her and I tell her I love her everyday and we're just super close haha.
  • Father- ISTP (maybe ISFP), I think he's a 9w8. We're very different, but I love him. He likes to make stupid jokes that annoy me but I end up making the same jokes as he. He doesn't ever tell me he loves me or is very affectionate, but I know he loves me more than anything so I don't mind. He's very understanding and contrasts my feisty mother. Sometimes he's kinda irresponsible and unkind to others that aren't me which annoys me, but I love him <3

4. What values are important to you? What do you hope to avoid doing or being?
Values that are important to me- be polite, helpful, kind and nice to others. Come on, don't be an ass. I think motivation is important as well, you need to have something that inspires you, humans should be goal driven. I avoid being lonely, antisocial, rude, unkind and alone. I want to avoid being unhappy. Oddly enough, when I'm unhappy I want to be alone and act rude and unkind.

5. Aside from phobias, are there any fears that characterized your childhood? Have they continued into the present day, or not, and if not, how have you dealt with them?
Losing my loved ones. I remember my parents and sister going out of countries and I imagined the plane crashing down and I just sobbed for hours. I also remember when me and my mom traveled in Rome about a year ago and she got really sick and I was afraid she's gonna die and I started worrying about how my father will react and how he will totally fall apart and I will have to take care of my poor sisters etc. The thing is I lived a very sheltered life and I'm afraid when suffering will come I will have no idea how to deal with it. My life is so goddamn perfect and I'm just afraid something will go and spoil it.

6. a.) How do you see yourself?
b.) How do you want others to see you?
c.) What do you dislike the most in other people?

a) Warm, helpful, ambitious, soft hearted, a little serious, assertive and not assertive at the same time, manipulative, self confident, responsible, super uptight. Mhm.
b) I want others to see me as this super kind helpful girl they can rely and depend on. I remember mentioning this before but what the heck- when there was a big exam I brought many candies from my house and gave them to the students to make them feel at ease, both for their sake and for people to talk about me for being nice xD A bit hypocritical, but still :D
c) Rudeness, disrespectful to others, being lazy and irresponsible hmm. When people are fake?

7. Which habit do you most automatically act on? Rank the following habits from most to least automatic, on a scale of 1 (most) to 3 (least).
a.) Work for personal gain with more concern for self than for others.
b.) Strive for a sense of tranquility in yourself and the world around you
c.) Decide what is right for the betterment of something or someone else.

Maybe b>c>a?

8. Where does the wandering mind take you? What provokes this?
Depends. I can make up stories about fictional people in my head, sometimes I think about the future, sometimes it's random plots and sometimes it's 100+ ways of things going terribly wrong. I think stress and boredom provokes this.

9.What makes you feel your best? What makes you feel your worst?
Compliment me, let me help you, let me be recognized for being myself. At worst- don't criticize me, try to control me and treat me like shit.

10. Let's talk about emotions. Explain what might make you feel the following, how they feel to you or how you react to the emotion:
a.) anger
b.) shame
c.) anxiety

a) I don't like getting angry, so I don't do it often. I didn't notice it until my friends pointed out to me, but when I am angry, hell break loose: I become heavily emotionally manipulative and plays the victim, "Oh you don't appreciate me well fuck you". And I get revenge. Big time. DO NOT MESS WITH ME.
b) SELF GUILT. Something bad happened and it's all my fault! I have no one else to blame. Just leave me alone here to dieeee!! I withdraw a little and talk with people and they rationalize the situation so it's all better but I feel like a failure.
c) I either freak out or just say "screw it". Mostly freak out though. This is where my mind tells me how things can go wrong.

11. Describe how you respond to the following:
a.) stress
b.) negative unexpected change
c.) conflict

a) I become withdrawn and try to focus on the things need to be done to solve all this stress. And I freak out.
b) I try to look at the positive aspect of it. There has got to be one, right?
c) I meditate. Boo to conflict.

12. a.) What kind of role are you naturally inclined to take in a group? Why?
b.) If put in power, how do you behave? Why?
c.) Do you tend to struggle with others who have authority over you? Why?

a) mother-hen, to the extreme. I'm the helpful, responsible adult. I care a lot and I advise people all the time. People depend on me and I like it.
b) i'm fair, I think I avoid hurting other and making hard decisions lol. I'm the boss and I make sure everything is done, and end up taking more work on myself.
c) People with authority loves me because I'm a goody two shoes and generally kind and sweet :D I don't mind it,r really. Unless authority is disrespectful to me, in which I say "fuck you".

13. What do you see or notice in others that most people don't?
I'm too tired to think at this point. I notice when they're unhappy.

14. Comment on your relationship with trust.
I'm a truster, but not to the extreme. I have a healthy relationship with trust.

15. Briefly: What religious and/or political beliefs do you have? Do you think they influenced your responses in this questionnaire?
Jewish, slightly socialist, feminist, I don't think anything has affected my answers.
 

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I got some combination of 7w6/6w7, 1 and 3w2. the overall tone came off very 6w7/7w6 (almost like a 6w7/7w6's impression of 3w2), but the strong themes of responsibility strike me as less 7-ish. I could see Sexual 3w2 (the most 7-ish 3) with 1 and 7 fixes (or a 6w7 fix)
 

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I got some combination of 7w6/6w7, 1 and 3w2. the overall tone came off very 6w7/7w6 (almost like a 6w7/7w6's impression of 3w2), but the strong themes of responsibility strike me as less 7-ish. I could see Sexual 3w2 (the most 7-ish 3) with 1 and 7 fixes (or a 6w7 fix)
Interesting! Could you please elaborate? :D
 

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Since you tagged me, I see a lot of 1w9 and 6w7.
Definitely SFJ in MBTI although your overall calm, serious and placid nature makes me think ISFJ.

I can definitely see a strong 3-fix ("my life is perfect" "hypocrisy") like SoM suggested but not as your core.
Even the most self-aware type 3 wouldn't be so open to the risk of tainting their image.

Your strong focus on responsibility, doing the right thing, offering help and being people's rock is more indicative of type 1. There's a strong 6-ish element but that's heightened by your SJ tendencies.

Your main focus is values and morality but I could still take 6w7 as core.

ISFJ 1w9 6w7 3w2 so/sx.
 

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Since you tagged me, I see a lot of 1w9 and 6w7.
Definitely SFJ in MBTI although your overall calm, serious and placid nature makes me think ISFJ.

I can definitely see a strong 3-fix ("my life is perfect" "hypocrisy") like SoM suggested but not as your core.
Even the most self-aware type 3 wouldn't be so open to the risk of tainting their image.

Your strong focus on responsibility, doing the right thing, offering help and being people's rock is more indicative of type 1. There's a strong 6-ish element but that's heightened by your SJ tendencies.

Your main focus is values and morality but I could still take 6w7 as core.

ISFJ 1w9 6w7 3w2 so/sx.
Thank you so much! Very interesting. I think 163 makes sense to me.
Question- why ISFJ over ESFJ? :D
 

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Thank you so much! Very interesting. I think 163 makes sense to me.
Question- why ISFJ over ESFJ? :D
Fe-dominants tend to be a lot more reactive to the emotions of others and social clues, to the point that they're often the ones swaying the atmosphere in a conversation or a room. ISFJs are more inclined to mirror what's already there and step back if it gets uncomfortable, strong Si-users in general tend to only contribute when they're familiar with a subject.

Ne creates, Se is immediate conclusions, Ni sees blanks to fill.
Si wants to be sure that they know what they're talking about and how it'll be received.
Si-doms can be very cautious when stepping in a discussion, even more so SiFe.
 

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Fe-dominants tend to be a lot more reactive to the emotions of others and social clues, to the point that they're often the ones swaying the atmosphere in a conversation or a room. ISFJs are more inclined to mirror what's already there and step back if it gets uncomfortable, strong Si-users in general tend to only contribute when they're familiar with a subject.

Ne creates, Se is immediate conclusions, Ni sees blanks to fill.
Si wants to be sure that they know what they're talking about and how it'll be received.
Si-doms can be very cautious when stepping in a discussion, even more so SiFe.
You've given me a lot to think about, thank you!
 

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@Living dead @Oswin @Inver @Swordsman of Mana @alittlebear @ more people who can help me?

I'm a bit confused lately but I think I'm actually more 9 than 1 and not sure about anything else.

What age range are you in? 16-17

Any disorders or conditions we should know about? Only that I'm totally awesome but also super tired.

Main Questions

1. What do you think your life is about? What drives you in life? This can be something like a goal or a purpose, or anything else that comes to mind.
I believe you should be a good person and act kindly to people, because they would return they same treatment to you and everyone would love each other! :D People can be so selfish and it's driving me mad. Life is about giving and having fun, finding what makes you happy and doing just that. Freedom, happiness, you name it.
Superego


2. What were you like as a kid?
RESPONSIBLE. Quiet, people pleasing, hated conflicts. A bit antisocial, to be honest. I liked staying at home. I was like this "eldest kid" stereotype. As I grew up I became warmer, happier, less repressed and more "let go". Though in the same time I'm uptight as hell lol.
More superego





4. What values are important to you? What do you hope to avoid doing or being?
Values that are important to me- be polite, helpful, kind and nice to others. Come on, don't be an ass. I think motivation is important as well, you need to have something that inspires you, humans should be goal driven. I avoid being lonely, antisocial, rude, unkind and alone. I want to avoid being unhappy. Oddly enough, when I'm unhappy I want to be alone and act rude and unkind.
I see 2w1.

5. Aside from phobias, are there any fears that characterized your childhood? Have they continued into the present day, or not, and if not, how have you dealt with them?
Losing my loved ones. I remember my parents and sister going out of countries and I imagined the plane crashing down and I just sobbed for hours. I also remember when me and my mom traveled in Rome about a year ago and she got really sick and I was afraid she's gonna die and I started worrying about how my father will react and how he will totally fall apart and I will have to take care of my poor sisters etc. The thing is I lived a very sheltered life and I'm afraid when suffering will come I will have no idea how to deal with it. My life is so goddamn perfect and I'm just afraid something will go and spoil it.
Here you acting like a phobic 6.

6. a.) How do you see yourself?
b.) How do you want others to see you?
c.) What do you dislike the most in other people?

a) Warm, helpful, ambitious, soft hearted, a little serious, assertive and not assertive at the same time, manipulative, self confident, responsible, super uptight. Mhm.
b) I want others to see me as this super kind helpful girl they can rely and depend on. I remember mentioning this before but what the heck- when there was a big exam I brought many candies from my house and gave them to the students to make them feel at ease, both for their sake and for people to talk about me for being nice xD A bit hypocritical, but still :D
c) Rudeness, disrespectful to others, being lazy and irresponsible hmm. When people are fake?

7. Which habit do you most automatically act on? Rank the following habits from most to least automatic, on a scale of 1 (most) to 3 (least).
a.) Work for personal gain with more concern for self than for others.
b.) Strive for a sense of tranquility in yourself and the world around you
c.) Decide what is right for the betterment of something or someone else.

Maybe b>c>a?

8. Where does the wandering mind take you? What provokes this?
Depends. I can make up stories about fictional people in my head, sometimes I think about the future, sometimes it's random plots and sometimes it's 100+ ways of things going terribly wrong. I think stress and boredom provokes this.

9.What makes you feel your best? What makes you feel your worst?
Compliment me, let me help you, let me be recognized for being myself. At worst- don't criticize me, try to control me and treat me like shit.
2 once again :D


10. Let's talk about emotions. Explain what might make you feel the following, how they feel to you or how you react to the emotion:
a.) anger
b.) shame
c.) anxiety

a) I don't like getting angry, so I don't do it often. I didn't notice it until my friends pointed out to me, but when I am angry, hell break loose: I become heavily emotionally manipulative and plays the victim, "Oh you don't appreciate me well fuck you". And I get revenge. Big time. DO NOT MESS WITH ME.
b) SELF GUILT. Something bad happened and it's all my fault! I have no one else to blame. Just leave me alone here to dieeee!! I withdraw a little and talk with people and they rationalize the situation so it's all better but I feel like a failure.
c) I either freak out or just say "screw it". Mostly freak out though. This is where my mind tells me how things can go wrong.
Superego here

11. Describe how you respond to the following:
a.) stress
b.) negative unexpected change
c.) conflict

a) I become withdrawn and try to focus on the things need to be done to solve all this stress. And I freak out.
b) I try to look at the positive aspect of it. There has got to be one, right?
c) I meditate. Boo to conflict.
I knew there was some positive outlook here ehehee

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So in conclusion I think you are a 2w1. More focused on morals and doing what's right, than the 2w3 who wants everybody to appreciate them. As for tritype: 2w1-6w7-1w9.
 

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I agree with @Mandraque's assessment of 261. SO2 is the ambitious, dutiful 3ish-2.

At first I was drawn towards a 7-fix because of "Life is about giving and having fun, finding what makes you happy and doing just that. Freedom, happiness.", but this seems more of an adolescence-SX-period thing.

You have a strong 1-fix like the others suggested which is also supported by your moralistic ('shoulds/should nots') style of writing. Your emphasis and fear of losing your 'loved ones' is particularly 2ish. The 126 is one of the tritypes which is the most uptight and rigid (triple superego) as well as the most dutiful, faithful, supportive. I found the entry of your childhood was pretty important.

I think typing someone around adolescence is trickier than someone around their 20s. Exploding hormones and existential depression at this point creates drastic changes for anyone haha
 
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