[monique]

My own understanding is gradually improving but i still don't feel confident that i have grasped it totally. I was thinking today and out of that thinking came a thought and that thought was how about an apple? An apparently simple object but with many facets. How would Se/Si/Ne/Ni perceive the apple? What about Te/Ti/Fe/Fi?

 

[Everyday Ghoul]

Se = taste, smell, feel of the apple - "This apple is such a bright red. It smells absolutely incredible! It's so juicy and ripe!"
Si = rotted spots or other abnormalities, that aren't a part of the "standard" apple - "There sure are a lot of spots on this apple. It has quite a few 'soft spots', as well."
Ne = "This apple would make a neat little 3D character, if I drew a face on him."
Ni = (probably really reaching here) "Apples are red. Red is associated with lust, passion, etc. They used an apple in Sleeping Beauty. Perhaps the associations with the color red, were intended to make the 'poisoned apple' symbolic of the 'death of innocence' in the story, as Sleeping Beauty was a symbolic representation of our standard ideals of innocence and purity."
Te = "Rinse the apple. Eat the apple. Throw away the core."
Ti = (reaching again) "There's a spot on this apple. Why? Plant disease? The effects of being exposed to air?"
Fe = "My friend John loves Apples. I'll take it and bring it to him."
Fi = (reaching) "I don't really like apples. I could have a bite, but I'd much rather have a pear. I'll just leave it here for someone else, who does like apples. I wouldn't want to waste it."

 

[scarygirl]

Se = taste, smell, feel of the apple - "This apple is such a bright red. It smells absolutely incredible! It's so juicy and ripe!"
Si = rotted spots or other abnormalities, that aren't a part of the "standard" apple - "There sure are a lot of spots on this apple. It has quite a few 'soft spots', as well."
Ne = "This apple would make a neat little 3D character, if I drew a face on him."
Ni = (probably really reaching here) "Apples are red. Red is associated with lust, passion, etc. They used an apple in Sleeping Beauty. Perhaps the associations with the color red, were intended to make the 'poisoned apple' symbolic of the 'death of innocence' in the story, as Sleeping Beauty was a symbolic representation of our standard ideals of innocence and purity."
Te = "Rinse the apple. Eat the apple. Throw away the core."
Ti = (reaching again) "There's a spot on this apple. Why? Plant disease? The effects of being exposed to air?"
Fe = "My friend John loves Apples. I'll take it and bring it to him."
Fi = (reaching) "I don't really like apples. I could have a bite, but I'd much rather have a pear. I'll just leave it here for someone else, who does like apples. I wouldn't want to waste it."

I'm Se, Ni quite much at times, Ne, Ti, and Fi.
I'm everything but Si xD.
And I suppise I'm Te when it comes to get what I want and can't stop and think about anything.
Like fighting my family, for example

 

[ENTrePenuer]

Go outside.
Find the different types and ask why they do the things they do.

You'll never truly understand it from a purely intellectual perspective. If you really want to understand it deal with unbalanced types for a while.

You'll never get it until you do this.

and I do mean never.

 

[nessawildcard]

Yes you're right in this.

 

[KraChZiMan]

My own understanding is gradually improving but i still don't feel confident that i have grasped it totally. I was thinking today and out of that thinking came a thought and that thought was how about an apple? An apparently simple object but with many facets. How would Se/Si/Ne/Ni perceive the apple? What about Te/Ti/Fe/Fi?

99% of people physically perceive the world in a same way. Every person who is not colourblind, blind, schizophrenic or hallutinating sees an apple as apple is. Difference is in what thoughts are evoked by apple, or relating to apples. How they respond to an offering of apple.

Apple example is very simplified way of demonstrating the way cognitive functions work, but I try to summarize something, according to socionics theory:


Se - Examining the apple itself to determine it's external physical properties, tries to determine if the particular apple looks appealing in itself.

Affirmative example: "This apple looks nice. C'mon let me take a bite, don't be jealous!"
Negative example: "Yuck, looks like something's gone bad. Lemme throw that in the bin for ya!"


Si - First considers it's own personal preference for apple.

Affirmative example: "Apples in general are a really nice and tasty fruits. Thanks, I'd love to!"
Negative example: "No thanks, I don't like apples, they taste like water."


Ne - Goes by very first hunch, does the eating of apple seem lucrative or appealing in a current moment?

Affirmative example: "I was quite hungry anyway, I could use a little fruit. Thanks!"
Negative example: "Oh not right now, eating something would distract me too much from my work."


Ni - First considers if eating the apple would fit the personal schedule or would be purposeful.

Affirmative example: "I had a meal some hours ago, it's gonna take some time before next meal, so yeah, why not!"
Negative example: "I'm goin out for a lunch anyway, come with me, let's get something more decent than an apple!"


Te - Considers if it is a good time and a place to eat apple.

Affirmative example: "If you don't mind, I'd bring the apple to home and use it to make an apple smoothie. Thanks!"
Negative example: "Do you seriously want me to eat an apple in this 5000 dollar suit? No thanks!"


Ti - Tries to find out what kind of apple is this, and makes the choice based on that.

Affirmative example: "You bought this from the market? Those apples at the market are really fresh this time of the year, I can't refuse such a decent apple. Thanks!"
Negative example: "You bought this from the WalMart? It could be full of poisons and stuff. No thanks!"


Fe - Makes sure that the gesture is a sincere one. Then decides if it would be appropriate to accept such a gesture.

Affirmative example: "Are you sure you don't want this? Oh, but indeed, that's really kind of you, thanks!"
Negative example: "You look rather hungry yourself, why don't you keep that apple for now. Who knows, maybe you'll be hungry later on!"


Fi - Considers who the offer is coming from, and how the offer is being delivered.

Affirmative example: "Oh, really nice! I'd like to take that apple from you. Thanks!"
Negative example: "You don't really have to give me that apple, I'm fine without it. Thanks!"