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I filled out a typing questionnaire on Reddit and got a result that feels like it could fit, but I wanted to get additional opinions just to be sure.


1: What makes you respect individuals, groups, or organizations? List whatever you can think of.
Intelligence, depth, ability, kindness, compassion, dependability, integrity, vision, imagination, authenticity

2: What kind of things turn you off about a person, a brand/company, or a particular environment? What gets under your skin (in a bad way)?
For entities: judgemental, controlling, shallow/fake, unreliable, incompetent, cruel/selfish, refusal to acknowledge fault/error/mistreatment and rectify. For environments: loud/high-pitched noises, too hot.

3: How good is your memory for detail? Specific conversations you've had in the past, little tasks that need to get done, what you were doing the first time you heard a song or tried a food, etc.
Not so good for tasks and such: I’m always forgetting little things I need to do and contemplating/daydreaming instead. I remember the overarching themes and points of conversations, but not necessarily specific wording and such. I have very strong memory for visual details, bordering on photographic in some cases, and also great memory for facts and concepts: I’ve never had to study very hard to do well in school, and have been given the epithet “The All-Knowing” from some of my friends.

4: What do you spend the most time thinking about - the past, the present, the future? Practical topics, logistical issues, relationships with people, theoretical concepts, issues of morality/ethics? Do you find yourself fixating on one thing, coming back to it, and trying to figure it out, or are you more prone to meandering through multiple tangentially related topics? Do you often daydream/space out? When you do daydream or fantasize, what kind of things do you imagine and think about?
All three. All of those and more, but usually the less concrete ones like theories, relationships and morality. The latter until I come to something interesting, then the former until I’ve analyzed it as much as I can from as many angles as possible and (if a problem) solved it, sometimes obsessing for months if a deep enough topic. It’s like a predator searching for prey, and then incessantly stalking and chasing down its target until it’s caught. I daydream and space out with extreme frequency, mostly about theories and abstractions, scenarios and conversations (real or hypothetical), future plans and aspirations, experiences and relationships (past actual and potential, future planned or potential), trying to figure something out/solve a problem, philosophical musings, and self reflection/”who am I?” which can sometimes spiral into depression and existential thoughts. Not clinical depression, just the temporary mood kind.

5: Think about a topic or two you're really interested in and like having conversations about. Do you think you would generally have more fun talking about that topic with an enthusiastic, curious listener who asks you lots of great questions, or do you think you would generally have more fun listening to an interesting, entertaining person talk at length about it and answer your questions enthusiastically?
Both, but probably the latter if I had to choose.

6: In the last question, what topic(s) were you think about?
Lots of stuff: academic, intellectual, philosophical, spiritual, artistic, practical, theoretical, moral, relational, etc. Pretty much anything I see as having value.

7: If someone is doing something that you strongly disagree with, how likely are you to confront them about it? If you do confront them, how do you usually tend to do it? How does your answer change depending on your relationship with the person, and whether their actions directly affect you?
Moderately likely. Usually calmly and gently, unless they’ve awakened my fury (not easy to do, but strong moral violations/cruelty will do it). Probably more likely to confront, but also more likely to be gentle/forgiving if close, and not much of a difference based on personal effect.

8: How interested are you in trying new things - traveling, trying strange and exotic foods, going on roller coasters, jumping out of airplanes, things like that? Regardless of how interested you are, how willing would you be to do those things if someone asked you to? How often do you actually do things like that? Give examples.
Quite interested, especially with intellectual and aesthetic experiences, but less so with thrills. I’d probably be willing to do most things if someone asked me as long as it’s not too potentially damaging to my wellbeing and/or future. I like most foods and types of music and art, and am always interested in new ways to expand my understanding, but am less likely to do things such as jumping out of airplanes due to the danger involved.

9: How would other people describe your demeanor? It may help to ask people you know. How emotional do you seem to people? How rational? Do you tend to be quiet and reserved, or more loud and talkative? Do you seem to choose your words carefully, or talk stream of consciousness, or do you sometimes think so fast you stumble trying to get all the words out? Do you tend to finish your sentences, or skip to the next sentence in the middle of the one you're saying, or skip to new topics entirely? Do you interrupt - if so, when and how often? How do you feel if someone interrupts you? How often do you feel like you have so much energy you can't sit still and need to be up and moving? How hard is it for you to get out of bed in the morning, or get up after relaxing for a long time?
Different people see me very differently: I’ve been described as everything from “Intimidating and reserved, almost to the point of asocial” to “Collected, but friendly, approachable and enthusiastic”, but most people seem to see me closer to the latter. My SJ mother finds me nearly impossible to read, while my INFP father describes me as “wearing my emotions on my sleeve.” Most people see me as not especially outwardly emotional, but not cold either. Although just about everyone sees me as very nice, if a little odd sometimes. Most people also see me as very rational, or at least valuing of rational thought. I mostly speak stream of consciousness, but fluently and cohesively, usually finishing my sentences. I don’t interrupt very often, and I’m usually outwardly patient with interruptions, but less so inwardly. I'm rarely spastic like the question sounds, but I often feel driven to accomplish things, although I often don’t actually do that much because I spend so much time analyzing things and figuring out the best course of action. Not usually very hard to get up, unless I haven’t gotten much sleep recently.

10: Are you involved in any creative activities or projects? What are they and why do you like them? What are your goals in these areas? What have you felt most proud of or satisfied with? How likely are you to finish a particular project you start?
Not at the moment due to being too perfectionistic and never being happy with the results of my creative endeavors: I can never produce something in the physical world that matches up with the vision I have in my head. It feels like trying to recreate the Mona Lisa with three crayons. I usually finish projects, unless I get too discouraged by the aforementioned perfectionism.

Additional Follow-up Questions:

1: We've all had conversations with someone who was 'missing the point'. Give an example or two, real or imagined, of conversations that would make you feel that way - what is the "point", and how is the other person missing it?
Talking to my SJ family members about infinity (different sized infinities, performing infinite actions in a finite amount of time, cutting an object into infinitely many pieces and then rearranging them into two identical copies of the original, etc.) They always say it's dumb and pointless because it can't happen, when it doesn't matter if it can't happen in the physical world, it's still valuable to contemplate things that only exist theoretically.

2: How long does it usually take you to realize/decide that you are unhappy with a situation in your life (e.g. job, relationship)? Do you talks to others to figure out your feelings, or are you more likely to keep it to yourself until you've figured it out? At what stage would you discuss the issue with the affected parties (boss, S.O.)? Are you likely to change your mind after announcing your decision? How difficult are changes like this for you to adapt to? How often do you experience big changes like this? Do you feel like these changes are more the result of your own decisions and opinions, or are they more the inevitable result of external circumstances?
I usually realize quickly when I'm unhappy with something, and though I usually try to figure out my feelings on my own first, I often get valuable additional insight when I talk to people about them. I'm not likely to discuss it with the affected parties until I've figured out exactly what I'm feeling and why, as well as what I'm going to do about it. I rarely change my decisions after I announce them because by the time I announce my decisions I've analyzed them extensively and am very sure of them. How well I adapt depends on how smooth the transition is: if it's violent and messy it takes a lot longer than if it's more peaceful and clean. Not too often. I generally feel like they're a mix: there's often a lot of inevitability involved, but there's also usually agency I didn't fully utilize that might've been able to prevent it.

3: How do you feel after going all day without doing anything productive? How often do you have days like this? Do you wish you had more or fewer of them?
I generally think of things in terms of value rather than "productiveness." For instance: spending time with friends or reading about philosophy are both very valuable, but not necessarily productive. If I don't do anything valuable in a day then I feel pretty despondent, but thankfully that doesn't happen very often. I do still wish I had fewer days like that though: sometimes I get sucked into the YouTube gaming sinkhole.

4: What kinds of things are you more stubborn about than most people? What kinds of things are you more easy-going about?
I'm quite stubborn about not getting to places late and about my most deeply held values and principles, but with most other things I'm pretty easy-going.


Based on this information, the thread owner concluded I was an INFJ. What are your opinions on this?
 

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So, at this point I'm pretty confident my typing was correct, but I'd still like someone to double check just in case I missed something in my answers that would make it definite I'm a type other than INFJ or just definitely not an INFJ.
 

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@Ernilthur

What other types do you think you could be?

Also, have you studied cognitive functions?

Anyways, here's what an INFJ should be like:

Ni-Dominant:
 

Do you observe the situation from a big picture context, looking for patterns in the events/behaviors that can help you predict what will happen next (based on vague patterns you’ve experienced before)? Do you often feel quite certain about future outcomes, sometimes without knowing why or have difficulty explaining why? Do you find it hard to decide what to do if you cannot see any “deeper meaning” in a situation or if you cannot understand the “ultimate purpose” of an action? Do you get easily annoyed if people/situations seem “superficial” or often think that life requires more meaning/purpose? (Introverted Intuition or Ni analyzes and interprets the contextual meaning or importance of things in order to orient oneself towards what will be true in the future: INTJ/INFJ)

focuses on observing context and meaning

explores meaningful patterns from different perspectives

cultivated through making inferences based on vaguely familiar patterns

maintains a flexible and interpretive approach to life, carefully filtering words, concepts, signs, symbols, metaphors, abstractions in order to construct a personalized vision/theory of the world

values knowledge/objects that have personal symbolic significance or predictive power (tend to have interests that strike others as unpredictable)

driven to seek out meaning, truth, insight, knowledge

makes decisions based on extrapolating future developments

defines true knowledge in terms of understanding how meanings, perspectives, or standpoints can be manipulated or changed (mental constructs are real but arbitrarily defined, therefore a change in definition can produce a change in perspective)

knows that exploring perception itself: 1) strengthens the power of imagination and reveals the boundaries/limitations of what is known, 2) makes progress in the external world by pinpointing and questioning the (faulty) underlying assumptions that underpin belief systems, 3) anchors the self by imbuing personally significant concepts, ideals, values, or theories with a reality of their own, 4) reduces conflict by honoring truth, authenticity, and long term vision

defines social relationships in terms of realizing “ideals” (how people live up to their latent potential)

interprets social relationships through meaningful actions that affirm the quality/strength of the relationship

inspires others by being the focal point of people’s sense of mystery regarding the unknown or unexplored aspects of human existence

Ni-doms are usually drawn to careers or interests that allow them to: examine and challenge unrecognized or unacknowledged aspects of reality; grapple with theory or questions surrounding language, definitions, terminology; explore creative solutions to philosophical problems; help others realize their potential; persuade people to broaden their intellectual horizons


Fe-Auxiliary:
 

Ni-Fe: Healthy Fe means you use your observations/knowledge of predictive patterns to orient yourself towards the decision that will take into account the perspectives of everybody involved so as to promote meaningful long-term compromise, consensus, or cooperation. You prioritize the need to first ensure that everyone can work well together above the need to solve the problem immediately. Unhealthy Fe often leads to a poor understanding of self and others, unhealthy/imbalanced relationships, or resistance to being influenced by others/society.

Conflicted Ni

Dominant Ni wants to understand abstract patterns, perspectives, and implications in order to accurately predict what will happen, thereby constructing a sense of personal vision and purpose. However, it can become too prone to overcomplicating meaning and misinterpreting “truth” to the point of forming unrealistic ideals. This can result in undervaluing or ignoring simple facts and details or any perspective that is deemed as disruptive or unduly “infecting” one’s personal vision. To other people, heavy reliance on Ni appears impractical, arrogant, or neurotic.

Healthy Fe

Healthy Fe should turn Ni’s attention towards the external world. Through Fe, Ni can make better judgments and expand the sense of self through examining new or different perspectives from others. By using more objective perspectives to evaluate situations, Ni can find better ways to adapt subjective vision to external obligations. It is especially important for Ni to examine enough perspectives with enough depth to arrive at more accurate intuitions about the world.

Healthy Fe should serve to compensate for inferior Se by helping Ni to understand why it is important to gather more factual data and evidence to verify one’s intuitions about people and the world, rather than immediately rejecting certain perspectives in favor of keeping with one’s established vision or ideals. When Ni can understand the benefits of using intuition to achieve greater social harmony and mutual appreciation, INFJs will feel less isolated and more connected to the universal truths of human existence. Ni should realize that it is necessary to engage fully with the external world because intuition is firmly rooted in the tangible reality of the present situation, rather than compulsively deferring to some empty conceptual understanding of the world/future.

Healthy Fe can also enhance the ability to reach greater levels of insight and compassion by making Ni more attuned to the underlying truths that bind people together and adapting one’s goals to them more appropriately.

Unhealthy Fe

When Ni resists Fe, it closes itself off to developing a broader understanding of people and the world and, as a result, severely restricts itself to a limited number of situations that are comfortable or aligned with subjective vision. These INFJs will tend to behave in ways that seem isolative, indecisive, or needlessly defensive, ignoring important areas of life that require further development.

When Ni overindulges Fe, it becomes excessively focused on relationships because of defining personal vision through maintaining harmony with others. These INFJs are prone to becoming too accommodating or expecting too much from relationships, failing to establish appropriate boundaries or standards for balancing their own well-being with the concerns of others.

Whether resisting or overindulging, both cases exemplify immature ways of exerting superficial control over the real or imagined threats of the external world. Long term unhealthy Fe behaviors will eventually lead to feelings of loneliness, neediness for approval, or difficulty forming healthy relationships.


Ti-Tertiary:
 

healthy Ti: analyzes situations critically and patiently; responsible and owns up to personal flaws, weaknesses, limitations, or mistakes; feels a desire to increase or develop systematic knowledge and understanding; values independent thought and action, comfortable with healthy self-sufficiency; clear understanding of one’s role in relationships and sets appropriate boundaries between self and others

resisting Ti: avoids critical self-analysis; indecisive or difficulty making important decisions; difficulty acknowledging or confronting criticism, mistakes, negative feedback, or personal shortcomings; avoids knowledge, experiences, or situations that trigger discomfort or insecurities; difficulty forming clear boundaries in relationships; difficulty exercising adequate self-care; prone to being too dependent on others for self-esteem or forming opinions; prone to passive, erratic, martyr-like, or hypocritical behavior in close relationships

defensive loop: stubborn and unwilling to acknowledge or change faulty ideas/assumptions (can’t admit to being wrong); lack of empathy; prone to negativity, bitterness, or cynicism; feels threatened by social/relational commitments or intimacy; feels threatened by emotionality or sentimentality; refuses to listen to other perspectives and only accepts others when they agree; prone to being arrogant, condescending, or unfairly critical/judgmental of others or the world at large; tendency to project personal/emotional issues onto others as a way to avoid own insecurities; can be argumentative and prone to blunt verbal retorts or attacks or blame; subconsciously tries to manipulate people’s emotions/behaviors; rationalizes away one’s own problematic beliefs/actions with the unconscious intent to repress feelings of inadequacy or insecurity

Ni-Ti loop: compelled to concoct convoluted “logical” rationales to justify one’s problematic vision of the “truth” and reject the perspectives of those deemed “ignorant”, “superficial”, or misguided -> but ends up in self-doubt, regret, or isolation because of stubbornly alienating oneself from others and failing/refusing to acknowledge deep insecurities


Se-Inferior:
 

Weaknesses usually stem from Ni-Se imbalances:

have difficulty living in the present due to being future-oriented

sometimes make incorrect inferences due to ignoring concrete facts

uncomfortable with feeling ordinary, superficial, or mediocre

avoid external influence, dismiss advice, tend to overlook important details that conflict with their perspective (tunnel vision)

tend to overlook practical/material needs because of excessive attention paid to inner reflection (lost in their heads)

often feel isolated or detached from the physical world (solipsistic)

difficulty understanding that making good choices involves appreciating present circumstances and being proactive in response to changes (instead of overthinking everything and only acting when it is too late, or waiting until the facts of the situation overwhelm one’s preconceived expectations)

difficulty seeing themselves objectively; view dogmatism in others as a weakness but cannot see it in themselves (lack of self-awareness because Ni operates subconsciously)

inaccessible/obsessive when engaged with passionate interests; do not involve others in activities or quests for knowledge

can appear neurotic, arrogant, aloof, or uptight to others

tend to use ironic/sarcastic sense of humor as defense mechanism

tend to lose interest in a subject once it becomes mainstream

shift perspectives as a way to rationalize/justify problematic behavior

tend to be drawn to people with weak J attitude as a way to feel superior through advising/counseling others

difficulty maintaining healthy relationships because of adherence to unrealistic ideals/expectations

high pressure to deepen their knowledge means they often feel dissatisfied and drown themselves in information with no way to filter it objectively; can have difficulty properly judging which perspective is better/worse

difficulty engaging with subjects that are not personally meaningful

Ongoing type-related development for Ni-doms:

work on being more adaptable to changes in external circumstances

use physical/sensual activities to relax rather than to escape stress

set more realistic goals for yourself to avoid undue stress or anxiety

use Se consciously to explain one’s current awareness of a situation

use Se adaptively by forming the habit of focusing on sensory information

use Se to support Ni by collecting evidence/experience of the physical world and taking practical action towards goals/potential

avoiding making incorrect intuitive connections without enough facts

become more aware of the intuitive process so that you can know yourself more objectively and communicate your thoughts, ideas, or feelings clearly to others

enjoy physical activities or aesthetic/artistic pursuits in a way that allows you to exercise your intuition alongside sensing, e.g., interpret and re-interpret works of visual/performance art

reflect on how your relentless need to analyze meaning or pursue future goals affects you and the people around you

make efforts to genuinely understand and build up the natural strengths of Se; observe healthy Se-doms and learn to appreciate their style

envision, recall, or experience real-life scenarios where Se is more capable or effective than Ni at handling reality, so that you can learn to consciously and comfortably choose the most adaptive behaviors
 

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Well, this thread now has no further purpose :tongue:

Thank you so much! You completely eliminated the last little bits of doubt I had in my type.

To answer your questions though: I've considered almost all of the types at one time or another, and yes, I have studied cognitive functions, but I've never found anything as good as your descriptions. Where did you get them? I'd very much like to have access to whatever resources from whence you drew them.
 

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After further research and consideration, I've come to the conclusion that I'm actually an INTJ who's been Ni-Fi looping a lot recently rather than an INFJ.
 
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