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This may give more information about myself: http://personalitycafe.com/whats-my...-i-am-9-maybe-questionnaire.html#post15877194
That thread contains a questionnaire I filled out last month please do read it if you have the time ^^

Hello~

I am a Male 17 y/o Sp/So/Sx
Last month I got a response to look into Enneagram further and finally found some solid footing after recent events...

I am now fairly certain that I am type 6.
Recently I found out why I am so stressed in school to the point it affects me greatly in exams that I found myself getting way too anxious and can't calm myself down. I have always wondered why. I always found myself somewhat in a state of discomfort in school. It's certainly not due to studies as I do well. I always found it hard to calm myself down to the point that the best way to calm myself down is either isolation and contemplating what is happening and why I am like this getting down to what went wrong or needing to discuss with other people about the situation at hand. I found that I get way too stressed in school is because of my fear of what's going to happen, as in I fear the teachers , the homework, the people ,the tests, expectations and everything in it because they all are like these monsters ready to pounce on you for every single mistake that went wrong. If you don't mind me elaborating: The tests conducted or homework assigned if not done well the people will take that as a weakness and exploit it and teachers get disappointed and this 'weigh' is added onto me that causes me to get anxious feeling. Expectations ruin me and set the bar TOO high and people will always try to pin point every single weakness of yours and criticize your every move and it hurts! I find that school feels 'unsafe', 'dangerous' , very...insecure. It's nerve wrecking and especially in exam halls where if one single thing I find going wrong could really ruin me.Whats worst is that I find it extremely hard to calm myself down and I don't really know an effective way to.

This may just be a typical student fear though but its something that I always had trouble with life in general of finding it HARD to either trust people or trust information in general. I am extremely skeptic about things and love to solve things myself. When a problem arises I love to think and solve it myself. I love to connect with people though its not that I hate them its just trust is hard to come by at times and finding trust is very important. I can't handle people exploiting me or using my weakness against me. I am always willing to lend a helping hand and will always be there. I ain't serious though as a person but when the time needs it I will be extremely serious.

Sorry for disturbing you but @Paradigm if you may I have looked into Enneagram further and here are my results :3
 

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Sorry for disturbing you but @Paradigm if you may I have looked into Enneagram further and here are my results :3
Came down with the flu. Please mention me again in a week, I should be better by then. :happy:

Edit: Actually, dumb flu brain, I replied before reading. You seem pretty 6ish to me. Let me know if you have any questions.
 

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Came down with the flu. Please mention me again in a week, I should be better by then. :happy:

Edit: Actually, dumb flu brain, I replied before reading. You seem pretty 6ish to me. Let me know if you have any questions.
Sorry I didn't wanna bother you while you were sick xD

Anyways 6ish hmmm elaborate please?

And if I am a 6 whats the difference between 6w5 and 6w7 aside from introversion and extraversion?

Anything more you can say or add to being a type 6?
 

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Sorry I didn't wanna bother you while you were sick xD
No worries, feeling more normal now :)

Anyways 6ish hmmm elaborate please?
In this context, "more 6 than not-6."

And if I am a 6 whats the difference between 6w5 and 6w7 aside from introversion and extraversion?
No, that's not how it works. I'm a very introverted 6w7. The differences are more fundamental than that. 6w5s are typically more "coiled," defensive, testing; 6w7s are more "scattered," reactive, and trusting. I suppose for your typing it doesn't matter much; 6w7 seems way more likely for you than 6w5, IIRC.

http://personalitycafe.com/type-6-f...ing-you-need-another-w5-w7-uncertain-6-p.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-6-forum-loyalist/162253-6w5-vs-6w7-discussion.html

Anything more you can say or add to being a type 6?
http://personalitycafe.com/type-6-f...t-does-type-6-anxiety-actually-feel-like.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-6-forum-loyalist/114097-sixes-weakest-type-other-lies.html
Type Comparisons & Common Misconceptions (My post about type 6 misconceptions)
http://personalitycafe.com/type-6-f...types-misconceptions-associated-type-6-a.html

Bonus, since SOC-first was a real option:
http://personalitycafe.com/enneagra...d-so-unconventional-yet-typical-portrait.html
 

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No worries, feeling more normal now :)


In this context, "more 6 than not-6."


No, that's not how it works. I'm a very introverted 6w7. The differences are more fundamental than that. 6w5s are typically more "coiled," defensive, testing; 6w7s are more "scattered," reactive, and trusting. I suppose for your typing it doesn't matter much; 6w7 seems way more likely for you than 6w5, IIRC.

http://personalitycafe.com/type-6-f...ing-you-need-another-w5-w7-uncertain-6-p.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-6-forum-loyalist/162253-6w5-vs-6w7-discussion.html


http://personalitycafe.com/type-6-f...t-does-type-6-anxiety-actually-feel-like.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-6-forum-loyalist/114097-sixes-weakest-type-other-lies.html
Type Comparisons & Common Misconceptions (My post about type 6 misconceptions)
http://personalitycafe.com/type-6-f...types-misconceptions-associated-type-6-a.html

Bonus, since SOC-first was a real option:
http://personalitycafe.com/enneagra...d-so-unconventional-yet-typical-portrait.html
If you don't mind me asking. What IS type 6?
What IS it?
I keep hearing about 6 and trust/mistrust , tends to use the head too much or being extremely skeptic. I even read a thread about ENTP type 6 and their Fe. But how does one know one is an type 6? How does one become sure of it? Like an indicator of some sort?

There are traits of a Type 6 which I find unreliable cause anybody could have the traits. Anybody could be skeptic or have trust issues. So I want to know...What IS type 6?

Sorry I am just getting slightly lost here.
 

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@Paradigm

Sorry for double post

I think my last post was a bit vague.
What I meant was. Type 6 fear is said to be existential anxiety. They generally have trust issues and tend to be skeptic. Yes sure I understand but how would I know if it's something I am just feeling in this current moment that could change making me not a type 6? I mean I could just appearing a type 6 right now due to anxiety but is there a secure way of ensuring it?

I mean yes I do find trust of people even close friends and family a bit hard and value it. Just today I was thinking what if people are just complimenting me cause I appear weak or I appear I ask for it or they are just doing it and I am just more or less just an average guy, and I tend to find trust of people hard. A friend of mine added me on FB and I didn't know if it was REALLY her as in I wasn't sure, so I was extremely skeptic and kept my guard and asked alot of questions and such. Eventually I got to find out it was her.

Oh and you wrote that Enneagram talks about why we do things.
I tend to be extremely absent-minded and tend to retreat back into my head. I tend to think alot and tend to ruminate on alot of things. Ranging from silly things to the nature of the universe. Is this a behavior of any of the types? Type 6?

And I would also like to ask how is the interaction of a type 6 with other people?

Thanks~
 
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No worries, feeling more normal now :)


In this context, "more 6 than not-6."


No, that's not how it works. I'm a very introverted 6w7. The differences are more fundamental than that. 6w5s are typically more "coiled," defensive, testing; 6w7s are more "scattered," reactive, and trusting. I suppose for your typing it doesn't matter much; 6w7 seems way more likely for you than 6w5, IIRC.

http://personalitycafe.com/type-6-f...ing-you-need-another-w5-w7-uncertain-6-p.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-6-forum-loyalist/162253-6w5-vs-6w7-discussion.html


http://personalitycafe.com/type-6-f...t-does-type-6-anxiety-actually-feel-like.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-6-forum-loyalist/114097-sixes-weakest-type-other-lies.html
Type Comparisons & Common Misconceptions (My post about type 6 misconceptions)
http://personalitycafe.com/type-6-f...types-misconceptions-associated-type-6-a.html

Bonus, since SOC-first was a real option:
http://personalitycafe.com/enneagra...d-so-unconventional-yet-typical-portrait.html
OH one last question:

Why are some types said to be detached and absent minded and others are not?
Cause I can pretty absent-minded (way too much xD) and was why I considered 9 5 and 4 but wasn't all too sure. So what do they mean by detachment?
 

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OH one last question:

Why are some types said to be detached and absent minded and others are not?
Cause I can pretty absent-minded (way too much xD) and was why I considered 9 5 and 4 but wasn't all too sure. So what do they mean by detachment?
Sorry. Sick turned into sick again and then into busy.

I suspect by "detachment" people mean "withdrawn", and that means the primary coping mechanism of those types are to withdraw to get their needs met. 4 withdraws for their emotional needs, 5 for their knowledge needs, and 9 for their peaceful needs.

That does not, however, preclude other types from doing so. When our primary mechanisms fail, we use others. Sometimes we learn to use other mechanisms to the point of overriding our primary (and may turn into a habitual use). But, in my experience, there's always that "instinctual" reaction to use our primary mechanisms, though I'm not sure if most people would realize this, or the difference, in themselves or not.

"Absent minded" is not type dependent and anyone who tries to suggest otherwise is silly. Without context, I can't really guess at other meanings.
 

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Sorry. Sick turned into sick again and then into busy.

I suspect by "detachment" people mean "withdrawn", and that means the primary coping mechanism of those types are to withdraw to get their needs met. 4 withdraws for their emotional needs, 5 for their knowledge needs, and 9 for their peaceful needs.

That does not, however, preclude other types from doing so. When our primary mechanisms fail, we use others. Sometimes we learn to use other mechanisms to the point of overriding our primary (and may turn into a habitual use). But, in my experience, there's always that "instinctual" reaction to use our primary mechanisms, though I'm not sure if most people would realize this, or the difference, in themselves or not.

"Absent minded" is not type dependent and anyone who tries to suggest otherwise is silly. Without context, I can't really guess at other meanings.
I see thanks ^v^

Sorry for bothering you like this :/

Anyways whenever if you can I had a post before that with some questions:
Type 6 fear is said to be existential anxiety. They generally have trust issues and tend to be skeptic. Yes sure I understand but how would I know if it's something I am just feeling in this current moment that could change making me not a type 6? I mean I could just appearing a type 6 right now due to anxiety but is there a secure way of ensuring it?

I mean yes I do find trust of people even close friends and family a bit hard and value it. Just today I was thinking what if people are just complimenting me cause I appear weak or I appear I ask for it or they are just doing it and I am just more or less just an average guy, and I tend to find trust of people hard. A friend of mine added me on FB and I didn't know if it was REALLY her as in I wasn't sure, so I was extremely skeptic and kept my guard and asked alot of questions and such. Eventually I got to find out it was her.

Oh and you wrote that Enneagram talks about why we do things.
I tend to be extremely absent-minded and tend to retreat back into my head. I tend to think alot and tend to ruminate on alot of things. Ranging from silly things to the nature of the universe. Is this a behavior of any of the types? Type 6?

And I would also like to ask how is the interaction of a type 6 with other people?

Thanks~
Anyways just answer it when you can I can wait.

Thanks alot for what you have done.
 
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Anyways whenever if you can I had a post before that with some questions:
Anyways just answer it when you can I can wait.
Thanks alot for what you have done.
You're welcome :)

I'm sorry myself, but would you mind rephrasing those questions, or make them a little more succinct? I'm getting lost in what is speculation and what questions you're actually wanting me to answer.
 

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You're welcome :)

I'm sorry myself, but would you mind rephrasing those questions, or make them a little more succinct? I'm getting lost in what is speculation and what questions you're actually wanting me to answer.
Oh sorry I should've been more clear.

Anyways My Question is: How would a person know that they are a type 6?
Because all what I have been reading are traits such as type 6 are skeptic and such and such. Which are traits not type 6 itself...right? And Traits could change over time right? I mean I could be skeptic now but not skeptic in the future hence not making me a type 6 anymore.

So is there a sure fire way of knowing?
Cause I do relate with the skepticism of type 6 but I'm unsure if I really am one.

and lastly what is type 6?

If Type 5 is about detachment for the sake of knowledge
Type 9 correlated to peace
Type 4 about identity
Type 1 about ideals
etc.

What is type 6?
I keep hearing anxiety but everyone has that, and again how do we know.
Sorry I just need some surety.
 
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Oh sorry I should've been more clear.

Anyways My Question is: How would a person know that they are a type 6?
Because all what I have been reading are traits such as type 6 are skeptic and such and such. Which are traits not type 6 itself...right? And Traits could change over time right? I mean I could be skeptic now but not skeptic in the future hence not making me a type 6 anymore.

So is there a sure fire way of knowing?
Cause I do relate with the skepticism of type 6 but I'm unsure if I really am one.

and lastly what is type 6?

If Type 5 is about detachment for the sake of knowledge
Type 9 correlated to peace
Type 4 about identity
Type 1 about ideals
etc.

What is type 6?
I keep hearing anxiety but everyone has that, and again how do we know.
Sorry I just need some surety.
Okay so this is going to be ironic. To follow your pattern there...

Type 9 correlated to peace
Type 4 correlated to identity
Type 1 correlated to ideals
Type 6 is correlated to certainty.

That's why they're skeptical, because they are so uncertain. That's what it means when people/descriptions say "6s want a blueprint to life." They want to know what they can trust or not, what is real or isn't real. 6s are constantly looking for certainty, for the truth, but of course can never find it.

Some 6s come to peace with that, eventually. Some 6s don't or can't.

Every 6 reacts differently to feeling uncertain. Every 6 has their own perception of what they think is the truth. That's why 6 is so hard to pin down.
 

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Okay so this is going to be ironic. To follow your pattern there...



Type 6 is correlated to certainty.

That's why they're skeptical, because they are so uncertain. That's what it means when people/descriptions say "6s want a blueprint to life." They want to know what they can trust or not, what is real or isn't real. 6s are constantly looking for certainty, for the truth, but of course can never find it.

Some 6s come to peace with that, eventually. Some 6s don't or can't.

Every 6 reacts differently to feeling uncertain. Every 6 has their own perception of what they think is the truth. That's why 6 is so hard to pin down.

Oh ok xD
Hmm I guess I am getting more certain That I am type 6...
What do you think?
 
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