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Am I an INFP or an ISFP?

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So I have taken the online 16 personalities quiz (is this the best online Myers-Briggs quiz?) and it listed me as INFP (The Idealist). After reading the description, it seemed like a very accurate analysis of my personality. When I searched famous INFPs on google, I was shocked to see that many of those listed I somewhat admire or am a fan of, in terms of their works of art and/or personality (Thom Yorke, Bjork, Louis CK, Stephen Colbert, Ian Curtis, Kurt Cobain, Matthew Bellamy, Marlon Brando, Van Gogh, and a bunch of great poets/authors/philosphers). I assumed that I was an INFP, but then when looking at descriptions of other personality types out of curiosity, I read the description of ISFP (The Artists) and it also sounded a lot like me. I am pretty confused as to which one I am, so I am just going to list some things I instinctively seem to do that I've noticed, some personal conflicts, and some other things about me. Hopefully these can help you guys figure out if I'm an INFP and ISFP. Also, if you have advice on some of my conflicts, feel free to share it. And sorry if this is really long and irregularly written, I have a really hard time explaining personal characteristics about myself...

- I have mild General Anxiety Disorder and ADD, and also occasional depression, and while I usually become talkative and relaxed with friends, I am reserved around people I don't know very well. It has become much less severe (in terms of socializing) within the last couple years, but it still affects me in some personal situations, like accomplishing my personal goals and dreams (as elaborated in my next paragraph). I am in the closet (gay) at the moment, and while I am sure my family and friends would accept me if/when I come out, there is something holding me back. It might be because I feel very uncomfortable being the center of attention. I'm thinking of just coming out once I go to college, so it doesn't have to be some shocking event, as nobody there would know me. My family and friends have no clue (besides two), because I am not the "feminine" gay stereotype. My grades aren't anything special (2.9 GPA) because I am uninterested and distracted in most classes, and because my anxiety would cause me to procrastinate studying. Basically, I have a difficult time learning about things I don't have a passion for (I am terrible at anything math-related). If I have to write a research essay on something I am not interested in, like "The Canterbury Tales", I have to painfully BS my way through it. But at the same time, I'm now taking an honors course on modern music and I have a 105 in the class. I'm also writing for the school newspaper about music and it's just so satisfying to me.

- My main interests involve just about every form of art. I am obsessed with listening to music, and I am particularly obsessed with Radiohead. The thing I like the most about the band is their ability to have both artistically unique melodies and poetic, thought-provoking lyrics. I can spend all day noticing new details in the instrumentals and analyzing lyrical themes and meanings of albums like Kid A or In Rainbows. Even though I'm afraid it's not possible, I have, since early high school, fantasized and dreamed of becoming a successful, innovative musician. I play a little guitar, but my doubtfulness of becoming a successful musician causes me to delay practicing guitar, which leads to me losing my faith in accomplishing my dream. I also have a lack of education and resources in terms of the technical standpoint of being a musician (I don't even know how to change the strings of a guitar!), and when I see my Facebook friends posting videos of themselves shredding like animals on the guitar, I can't help but feel disappointed in myself. I feel that it's too late for me to develop instrument playing skills (I'm 17.) Also, my close friends at school aren't as "artsy" as I am, and it really bugs me because I love talking about my interests to people with similar interests, but I don't have access to other people like me. I used to sing at my arts camp in musicals and once at a rock band night with friends, and the latter made me realize that being a musician and performing would make me feel the most satisfied. When I performed, the crowd (most of them my friends) seemed to like it, but I didn't get any special compliments on my voice in general (although I didn't hear anything negative, either), so I am unsure if even my singing voice is at all good. I basically think I can only keep a tune. So yeah, as much as I want to be a musician, my own self confidence is crushing that opportunity for me. I write some poetry, but I never share it with anyone. I also make some art, mainly abstract things involving geometric faces and water-coloring. In terms of literature, I have always had a hard time reading full books, mainly because of my ADD. I wish I could read books fully through, but it's hard for me to remain in focus, and my parents always criticize me for not reading enough. However, I love reading poems and analyzing them. I also read news articles on the internet daily, so I don't know if that counts. I also heavily admire some cinema and tv shows for the themes, script, acting, and cinematography. With every form of artwork, I always try to analyze it on multiple levels, if that makes sense. And while I am interested in various forms of art, writing and making music is the dream that I have that appeals to me the most. My family doesn't know anything about my desire to become a musician, and they think I want to be a music journalist. While that is better for me than an office job, making music would make me happier.

- I find politics and current events more interesting than a lot kids my age do. I always try to look at things with multiple perspectives to see what I truly feel is right. When I debate with other kids about issues we don't agree on, I am terrible at it because I instinctively attempt to be as respectful as possible to them, and I try to avoid insulting their beliefs. I also have a really hard time explaining my beliefs thoroughly and quickly when they're questioned by others, even though I'm very informed and knowledgeable about them. It's easier for me to just write and elaborate on my beliefs in an essay than to simply and instantaneously say it on the spot.

- I always attempt to see the best in people. For example, there is this kid in some of my classes who is an ignorant class-clown moron who is rude to others. While I obviously disagree with his actions, I feel bad for him because I believe his actions are ignited because of low self-esteem issues. I even sometimes feel bad for people going to prison for crimes. Unless someone is a murderer or extreme bigot, I unintentionally sympathize a tiny bit for them. A lot of times, my sympathy and trust for some people just leads me to become disappointed when they do something I dislike. When someone hurts me emotionally, I usually bottle it all up and keep it to myself. If I begin getting visibly upset, I usually just chicken out and leave to avoid conflict. When I hear of ignorant groups of people, instead of thinking "what idiots!", I usually think, "wow, it's saddening that these people were brainwashed to think this way."

- While I usually try find the best in people, I have a clear dislike against most institutions. I hate the mainstream media, because it idolizes flashy celebrity culture and ignores the real issues. I hate most major corporations, because they discard the well being of billions of people and the importance of a non-polluted earth, all for money. They have influenced America so much that I personally think the corporations now have more control over the country than the government. And I hate most of the government (the U.S.), because they allowed this corporate takeover to happen, they are stubborn and refuse to compromise with the people or the opposing parties (ahem GOP), and because they mostly only care for their giant paychecks. (Although, I do support Bernie Sanders 2016.)

- On opinion essays assigned at my school, the essay is typically asked if you believe something is one way or the other. Even though it's safer to write the response as one way or the other, I believe that nothing is ever that simple. Every idea has its pros and cons. I catch myself many times responding to these questions "maybe both ways are partially true!"

So it took me over two hours to painfully write this unorganized stream of consciousness, and looking back at what I wrote makes me cringe, because I got so off-topic, ahaha. But whatever, maybe the weird formatting and confusing statements I made will help y'all figure out my personality type.
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One last thing I forgot to add is that I hate being labeled. Because of my interests in non-radio bands and artists, people label me things like "hipster", "try-hard", etc. when really I'm just liking what I like. I have always felt misunderstood.

And my self-esteem fluctuates rapidly. There are times where I think "I wish people viewed things the same way I do, and I wish there were more people like me I can be friends with". And then there are moments where I think "I'm just an arrogant jerk and I'm delusional." I really don't understand myself...
Oh, also forgot to mention, I am usually romantically attracted to guys similar to me personality wise. I like guys who are informed, sensitive, and artistic. I don't know if this really matters, but I thought i'd include it.
You sound like an INFP, what indicated more Ne over Se was:

I always try to look at things with multiple perspectives to see what I truly feel is right
On opinion essays assigned at my school, the essay is typically asked if you believe something is one way or the other. Even though it's safer to write the response as one way or the other, I believe that nothing is ever that simple. Every idea has its pros and cons. I catch myself many times responding to these questions "maybe both ways are partially true!"
So I have taken the online 16 personalities quiz (is this the best online Myers-Briggs quiz?) and it listed me as INFP (The Idealist). After reading the description, it seemed like a very accurate analysis of my personality. When I searched famous INFPs on google, I was shocked to see that many of those listed I somewhat admire or am a fan of, in terms of their works of art and/or personality (Thom Yorke, Bjork, Louis CK, Stephen Colbert, Ian Curtis, Kurt Cobain, Matthew Bellamy, Marlon Brando, Van Gogh, and a bunch of great poets/authors/philosphers). I assumed that I was an INFP, but then when looking at descriptions of other personality types out of curiosity, I read the description of ISFP (The Artists) and it also sounded a lot like me. I am pretty confused as to which one I am, so I am just going to list some things I instinctively seem to do that I've noticed, some personal conflicts, and some other things about me. Hopefully these can help you guys figure out if I'm an INFP and ISFP. Also, if you have advice on some of my conflicts, feel free to share it. And sorry if this is really long and irregularly written, I have a really hard time explaining personal characteristics about myself...

- I have mild General Anxiety Disorder and ADD, and also occasional depression, and while I usually become talkative and relaxed with friends, I am reserved around people I don't know very well. It has become much less severe (in terms of socializing) within the last couple years, but it still affects me in some personal situations, like accomplishing my personal goals and dreams (as elaborated in my next paragraph). I am in the closet (gay) at the moment, and while I am sure my family and friends would accept me if/when I come out, there is something holding me back. It might be because I feel very uncomfortable being the center of attention. I'm thinking of just coming out once I go to college, so it doesn't have to be some shocking event, as nobody there would know me. My family and friends have no clue (besides two), because I am not the "feminine" gay stereotype. My grades aren't anything special (2.9 GPA) because I am uninterested and distracted in most classes, and because my anxiety would cause me to procrastinate studying. Basically, I have a difficult time learning about things I don't have a passion for (I am terrible at anything math-related). If I have to write a research essay on something I am not interested in, like "The Canterbury Tales", I have to painfully BS my way through it. But at the same time, I'm now taking an honors course on modern music and I have a 105 in the class. I'm also writing for the school newspaper about music and it's just so satisfying to me.

- My main interests involve just about every form of art. I am obsessed with listening to music, and I am particularly obsessed with Radiohead. The thing I like the most about the band is their ability to have both artistically unique melodies and poetic, thought-provoking lyrics. I can spend all day noticing new details in the instrumentals and analyzing lyrical themes and meanings of albums like Kid A or In Rainbows. Even though I'm afraid it's not possible, I have, since early high school, fantasized and dreamed of becoming a successful, innovative musician. I play a little guitar, but my doubtfulness of becoming a successful musician causes me to delay practicing guitar, which leads to me losing my faith in accomplishing my dream. I also have a lack of education and resources in terms of the technical standpoint of being a musician (I don't even know how to change the strings of a guitar!), and when I see my Facebook friends posting videos of themselves shredding like animals on the guitar, I can't help but feel disappointed in myself. I feel that it's too late for me to develop instrument playing skills (I'm 17.) Also, my close friends at school aren't as "artsy" as I am, and it really bugs me because I love talking about my interests to people with similar interests, but I don't have access to other people like me. I used to sing at my arts camp in musicals and once at a rock band night with friends, and the latter made me realize that being a musician and performing would make me feel the most satisfied. When I performed, the crowd (most of them my friends) seemed to like it, but I didn't get any special compliments on my voice in general (although I didn't hear anything negative, either), so I am unsure if even my singing voice is at all good. I basically think I can only keep a tune. So yeah, as much as I want to be a musician, my own self confidence is crushing that opportunity for me. I write some poetry, but I never share it with anyone. I also make some art, mainly abstract things involving geometric faces and water-coloring. In terms of literature, I have always had a hard time reading full books, mainly because of my ADD. I wish I could read books fully through, but it's hard for me to remain in focus, and my parents always criticize me for not reading enough. However, I love reading poems and analyzing them. I also read news articles on the internet daily, so I don't know if that counts. I also heavily admire some cinema and tv shows for the themes, script, acting, and cinematography. With every form of artwork, I always try to analyze it on multiple levels, if that makes sense. And while I am interested in various forms of art, writing and making music is the dream that I have that appeals to me the most. My family doesn't know anything about my desire to become a musician, and they think I want to be a music journalist. While that is better for me than an office job, making music would make me happier.

- I find politics and current events more interesting than a lot kids my age do. I always try to look at things with multiple perspectives to see what I truly feel is right. When I debate with other kids about issues we don't agree on, I am terrible at it because I instinctively attempt to be as respectful as possible to them, and I try to avoid insulting their beliefs. I also have a really hard time explaining my beliefs thoroughly and quickly when they're questioned by others, even though I'm very informed and knowledgeable about them. It's easier for me to just write and elaborate on my beliefs in an essay than to simply and instantaneously say it on the spot.

- I always attempt to see the best in people. For example, there is this kid in some of my classes who is an ignorant class-clown moron who is rude to others. While I obviously disagree with his actions, I feel bad for him because I believe his actions are ignited because of low self-esteem issues. I even sometimes feel bad for people going to prison for crimes. Unless someone is a murderer or extreme bigot, I unintentionally sympathize a tiny bit for them. A lot of times, my sympathy and trust for some people just leads me to become disappointed when they do something I dislike. When someone hurts me emotionally, I usually bottle it all up and keep it to myself. If I begin getting visibly upset, I usually just chicken out and leave to avoid conflict. When I hear of ignorant groups of people, instead of thinking "what idiots!", I usually think, "wow, it's saddening that these people were brainwashed to think this way."

- While I usually try find the best in people, I have a clear dislike against most institutions. I hate the mainstream media, because it idolizes flashy celebrity culture and ignores the real issues. I hate most major corporations, because they discard the well being of billions of people and the importance of a non-polluted earth, all for money. They have influenced America so much that I personally think the corporations now have more control over the country than the government. And I hate most of the government (the U.S.), because they allowed this corporate takeover to happen, they are stubborn and refuse to compromise with the people or the opposing parties (ahem GOP), and because they mostly only care for their giant paychecks. (Although, I do support Bernie Sanders 2016.)

- On opinion essays assigned at my school, the essay is typically asked if you believe something is one way or the other. Even though it's safer to write the response as one way or the other, I believe that nothing is ever that simple. Every idea has its pros and cons. I catch myself many times responding to these questions "maybe both ways are partially true!"

So it took me over two hours to painfully write this unorganized stream of consciousness, and looking back at what I wrote makes me cringe, because I got so off-topic, ahaha. But whatever, maybe the weird formatting and confusing statements I made will help y'all figure out my personality type.
From what you wrote I would say you could be more ISFP, but i suggest learning about cognitive functions. Those really helped me finding my type. Tests weren't very accurate for me. Try to let go of stereotypes about introverts and extroverts or that ISFPs have to actually be 'artists'. Also i had to wait for someone to told me how emotional i am, to actually notice it. So it could help chatting with someone for a bit, too. :happy:
You sound like an INFP, what indicated more Ne...
I don't find her particularly Ne, I agree with her thoughts (most of them actually) but, at least in my case, is more due to Fi.

I always try to look at things with multiple perspectives to see what I truly feel is right
This seems Fi in my opinion.
First off, strong Fi throughout the post, but this is a non-issue from what I read.
As for Ne(/Si) and Se(/Ni), I see more Ne/Si, particularly in desire to look into multiple perspectives.
- I have mild General Anxiety Disorder and ADD, and also occasional depression, and while I usually become talkative and relaxed with friends, I am reserved around people I don't know very well. It has become much less severe (in terms of socializing) within the last couple years, but it still affects me in some personal situations, like accomplishing my personal goals and dreams (as elaborated in my next paragraph). I am in the closet (gay) at the moment, and while I am sure my family and friends would accept me if/when I come out, there is something holding me back. It might be because I feel very uncomfortable being the center of attention. I'm thinking of just coming out once I go to college, so it doesn't have to be some shocking event, as nobody there would know me. My family and friends have no clue (besides two), because I am not the "feminine" gay stereotype. My grades aren't anything special (2.9 GPA) because I am uninterested and distracted in most classes, and because my anxiety would cause me to procrastinate studying. Basically, I have a difficult time learning about things I don't have a passion for (I am terrible at anything math-related). If I have to write a research essay on something I am not interested in, like "The Canterbury Tales", I have to painfully BS my way through it. But at the same time, I'm now taking an honors course on modern music and I have a 105 in the class. I'm also writing for the school newspaper about music and it's just so satisfying to me.

- My main interests involve just about every form of art. I am obsessed with listening to music, and I am particularly obsessed with Radiohead. The thing I like the most about the band is their ability to have both artistically unique melodies and poetic, thought-provoking lyrics. I can spend all day noticing new details in the instrumentals and analyzing lyrical themes and meanings of albums like Kid A or In Rainbows. Even though I'm afraid it's not possible, I have, since early high school, fantasized and dreamed of becoming a successful, innovative musician. I play a little guitar, but my doubtfulness of becoming a successful musician causes me to delay practicing guitar, which leads to me losing my faith in accomplishing my dream. I also have a lack of education and resources in terms of the technical standpoint of being a musician (I don't even know how to change the strings of a guitar!), and when I see my Facebook friends posting videos of themselves shredding like animals on the guitar, I can't help but feel disappointed in myself. I feel that it's too late for me to develop instrument playing skills (I'm 17.) Also, my close friends at school aren't as "artsy" as I am, and it really bugs me because I love talking about my interests to people with similar interests, but I don't have access to other people like me. I used to sing at my arts camp in musicals and once at a rock band night with friends, and the latter made me realize that being a musician and performing would make me feel the most satisfied. When I performed, the crowd (most of them my friends) seemed to like it, but I didn't get any special compliments on my voice in general (although I didn't hear anything negative, either), so I am unsure if even my singing voice is at all good. I basically think I can only keep a tune. So yeah, as much as I want to be a musician, my own self confidence is crushing that opportunity for me. I write some poetry, but I never share it with anyone. I also make some art, mainly abstract things involving geometric faces and water-coloring. In terms of literature, I have always had a hard time reading full books, mainly because of my ADD. I wish I could read books fully through, but it's hard for me to remain in focus, and my parents always criticize me for not reading enough. However, I love reading poems and analyzing them. I also read news articles on the internet daily, so I don't know if that counts. I also heavily admire some cinema and tv shows for the themes, script, acting, and cinematography. With every form of artwork, I always try to analyze it on multiple levels, if that makes sense. And while I am interested in various forms of art, writing and making music is the dream that I have that appeals to me the most. My family doesn't know anything about my desire to become a musician, and they think I want to be a music journalist. While that is better for me than an office job, making music would make me happier.
I see the desire in searching what it really means, beyond what you see on the surface. I see the tendency to look at things in many different perspectives and generate multiple possible underlying meanings, without confining yourself to one. That sounds Ne to me.

- I find politics and current events more interesting than a lot kids my age do. I always try to look at things with multiple perspectives to see what I truly feel is right. When I debate with other kids about issues we don't agree on, I am terrible at it because I instinctively attempt to be as respectful as possible to them, and I try to avoid insulting their beliefs. I also have a really hard time explaining my beliefs thoroughly and quickly when they're questioned by others, even though I'm very informed and knowledgeable about them. It's easier for me to just write and elaborate on my beliefs in an essay than to simply and instantaneously say it on the spot.

- While I usually try find the best in people, I have a clear dislike against most institutions. I hate the mainstream media, because it idolizes flashy celebrity culture and ignores the real issues. I hate most major corporations, because they discard the well being of billions of people and the importance of a non-polluted earth, all for money. They have influenced America so much that I personally think the corporations now have more control over the country than the government. And I hate most of the government (the U.S.), because they allowed this corporate takeover to happen, they are stubborn and refuse to compromise with the people or the opposing parties (ahem GOP), and because they mostly only care for their giant paychecks. (Although, I do support Bernie Sanders 2016.)
Dig deep to generate multiple perspectives (Ne) and decide what you feel is right (Fi). Fi/Ne dynamics if you ask me.

COUGH Citizens United and McCutcheon COUGH

I have to agree with you on the corporations' influence thing though. Also I support Bernie 2016.
Will stop at this point, since this is not a place for political debate and all that. Haha yet I couldn't resist blurting out since I concur...

So I see more Fi/Ne. That would be INFP.
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I don't find her particularly Ne, I agree with her thoughts (most of them actually) but, at least in my case, is more due to Fi.

I always try to look at things with multiple perspectives to see what I truly feel is right
This seems Fi in my opinion.
First, the writer is male! :D With that aside...

I see a theme of generating different interpretations without confining himself to one, which I believe is Ne. I also tried to pick up some signals of tertiary function, but for some reason I am having hard time doing so.

I agree that the part you quoted is Fi.
I read somewhere that NT/NF's are more likely to be diagnosed with ADD/ADHD sometime in their life. Sensing types are more aware of the world around them, hence their ability to pay attention more to details and their surroundings.
I see you more as an intuitive type... that would be myself as well. I can hardly handle details and describe myself as a global/picture thinker, not to mention I also have very bad anxiety (probably has to do with NP's and how we're commonly skeptical) and ADD.
I see the desire in searching what it really means, beyond what you see on the surface. I see the tendency to look at things in many different perspectives and generate multiple possible underlying meanings, without confining yourself to one. That sounds Ne to me.
I use my Se to take information from the world and then i use my Ni to dig deeper on what i see and look for what it means to me.
For example i was discussing this thing on another thread: in my projects i always try to create more than one 'design' let's call them, with minor variations. I think about all the possible solutions but i do this because i'm indecisive and i need to find the perfect one. I stick with some ideas, i go with them, i change them a bit until i'm satisfied. And just because i look at things from different perspectives it doesn't mean it's Ne. For me it's Se+Ni(+Fi). Somethimes it's why you do a thing, what is your objective. I like to broaden my perspective and i always look for what lies behind things, but i'm not infp. I'm not saying he is definitely ISFP, or he's absolutely not INFP, i'm not that good at typing. Just wanted to point out that just because a person looks at things from various perspectives it doesn't mean it's Ne. Like if someone is talkative, it doesnt mean he's extroverted. You have to look at how the functions work with each other and their stacking.
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I don't find her particularly Ne, I agree with her thoughts (most of them actually) but, at least in my case, is more due to Fi.
No doubt the dominant function would have the most influence on a person's worldview.

This seems Fi in my opinion.
Its Fi-Ne. The functions don't operate in a vacuum. Plus he already knows he's Fi-dominant, so differentiating which auxiliary is determines whether its INFP or ISFP.
I use my Se to take information from the world and then i use my Ni to dig deeper on what i see and look for what it means to me.
For example i was discussing this thing on another thread: in my projects i always try to create more than one 'design' let's call them, with minor variations. I think about all the possible solutions but i do this because i'm indecisive and i need to find the perfect one. I stick with some ideas, i go with them, i change them a bit until i'm satisfied. And just because i look at things from different perspectives it doesn't mean it's Ne. For me it's Se+Ni(+Fi). Somethimes it's why you do a thing, what is your objective. I like to broaden my perspective and i always look for what lies behind things, but i'm not infp. I'm not saying he is definitely ISFP, or he's absolutely not INFP, i'm not that good at typing. Just wanted to point out that just because a person looks at things from various perspectives it doesn't mean it's Ne. Like if someone is talkative, it doesnt mean he's extroverted. You have to look at how the functions work with each other and their stacking.
Yes of course, one can behave certain way for different reasons. But note that in my previous post (not the quoted one) I actually went a little further, in the sense that I qualified a little bit more about why I thought Ne>Se. Perhaps I should have added that a bit but I just flew off there. The impression I got was more emphasis on the desire to see what lies beyond, and without restricting oneself. That's why I said it's more Ne. Se+Ni combo would take all those sensory details in, let the details sink in, and come up with one theme that unifies the whole thing. That's not the dynamics I see here, though I admit that I was struggling to pick up some clues on Si.
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