It's well known that ENTPs are among the most introverted of Extroverts. When in doubt, you're probably an Extrovert, and that's what I think for you. I'm a pretty introverted ENTP, as well, and I know there are many others on this site like us.
There certainly is. I actually made a group for us on this site...Thanks for that clarification. I have found that it is more the nature of the party that would determine whether I want to stay longer when it begins to wrap up. I wonder if there is a larger group of people who are in the middle with I and E, but have strong N,T and P tendencies.
That's true, I mean who the hell would want to stick around at a baby shower? But I think what the folks here are trying to get at is that for introverts, they can be having the time of their lives with friends, but they'll still end up kind of worn out. Tired. Though maybe in a good way.Thanks for that clarification. I have found that it is more the nature of the party that would determine whether I want to stay longer when it begins to wrap up. I wonder if there is a larger group of people who are in the middle with I and E, but have strong N,T and P tendencies.
From the way you describe yourself and the way you write I think you might be ENTP.Hi guys,
I am new to personality cafe and have been trying to figure out my personality type. When I first took the test, five years ago, I came out as an INTP. After that first test I figured out how it worked and cannot take it reliably because I can answer to get whatever letters I want. There are several reasons for my doubt as to whether I am an INTP or an ENTP. First, I enjoy socializing and get a charge from it when I talk about ideas. No matter the group size if it has that content then I have fun. However, if it turns to small talk and short conversations are encouraged then I get drained very quickly and need to get out. At home I can get energized by playing chess online, reading, listening to music etc. But, after a certain point, I soon begin to get drained in those activities as well. I enjoy debating with people, but I often take a less adversarial position in it. I have the view that it should be for the benefit for both and serve to arrive at truth. In fact, I love playing devils advocate because it lets me think about various possibilities and lead me to making a decision on ideas that I have been mulling over in my solitude. I think this could partly be due to the fact that the test questions are not effective enough. It could also be that having 16 types is too arbitrary and even if 50 types are made it would still be too arbitrary. Not to mention the unnecessary complexity of adding more types and identifying the differences. So in the interest of pegging someone into a certain sandbox, would I be a weird ENTP or INTP?
Thanks for reading and I look forward to some thoughts on this.
That comment struck a tone, as one of my buddies loves to dance with me around subjects that are seemingly unrelated to the casual observer. I believe that he is an INTP or ENTP as well. My sister gets irritated to no end. She loves being able to figure people out as an INFJ. However, she quickly gets tired of trying to understand me and my random connecting of events/ideasIn conversation you might also see intuition dominants rapidly jumping from one subject to seemingly unrelated other. It is because their dominant and well-developed intuitive function has already formed connections from whatever the subject was to a couple dozen other subjects. To an INTP conversation with an ENTP will probably feel somewhat confusing, muddy, a run-on of a lot of things together. While the clarity in conversation that INTP needs will seem frustrating and unnecessary to an ENTP.
Drained or bored?Hi guys,
However, if it turns to small talk and short conversations are encouraged then I get drained very quickly and need to get out.
I can sit around and refine an idea, or anything that I do, 20+ times until it's good enough. It makes me feel good, which is why I get energy from it. It sounds like you get your energy from creating and sharing your ideas. I like to do that as well, but not as much as an E. You also have Ti, and like some refinement activities but you eventually get bored of them.Introverted functions don't create content, extroverted functions do.
Ne Ti: Creates an idea and figures out how to piece it together with Ti.
Ti Ne: Looks at an idea with Ti and comes up with an idea for how it works with Ne.
So if an Ne dom creates 3 connections and then looks at the idea with Ti then goes back to Ne and repeat. A Ti dom would first look at an idea then create 1 connection and go back to Ti and repeat. This is why ENTPs have more content to share with the world and is why they're extroverted in converse to INTP.
Thank you for that Andrea. I will try to be more specific. I noticed that the way I learn concepts (especially math) were more pattern based. Memorizing the formulas and applying a step by step approach was a difficult task. For me, I learned by playing with a formula and learning how doing different changes to the equation would affect the answer. I used this play to relate to how the logic worked in the rules we were supposed to memorize( I often came up with my own steps to solve the problem rather than a precooked way of thinking about the problem). I took a more heuristic approach to problems and this helped me make connections and improved my understanding far more than the methods taught at school/uni. Also, I am far more interested in how people make decisions and interact than understanding basic physical laws. As for learning, I often would get into one subject only to see that I needed to learn about a separate field to improve my understanding of others. This led to several switches in my concentration from History to Political Science to Economics before I finally decided that I should just stick with one (Economics) and learn other things(like applying psychology to economics) in my free time. I loved integrating these into the overall picture of how we as humans respond to legal, social, or personal rules (follow them, don't follow them, change them)."devil's advocate"
tell us about yourself, not about the ENTP. all NTs love playing devil's advocate, and too often i hear it drop when people try to convince themselves they're ExTx. tell us about yourself, bar nothing, and we'll decide if it's relevant or not.