I grew up in the United States. I have learned to cut out the arrogance, sarcasm and bitterness because it is not useful at all ( also slightly unhealthy for your mental wellbeing and in maintaining an accurate view of your abilities). Also, the poster wanted a more objective sample of my experiences, so I decided to tell it as I saw it. There is no point to being arrogant and I have wounded enough people with the actions mentioned above. It might be helpful to know that I have a close family member that is INFJ and she has really helped me to be aware of others and how my actions can really affect them emotionally (she invested a large part of herself trying to get me to acknowledge my weaknesses on the feeling side). Emotions are scary for me as I used to shut them out since I felt that they were of a lesser essence than logic. Even 6 months ago you would have found me to be the typical arrogant, bitter, and sarcastic NTP. I loved to one up people and show where they made no sense. I used this to inflate my ego and self-importance since I felt that everyone else was illogical and lacking in the ability to think for themselves (such as questioning religion, social norms, morality, politics, etc). However, I have learned to tone it down and save it for a select group of friends that can handle the sarcasm and actually enjoy battling over ideas. Hard to say though, I will look up INFJ.i read it fully. thanks for typing it out
INFJ is another strong possibility. like, if i read it cold, without the NTP planted, i'd say definite INFJ. even though your behavior is consistent with ENTP, your writing style doesn't hold strong for that at all. i didn't detect any xNTP bitterness, sarcasm or arrogance. you were clean and straight throughout the thread. what country did you grow up in?
Am I an INTP or a weird ENTP
Hi guys,
I am new to personality cafe and have been trying to figure out my personality type. When I first took the test, five years ago, I came out as an INTP. After that first test I figured out how it worked and cannot take it reliably because I can answer to get whatever letters I want. There are several reasons for my doubt as to whether I am an INTP or an ENTP. First, I enjoy socializing and get a charge from it when I talk about ideas. No matter the group size if it has that content then I have fun. However, if it turns to small talk and short conversations are encouraged then I get drained very quickly and need to get out. At home I can get energized by playing chess online, reading, listening to music etc. But, after a certain point, I soon begin to get drained in those activities as well. I enjoy debating with people, but I often take a less adversarial position in it. I have the view that it should be for the benefit for both and serve to arrive at truth. In fact, I love playing devils advocate because it lets me think about various possibilities and lead me to making a decision on ideas that I have been mulling over in my solitude. I think this could partly be due to the fact that the test questions are not effective enough. It could also be that having 16 types is too arbitrary and even if 50 types are made it would still be too arbitrary. Not to mention the unnecessary complexity of adding more types and identifying the differences. So in the interest of pegging someone into a certain sandbox, would I be a weird ENTP or INTP?
Thanks for reading and I look forward to some thoughts on this.
I am new to personality cafe and have been trying to figure out my personality type. When I first took the test, five years ago, I came out as an INTP. After that first test I figured out how it worked and cannot take it reliably because I can answer to get whatever letters I want. There are several reasons for my doubt as to whether I am an INTP or an ENTP. First, I enjoy socializing and get a charge from it when I talk about ideas. No matter the group size if it has that content then I have fun. However, if it turns to small talk and short conversations are encouraged then I get drained very quickly and need to get out. At home I can get energized by playing chess online, reading, listening to music etc. But, after a certain point, I soon begin to get drained in those activities as well. I enjoy debating with people, but I often take a less adversarial position in it. I have the view that it should be for the benefit for both and serve to arrive at truth. In fact, I love playing devils advocate because it lets me think about various possibilities and lead me to making a decision on ideas that I have been mulling over in my solitude. I think this could partly be due to the fact that the test questions are not effective enough. It could also be that having 16 types is too arbitrary and even if 50 types are made it would still be too arbitrary. Not to mention the unnecessary complexity of adding more types and identifying the differences. So in the interest of pegging someone into a certain sandbox, would I be a weird ENTP or INTP?
Thanks for reading and I look forward to some thoughts on this.
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this desire to integrate data, build models out of the pieces you learned about, is a characteristic of an N-dominant type (ENxP or INxJ)...I loved integrating these into the overall picture of how we as humans respond to legal, social, or personal rules (follow them, don't follow them, change them).
never really got this ENTPs are extraverted introverts idea
I hang out with a lot of ESFPs, and they're better at small talk than I am, but I get along well with them because they like to go out on a whim, call a few guys and get a softball or basketball game going, and like me, will do anything to avoid spending the night at home watching a movie or something, it's not a difference in extraversion, but empathy
I hang out with a lot of ESFPs, and they're better at small talk than I am, but I get along well with them because they like to go out on a whim, call a few guys and get a softball or basketball game going, and like me, will do anything to avoid spending the night at home watching a movie or something, it's not a difference in extraversion, but empathy
it was not only the lack of arrogance, but the lack of humor or tangents or whim, pos or neg, that led me to an INFJ conclusion. an ENTP under the age of like 45 would be offended that people were so sensitive to their sense of humor, but maybe grudgingly conform. an INFJ would sincerely concerned about their effect on people. in addition, "scary", "wounded", "large part of herself", "really affect them" ring strong INFJ, rarely finding themselves into ENTP communication in the same context. your call though.
Could be, many of those words are just a mirror of what she said to me (minus the "scary" part). I am revolted by the idea that I could actually be a feeler, when I spent so many years putting logic on the forefront in my way of thought (and suppressed emotion). That would have been a sad state, as an INFJ in denial. I have been told that I am the most "idiosyncratic" person they have ever met. As I don't believe in objective morals or the purported importance of humanity (Lord Byron's Darkness is one of my favorite poems), I believe that politics is just a force to change the rules of the game for those who have an interest in power, and society is bred to be de facto peasants for those who control the factors of production (whether government or privately owned). Basically, I hate doing what everyone else does unless I can calculate that it has the highest net positive effect for me. I do know one thing, I have been changing and the INTP personality seems like O.J. Simpson's glove for me now (could it be that working on FE through the help of an INFJ is making me aware of a deficiency?).it was not only the lack of arrogance, but the lack of humor or tangents or whim, pos or neg, that led me to an INFJ conclusion. an ENTP under the age of like 45 would be offended that people were so sensitive to their sense of humor, but maybe grudgingly conform. an INFJ would sincerely concerned about their effect on people. in addition, "scary", "wounded", "large part of herself", "really affect them" ring strong INFJ, rarely finding themselves into ENTP communication in the same context. your call though.
you're converting me.
(and hi, Callie! where you been?)
Hi Alfreda !! How are you?
You know, I am a random ENTP so I show up sometimes and disappears sometimes.....
well i had doubts myself
i am INTP but i could be ENTP according to keys2cognition test
i usually like to share ideas and i am excited about them - its not so charming for me to just keep them in my - i like arguing with people
plus i'm talkative more then i'm a listener
i love going out and i always wanna stay longer, love sarcastic jokes with friend and having a good laugh with them - i mostly talk through joking
i prefer company always but i can handle being alone even it is not that fun
and i dont think thats smth that Is do XD
but there are many similarities with INTPs - like we have a hard time expressing warm feelings for others and i'm often absent-minded and analytic - i see pleasure in thinking while on my own but i like talking with people about it even more
plus i had some bad experiences with kids when i was a child so it made me have some fear towards people
even i was when i was a child over self-confident (strikes me now sometimes as well)
but in spite that - i still wanna talk to people when i come to a big party XD i just dont find siting in corner my thing - so i always find some way XD and i always end up opening myself completely XD
its like i have I and E moments
i am INTP but i could be ENTP according to keys2cognition test
i usually like to share ideas and i am excited about them - its not so charming for me to just keep them in my - i like arguing with people
plus i'm talkative more then i'm a listener
i love going out and i always wanna stay longer, love sarcastic jokes with friend and having a good laugh with them - i mostly talk through joking
i prefer company always but i can handle being alone even it is not that fun
and i dont think thats smth that Is do XD
but there are many similarities with INTPs - like we have a hard time expressing warm feelings for others and i'm often absent-minded and analytic - i see pleasure in thinking while on my own but i like talking with people about it even more
plus i had some bad experiences with kids when i was a child so it made me have some fear towards people
even i was when i was a child over self-confident (strikes me now sometimes as well)
but in spite that - i still wanna talk to people when i come to a big party XD i just dont find siting in corner my thing - so i always find some way XD and i always end up opening myself completely XD
its like i have I and E moments
This is me. If I don't see any promise of mental stimulation (and I can read people well), I clam up and look really quiet and reserved. I just don't want to engage because I know it'll bore me, and then I'll be trapped in a small-talk prison of awkwardness.Hi guys,
I am new to personality cafe and have been trying to figure out my personality type. When I first took the test, five years ago, I came out as an INTP. After that first test I figured out how it worked and cannot take it reliably because I can answer to get whatever letters I want. There are several reasons for my doubt as to whether I am an INTP or an ENTP. First, I enjoy socializing and get a charge from it when I talk about ideas. No matter the group size if it has that content then I have fun. However, if it turns to small talk and short conversations are encouraged then I get drained very quickly and need to get out. At home I can get energized by playing chess online, reading, listening to music etc. But, after a certain point, I soon begin to get drained in those activities as well. I enjoy debating with people, but I often take a less adversarial position in it. I have the view that it should be for the benefit for both and serve to arrive at truth. In fact, I love playing devils advocate because it lets me think about various possibilities and lead me to making a decision on ideas that I have been mulling over in my solitude. I think this could partly be due to the fact that the test questions are not effective enough. It could also be that having 16 types is too arbitrary and even if 50 types are made it would still be too arbitrary. Not to mention the unnecessary complexity of adding more types and identifying the differences. So in the interest of pegging someone into a certain sandbox, would I be a weird ENTP or INTP?
Thanks for reading and I look forward to some thoughts on this.
I understand that we have to develop are ability to small-talk to a degree for smoothing out social relationships, making people feel like you're one of them, and generally putting them at ease, but it gets tiring to our type.
Before long, we'll need to find something that challenges our creativity.
I just came to the answer, youre an XNTP.
And why do you need a label anyways?, also what do you prefer to be an INTP or a ENTP? (maybe the constant introversion that you "suffered" for 4 years and the "no-friends" thing make you to desire beeing an extroverted?)
And why do you need a label anyways?, also what do you prefer to be an INTP or a ENTP? (maybe the constant introversion that you "suffered" for 4 years and the "no-friends" thing make you to desire beeing an extroverted?)
I posted this myself, but I wanted to ask here:
I've taken several personality tests and have viewed several sites which attempt to show the difference between INTP and ENTP personality types. I usually get INTP as a result from the quizzes, but I identify more with the idea of being an ambivert or shy extro/avert than being an introvert. I've become really hung up on this and for some reason have decided that I need to know which one I am, so if you have any tips or questions to help me figure this out, I'd really appreciate it.
Side note:
I'm not even 100% sure whether I'm either of these, since I usually overthink these personality quizzes and therefore don't have a ton of luck with them.
Thanks in advance!
I've taken several personality tests and have viewed several sites which attempt to show the difference between INTP and ENTP personality types. I usually get INTP as a result from the quizzes, but I identify more with the idea of being an ambivert or shy extro/avert than being an introvert. I've become really hung up on this and for some reason have decided that I need to know which one I am, so if you have any tips or questions to help me figure this out, I'd really appreciate it.
Side note:
I'm not even 100% sure whether I'm either of these, since I usually overthink these personality quizzes and therefore don't have a ton of luck with them.
Thanks in advance!
I'm a pretty introverted ENTP as well.
Under normal circumstances, I'm more extroverted, but due to outside circumstances I've been hermiting it up. It's not healthy either because I never feel good about it. My head gets cloudier than usual and I feel bad for 'wasting' my time. Not to be a sad sally, but I'm a bit depressed/anxious at the moment.
To clarify, I had someone put it like this before:
Extroversion isn't tied to social interactions. While social extroversion may be indicative of extroversion preferences, it is not a complete indicator. Extroverts get charged not only from social extroversion but also environmental extroversion, such as tinkering with a device/object or exploring a new concept or idea. Novelty seeking behavior is also extroversion manifesting itself in a different way. Shutting down at a party after the novelty wears off isn't a sign of introversion, it's a sign of boredom. Like when you get bored of exploring a new idea: you drop it.
To summarize: I think what's being discussed here is a lack of interest rather than introversion.
Under normal circumstances, I'm more extroverted, but due to outside circumstances I've been hermiting it up. It's not healthy either because I never feel good about it. My head gets cloudier than usual and I feel bad for 'wasting' my time. Not to be a sad sally, but I'm a bit depressed/anxious at the moment.
To clarify, I had someone put it like this before:
Extroversion isn't tied to social interactions. While social extroversion may be indicative of extroversion preferences, it is not a complete indicator. Extroverts get charged not only from social extroversion but also environmental extroversion, such as tinkering with a device/object or exploring a new concept or idea. Novelty seeking behavior is also extroversion manifesting itself in a different way. Shutting down at a party after the novelty wears off isn't a sign of introversion, it's a sign of boredom. Like when you get bored of exploring a new idea: you drop it.
To summarize: I think what's being discussed here is a lack of interest rather than introversion.
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