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I've noticed I find it extremely hard to pick things in regard to say college or careers. I seem to constantly be changing my mind and direction.
One of the problems is I don't really have a passion or anything I want to do I just don't know so until I actually try them out.
This year I was doing IT and business then decided I hated IT even though I thought for ages I wanted to study both IT and Business. Then I decided to switch to just business as I didn't like IT enough still unsure what I want completely but it's the only thing that interests me enough to study it. I don't really have a passion.

This just seems like a typical "me" I've always been like that so I feel like I'm going to be one of those people who are constantly changing their career.

Are any other ISTPs like this? or had similar experiences?
 
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Likewise. I got one year into my computing degree and even though I passed this year, I have decided to drop out as i found it boring/too hard/not interesting enough to continue. No point continuing to do something that was making me feel miserable and unfulfilled, so I got the hell out of there... Anything Tech Support related was easy as fuck though.

I'm now looking for some sort of skill/apprenticeship I can learn and then take anywhere. However, now I'm having trouble figuring out exactly what id like to specialise in. Something that's the complete opposite of sitting in front of a computer all day, as I've realised that lifestyle isnt for me.

I've never had an idol, hero, or dreamed of a specific profession. Even when I was little. I wonder if I'll ever discover something and think "wow THAT is what I want to do!"
 
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I've done a hell of a lot actually and im only 20. luckily, I see you're from England too so you should understand everything im about to say here -

I finished year 11 and did a year in 6th form. I did business, PE, English and Hospitality & Catering. Passed, but I didnt continue onto second year (year 13) as I was sick of the school, the drama, the bitchy girls, the whole lot. So I went to a local community college and did a year of Health & Fitness and passed that year. I then decided to give IT a try. Passed that, then went on to do computing at degree level. Passed that year (which takes us up to this summer) but as stated in my above comment, was miserable in doing so and realised it wasnt what I wanted to do anymore.



I also worked in a restaurant for a while. Hated it.


So, yeah I've done quite a lot of stuff. I still dont think I'm any closer to figuring out what I want to do with my life, but at least I have a lot of experience, especially with all different kinds of people from all different kinds of backgrounds.
 
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Strange a few of us have all tried out IT degrees and hated it I found it boring and too logical or maths orientated and I hate maths.
The things I would do are hard to get into or I've left it too late to pursue a career in it.
 

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This may have to do with tertiary Ni. In the dominant position it tends to act as a kind of compass, a sense of just knowing where you're going in life and setting out to accomplish it with the assistance of Fe/Te. But if you're younger and Ni's not well developed, we have a tendency to wander a bit before we figure it out (and the Ti-Se combination means that we're indecisive a lot, especially when another option presents itself--I switched majors three times before going back to my first choice).

I always had an idea in the back of my mind what career path I wanted to pursue, but due to Ti and mental sloth courtesy my Enneagram type, I had a hard time putting things into motion. I think the key with a career path is to figure out what you're good at and enjoy doing, and hone those skills. Getting up the motivation though, is tough.
 

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This may have to do with tertiary Ni. In the dominant position it tends to act as a kind of compass, a sense of just knowing where you're going in life and setting out to accomplish it with the assistance of Fe/Te. But if you're younger and Ni's not well developed, we have a tendency to wander a bit before we figure it out (and the Ti-Se combination means that we're indecisive a lot, especially when another option presents itself--I switched majors three times before going back to my first choice).
I always had an idea in the back of my mind what career path I wanted to pursue, but due to Ti and mental sloth courtesy my Enneagram type, I had a hard time putting things into motion. I think the key with a career path is to figure out what you're good at and enjoy doing, and hone those skills. Getting up the motivation though, is tough.
I agree. This happens to me often (I'm actually dealing with college majors right now, too). This is how I think about it:

With INFJs, their Ni is like: "This is my vision of future!" and their Se goes: "Okay, cool. Maybe I'll do it and make it reality."

With ISTPs, our Se is like: "This is what I'm doing right now. It's kinda fun." and our Ni goes: "I guess this is my vision of the future?"

Completely sucks because you can be penalized by too much indecisiveness.
 

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I agree. This happens to me often (I'm actually dealing with college majors right now, too). This is how I think about it:

With INFJs, their Ni is like: "This is my vision of future!" and their Se goes: "Okay, cool. Maybe I'll do it and make it reality."

With ISTPs, our Se is like: "This is what I'm doing right now. It's kinda fun." and our Ni goes: "I guess this is my vision of the future?"

Completely sucks because you can be penalized by too much indecisiveness.
wow that's a pretty good description. though my Ni isn't exactly like that maybe. I kind of take it more seriously or something. so I have a vague vision somewhere but I don't pay attention to it most of the time, which is too bad. when there's a concrete way / opportunity I can take to get closer to my vision I will take it though and will be very persistent. it's just oh, complex and far, yeah life is complex too :p


to OP: yeah I found it very hard to pick a direction for career when I was 18. then a year later the thought just kicked in as to what I wanted. eureka? so then I started on that path right away, it was like, when I made the decision, I had one day to the deadline to submit the admission papers. I did. then I studied sorta, then I got in (lots of competition to get in!) then went and aced it all. near the end of my studies, I got into another opportunity, meaning an entirely different career path. now I am seeing yet another one. so I do have to accommodate all this. fun, uh. :)
 

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I've never had an idol, hero, or dreamed of a specific profession. Even when I was little. I wonder if I'll ever discover something and think "wow THAT is what I want to do!"
same here and i'm 31. i gave up the thought of finding "my way" and decided to do something i can imagine doing for 5-10 years without wanting to kill myself and live my everchanging interests/passions in my spare time. in 5-10years i might change paths nonetheless, because everything gets boring after some time and boredom is my nemesis.
 

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Strange a few of us have all tried out IT degrees and hated it I found it boring and too logical or maths orientated and I hate maths.
I'm in IT.

I got started without a degree, first doing websites for fun and eventually got a job as a web developer. Loved the process to get there, loved the job.

Years later, I went back to school to get an official degree in computer engineering and I hated it!

Hands-on learning was great fun. Academic learning was a great (and ultimately useless) bore.

An apprenticeship/internship of sorts in whatever you think seems fun might suit you better?

But yes, if I hadn't "fallen" into this line of work, I wouldn't have known what to do with my life. This is soooo true:

Elicit said:
With ISTPs, our Se is like: "This is what I'm doing right now. It's kinda fun." and our Ni goes: "I guess this is my vision of the future?"
 

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Starting an electrical engineering apprenticeship tomorrow, the first year is 80% classes though, snore. If I have the will to get through that to the practical stuff I think its a job I wont hate. Also did IT Support in college, hated it, so dull.
 

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In high school they put a lot of emphasis on picking what you wanted to do with your life. My attitude about that was that it would be a waste of time for me to commit to something that far off. My interests would change, I'd get bored. And they have so many times I can't even keep track. After two years in any job I'm burning to move onto something else.

I have mad career envy when it comes to Josh Gates. If I did what he does, I think I would stick with it for a long time. I remember when I was a lot younger and was asked what I could be even if its not realistic, I said 'an explorer.' Thats why I almost joined the military until I got a taste of what it would be like day to day, being controlled by complete retards who had rank just for being there and hoop jumping long enough.

I have traveled around a lot, lived in a lot of places, and still get wanderlust. By now I at least know that I could never force myself to work in an office environment again. I tried it for a long time, thinking I just needed to suck it up and deal with it like every other adult. I really can't though.
 

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if superpowers were real... that's how id earn a living
 

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Sounds exactly like me. No idea what my plans, ideas, values, etc will be a week from now.

The one "plan" (if one could even call it that) that seems to hold my interest is to find some bullshit, fresh-out-of-college job and pay off my debt asap. Then save a little more and take off. Try to find temporary, hands-on jobs...maybe something like working on an organic farm, having room and board paid for plus a little extra $. When I get bored, I take my savings and find another farm/job/state/country/group of people.

I like the idea of living minimally and if I could continually expand my experience and skills, I will be happy I believe. Don't know if/when/how I will settle down in the future.
 

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Welcome to my life.

After I completed high school, I studied economics (because that's what me and my classmates were more or less expected to do) for two years at the university. I barely passed the first year, failed the second year, did the second year again and failed once more.

So I quit, spent one year pretending to look for a job. My parents were pressuring me to do something but I didn't know what.

After that year I went to the university again, this time to study English. Three years later it was a success, as I got my BA or whatever the equivalent is. Then, since I didn't want to become a part of the educational system and wasn't good enough in my third language to be a translator, I started a Master's degree course in Computational Linguistics (I always wanted to program software anyway). But I didn't really like the theoretical part so I never *really* enjoyed it.

Even then I didn't know what kind of job I wanted to do in that field so I sent resumes to all the companies that didn't seem too bad, and I got hired a couple days ago.

Such is the life of an ISTP. Sorry, guys.
 

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Studying mechanical engineering at university. I'm not a fan of theoretical, team or presentational work but I like the practical work/Logic involved and can't really see myself doing anything else so I embrace the challenge and get on with it.
 

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I went to college, first for creative writing, then I got it in my head I wanted to be a therapist with my own practice.
For me, this was an instinctive urge, based in a long passion for self-betterment and seeing others successful and happy.
Unfortunately, after taking psych classes, I felt it wasn't scientific enough and I didn't like it.
I got my degree and have never used it.
I became an entrepreneur, which I really should have done from the beginning.
I always had money making schemes as a child, would sing on street corners or try to get jobs in shops when I was supposed to be outside playing. Learned Tarot cards so I could give readings if I fell on hard times, etc.
Money.
I've always loved it.
Anything I learn, anything I know, I always think "how can I make money off of this?"
I can't seem to clearly explain that I don't have a plan, even when I get a plan, plans change, something came along that worked, and now I have a business.
 

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My plan is to always keep my plans flexible. Despite my rather academic degree (math) I never got into a field that interested me. I ended up driving buses, then trucks. It works for me because I can earn quite a bit of money and spend relatively little of it. I lived the last 2.5 years on savings. Now my resources are depleted so I'm headed back to trucking for a while. Current plan is to drive for 6 months or so, go back to Europe for a visit in the spring, and then either enter a monastery or switch to another trucking company that has a better hometime plan. (Hometime = time for an ISTP truck driver to have other interests and a life.) Or maybe after a while I could get into the more logistical end of the industry. I could maybe work in an office if I were doing something I enjoyed. But that's all flexible. Who knows what tomorrow will bring.
 
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