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@Kitty23
Do you create artwork/write a novel for others or yourself?
- Well if i do it i do it because i enjoy drawing? I dont give it to other people if thats what you're asking. I might show it other people though. if its good.

Do you care more about maintaining group harmony and generally follow the group's values or follow you're OWN strict moral code and all hell breaks lose if someone violates a value of yours? (However, a Fi user can resemble a Fe user if one of their values is group harmony)
I dont know i rarely experience emotions and i dont understand people who are sensitive and emotional.

Do you empathize by feeling/absorbing the person's raw emotions or putting yourself in their shoes first?
i dont feel emphaty for them, i just want to fix the situation. i never think how id feel in their shoes instead i see the problem and come up with a solution.

I follow my own moral code but nothing would happen if someone violated it. and im not as strict about it as for example my sister (probably INTP).

I hate conflicts (problems that aren't fixed) so i guess i want the harmony?

So i think its Fi.

Are your values objective or subjective? Could you provide an example for how your value/s are either objective or subjective?
Doesn't everybody has objective AND subjective values? i have more objective values i think. if i needed money and sell stuff i wouldn't keep something which has personal value to me just because it would be "sad" to give it away.

is that objective value? idk




and the rest.. im Ni Fi Te Se soo.. INTJ i guess


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What makes you think i use Ti Ne Fe Si?
 

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i dont feel emphaty for them, i just want to fix the situation. i never think how id feel in their shoes instead i see the problem and come up with a solution.
- If you don't put yourself in their shoes then I would think Fe or maybe low Fi.

I follow my own moral code but nothing would happen if someone violated it. and im not as strict about it as for example my sister (probably INTP).
- Actually Fi users tend to be more strict about values than Fe users. So I would guess your sister is a Fi user and you the Fe user.

I hate conflicts (problems that aren't fixed) so i guess i want the harmony?
- makes me think Fe

So I am wondering if you are a low Fe user and not an INTJ.

Here is the difference between Ni and Ne.

1.While in a forest do you think of the fractal patterns, the wide range of possibilities in the forest, how this forest is part of the ecosystem and is affected by pollution from the city... (Ne) or Recognize that the forest is deeply symbolic of all of life in its interconnectedness and constant recycling and growth and foresees that this forest will soon be torn down for a housing development... (Ni)?
2.Do you have an explosion of ideas, symbols, and possibilities (Ne)? Or do you find one idea and build on it over time (Ni)
3.Are you more about possibilities and randomness (Ne)? Or insights and purpose (Ni)?
4.Is your speech scatterbrained/about multiple topics (Ne) Or more streamlined/ talk about one thing at a time (Ni)?
5.Do you want to go out and try all of your ideas (Ne)? Or be selective with your ideas (Ni)?
6.Is your thought process non-linear (Ne) or linear (Ni)?
7.Do you brainstorm out loud (Ne) or keep ideas to yourself (Ni)
8.Do you focus on “what if’s” or “what could be”? (Ne) Or having an “aha moment” (Ni)?
9.Do you find broad shallow symbols and patterns (Ne) or deep symbols, and patterns (Ni)?
10.You are at a park. Are you more (Ne) sees the possibilities of the park. Look at those two people. You can tell they’re not “together” anymore, but just hanging out for the kid’s sake. See their body language? How many rides are in this park? Do you think anyone ever died here? I think they should put a new ride in this space. Call it the Haunted House of Horrors, and have Dead Presidents in it. You know, they could put up an entire haunted SECTION of the park. That would be awesome. Who do I call to pitch that idea? Stay away from the guy in the red hat. He gives me vibes. Ooh, you know, I could write a story about a murder in a theme park! He could die because the Tilt a Whirl malfunctioned. No, no, because the Tower of Terror ride didn’t stop, it crashed the elevator to the bottom floor! His sister did it. No, his uncle! No, the theme park guy, because he’s freakin’ insane.

Or (Ni)? You know what will happen before it happens. I’m going to take a step back, because that kid is going to spill his slushy all over – yup, there it goes. I know which ride I want to go on. I’ve thought about it all week. I’m going to have an awesome time on that ride. I’m going there first. Wait, there are other rides? I didn’t even notice! I was busy fixating on getting to the head of the line! Marsha better not go on that thing, she’ll hurl—yep, there she goes.
 

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- If you don't put yourself in their shoes then I would think Fe or maybe low Fi.

- Actually Fi users tend to be more strict about values than Fe users. So I would guess your sister is a Fi user and you the Fe user.

- makes me think Fe

So I am wondering if you are a low Fe user and not an INTJ.
As i said i rarely experience emotions so it would be pointless to ask myself how i would feel if i was the one crying, screaming, being happy or whatever. Because i have no idea how it feels. But i think i automatically know how i would HANDLE the situation. in a rational unemotional way.

In my "Type my twin sister thread" everybody told me after reading how strongly my sister reacts to someone violating her moral and principles is !totally! and typical for Fe users. I do have my principles and my own moral. I do think people who dont share it are stupid but i wouldn't necessarily end a !good! friendship just because i find out they think about something differently like my sister would.

Also as far as I know do Fe users think about whats best for the group/others and not themselves. I dont do that. I want to fix a conflict not because it bothers the other person but because it bothers me. its all about how i feel and not others.

Here is the difference between Ni and Ne.

1.While in a forest do you think of the fractal patterns, the wide range of possibilities in the forest, how this forest is part of the ecosystem and is affected by pollution from the city... (Ne) or Recognize that the forest is deeply symbolic of all of life in its interconnectedness and constant recycling and growth and foresees that this forest will soon be torn down for a housing development... (Ni)?
Ni
2.Do you have an explosion of ideas, symbols, and possibilities (Ne)? Or do you find one idea and build on it over time (Ni)
- Ni
3.Are you more about possibilities and randomness (Ne)? Or insights and purpose (Ni)?
Ni
4.Is your speech scatterbrained/about multiple topics (Ne) Or more streamlined/ talk about one thing at a time (Ni)?
Ni
5.Do you want to go out and try all of your ideas (Ne)? Or be selective with your ideas (Ni)?
Ni
6.Is your thought process non-linear (Ne) or linear (Ni)?
I dont understand that.
7.Do you brainstorm out loud (Ne) or keep ideas to yourself (Ni)
if my ideas dont effect other people then no. Ni
8.Do you focus on “what if’s” or “what could be”? (Ne) Or having an “aha moment” (Ni)?
Aha. Ni

9.Do you find broad shallow symbols and patterns (Ne) or deep symbols, and patterns (Ni)?
Id need an realize example do understand that.

10.You are at a park. Are you more (Ne) sees the possibilities of the park. Look at those two people. You can tell they’re not “together” anymore, but just hanging out for the kid’s sake. See their body language? How many rides are in this park? Do you think anyone ever died here? I think they should put a new ride in this space. Call it the Haunted House of Horrors, and have Dead Presidents in it. You know, they could put up an entire haunted SECTION of the park. That would be awesome. Who do I call to pitch that idea? Stay away from the guy in the red hat. He gives me vibes. Ooh, you know, I could write a story about a murder in a theme park! He could die because the Tilt a Whirl malfunctioned. No, no, because the Tower of Terror ride didn’t stop, it crashed the elevator to the bottom floor! His sister did it. No, his uncle! No, the theme park guy, because he’s freakin’ insane.

Or (Ni)? You know what will happen before it happens. I’m going to take a step back, because that kid is going to spill his slushy all over – yup, there it goes. I know which ride I want to go on. I’ve thought about it all week. I’m going to have an awesome time on that ride. I’m going there first. Wait, there are other rides? I didn’t even notice! I was busy fixating on getting to the head of the line! Marsha better not go on that thing, she’ll hurl—yep, there she goes.
- I dont jump from idea to idea like Ne seems but i dont think i would even recognize the kid. None of that sounds like me. "Ive thought about it all week" sounds familiar though.



would anybody tell me why you doubt me being INTJ? I listed all the cognitive functions and told why i think i use each. Why are you skeptical?
 

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8.Do you focus on “what if’s” or “what could be”? (Ne) Or having an “aha moment” (Ni)?
Aha. Ni
You seem to change your mind a lot. Earlier you said you don't really remember having aha moments.
 

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You seem to change your mind a lot. Earlier you said you don't really remember having aha moments.
i know and since then i spent a lot of time thinking about it. also i was in a situation where i recognized having a !aha! moment, when my sister instead asked me what if ..... so i remembered how my sister always asks this question when getting information and i dont do that.

and yes before i find enough proof i change my mind a lot when getting new information. why would i stick with me not remembering something even when i suddenly remember it.
 

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You really seem more like an INTP to me. I could also see you being a fe user. It's not only about how emotional you are. I'm no expert though and in the end this is about what you think fits you best.
 

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How about which fictional characters you relate to the best? I was just guessing your sisters type based on the info you provided on this thread.
 

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You really seem more like an INTP to me. I could also see you being a fe user. It's not only about how emotional you are. I'm no expert though and in the end this is about what you think fits you best.
If INTP would mean me being wrong about one or two cognitive functions i would consider it. But INTP is the opposite of what I've come up with. And i dont think i know myself that badly.

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How about which fictional characters you relate to the best? I was just guessing your sisters type based on the info you provided on this thread.
Stiles Stilinski (Teen Wolf).
 

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well if you all told me i was most likely an ENTJ or ISFP id probably accept it more but id still feel more INTJ.
 

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You don't have to accept anything. People here can just try to help you, they can't tell you who you are. You feel like an INTJ. I don't think it's impossible. To me you just don't really seem like one. Out of those you mentioned I think ISFP is more likely than ENTJ.
 

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Stiles Stilinski (Teen Wolf).
I love Stiles!!!! I just hate the character assassination that's been happening to him for the the last few seaons.

I have seen him typed as either INTJ or ENTP. What about Stiles do you relate to?
 

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@Kitty23 I know its been a while but i just saw your post and i thought it was quite interesting. Why do you think that? i think season 3 gave us a great character insight. Season 6 will focus on Stiles and Lydias relationship so maybe we will get more character development from him.

Im like Stiles quite rude and sarcastic with strangers, im strategic, a long term planner and a planner in general, think with rationality and not with emotions.
 

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I know its been a while but i just saw your post and i thought it was quite interesting. Why do you think that? i think season 3 gave us a great character insight. Season 6 will focus on Stiles and Lydias relationship so maybe we will get more character development from him.
I think the writers tried to give him character development but the end result was just kind of messy. Like him losing his virginity to Melia.....is when his plotline started to get messy/too out of Stiles character for me. Sorry I don't remember more details for why I think this. The most recent episodes though I think the writers are doing a better job with him. So I have hope for the character.

Im like Stiles quite rude and sarcastic with strangers, im strategic, a long term planner and a planner in general, think with rationality and not with emotions.
Well any type can be rude and sarcastic with strangers.
Strategic could be Ni+ Te.
Just how far into the future do you plan, and how often?
Planning= strong Te /or and J type
This is where people get confused between thinking and feeling. Yes, emotions are involved...somewhat when you're a feeler. But Feeling= a value system.
Fi= internal values. When I say internal values that means those values you have, originally came from yourself, not outside sources- siblings, movies, parents, religion, etc. Fi is subjective.
Fe= external values- your values originally came from outside sources- siblings, parents, religion, movies, etc. Fe is objective.
Ti= internal logic. Ti is subjective. Cares more about how things works. So if I put a gadget in front of you would you want to take it apart to see how it works?
Te= external logic. Te is objective. INJT's are highly about external action/making things happen= Te.

From experience, INTP's relate easier to others than INTJ's because INTP's use Fe. Fe users tend to relate easier to others, and use words like you, everyone, us....Fi users tend to say I and me. Remember introverted functions focus on yourself. Extraverted functions focus on others/the outside world.

So far with this info I would say you're closer to being an INTJ over INTP.

INTP vs INTJ:

Type Contrast: INTJ vs. INTP How can you tell them... - Funky MBTI in Fiction
 
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