[madhatter]

1.) He is of simple wants and desires.

2.) He cannot be trusted. No matter how pure he WANTS his intentions to be, they are never pure. It is ridiculous how deceitful and manipulative he will be to have his cake and eat it too. When all he has to do is just tell me the truth and I'll accept it, like I've accepted and dealt with his tricky, dirty ways of getting what he wants.

5.) He describes himself as having periods of 'moodiness'. I think these 'moods' come from holding all of his feelings in and neglecting them rather than dealing with them. He pretty much goes from the most calm, collective person I've ever known, to the most vulnerable piece of mush!

Now tell me, is this typical behavior for an ISTP?!

1) Yes, I can be very easy to please.

2) I can be a bit sneaky, which might be construed as manipulative. But I'm not sure to what extreme you mean deceitful. I don't much care for lying. Also, My ISTJ sister calls me a creeper. :crazy:

I also have the dubious honor of being an instigator. It's the first big word I ever learned...my mom called me that all the time. I would instigate something with my older brother and sister, push their buttons in just the right way. They would retaliate and get in trouble, and I would get off scott-free.

5) I have my moods, but I don't become mush. Just lethargic.

 

[madhatter]

I do. Sometimes I think of relationships as a game of chess. But I don't make things up usually. The only time I remember doing that is when I convinced my INFJ mom that the figure of the Count of Monte Cristo was real. She can be pretty gullible. But I was just pulling her chain, not trying to make her do anything. She thought it was funny.

 

[madhatter]

Ah. Well, I might burst and then cool off, but I am also the one that wants to theoretize and analyze the argument that caused it and find out what happened and why and what people really meant. Once I did it after ten or so years because that was when I figured out what actually had gone wrong.

OktoberSkye had a point there earlier; is this friend of yours really all right in the head department? I automatically read the self-pity-mushiness as the shadow F that can emerge at the times of stress or blueness. It shouldn't be there all the time, though, specially if he's having friends.. Has he always been like this or could there be some kind of depression / stress / whatever syndrome that's eating him?

Edit: .. or that general immaturity AEIOU mentioned?

I too have my bursts of temper, but I will admit that I'm wrong and apologize.

 

[madhatter]

I'm always hungry. I would love if someone cooked for me all the time.

And Capsicum, it's not just ISTP males...I want to be Clint Eastwood! There are two kinds of people in this world: those with loaded guns and those that dig. You dig. roud:

Princess Bride is a great comedy. I always wanted to be the Dread Pirate Roberts too! :wink:

 

[madhatter]

I would cook for you! Well, if I knew you. ISTP seem to be really earthy people who like to have their senses indulged, and I've noticed everytime I've cooked or given an ISTP a massage they are always very appreciate, and it's very sweet.

Excellent! I love filling my belly with goodies and tasty treats. :happy: Comfort foods are the best kind.

 

[madhatter]

That's a great movie! It was filmed near my hometown and Clint Eastwood was visiting VFWs a mile away from my work, and I missed him! :dry: I didn't hear about it until after.

 

[madhatter]

I have another question, do settings manipulate ISTPs moods? And if so, what sort of settings bring out what state of mind, or feelings?

I don't quite understand the question. What do you mean by "settings"?

 

[madhatter]

Like how some people feel more comfortable in larger or smaller spaces, or how some people feel more comfortable in clean areas rather than messy ones. How an outside setting may make someone happier than an indoor one...etc.

I had trouble with that at first, too. "What...like settings on a toaster?" :crazy:

I'm pretty sure she means scenic and/or romantic settings.

To that, yeah being out in nature makes me feel at peace. Being out in the water (lake, river, etc.) makes me feel recharged. A nice dimly lit room might make me feel like things are about to get really fun. Or, I can be in a grumpy mood and not give a shit about any of it. :laughing:

Location, place, site, venue.

Oh, I see! Thank you for clarifying. It didn't help that it was 3 in the morning either.

In answer to your query, Tammy: I never thought about it before, but factors like these definitely can affect my mood.

These moods are connected to my senses. I tend to be a little claustrophobic; not panic attacks, but I do not like enclosed spaces. When there is too many people, it's an overload. My space is being invaded, I have to worry about bumping into people, because I'll have to interact if I do. Dim lights and overwhelming smells usually give me a headache, and I don't just get headaches, I get migraines. Or when I'm down at my university, and the classroom has no windows (so it feels like a prison), and it's so freaking hot, because the thermostat is broken and no one has bothered to turn the heat down since the winter.

Or like ThoughtProcess said, I go out into nature with plenty of open space, the smells and sounds and light and the breeze on the skin are all pleasant and it puts me at ease. Familiar settings, like grandma's house, are comforting.

 

[madhatter]

Too many people around me talking about kids and recipes and wallpapers and other unimaginative and boring things make me stressed.

Doesn't just fill you with this irrepressible urge to run as far and as fast as you can? I'm glad I'm not the only one.

Watching stupid-humor like Stan & Laurel, Itchy & Scratchy (or pretty much any (USofAmerican?) show / movie today), where the main character is an idiot at whom everyone is welcomed to laugh, makes me embarrassed.

I'm not ashamed to say that I am also embarrassed at this facet of my culture.

 

[madhatter]

@ madhatter and Seralya:

Regards what you're saying about kids (and recipes and wallpapers), as an ISTP male I don't have to have many of those conversations, but women are "supposed" to like them... so how do you deal with it? Smile politely and nod? Or something else?

Smile politely and nod, and completely zone out. And at the first possible moment, find an opportunity to slip away to the guys' group.

 

[madhatter]

Good idea... unless the men are all getting touch with their feelings. :mellow:

Noooooooooo!!!!!! :sad::frustrating: