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Have an ISTP friend I've known for five years, and I've learned a couple very basic, important things about him:

1.) He is of simple wants and desires.

2.) He cannot be trusted. No matter how pure he WANTS his intentions to be, they are never pure. It is ridiculous how deceitful and manipulative he will be to have his cake and eat it too. When all he has to do is just tell me the truth and I'll accept it, like I've accepted and dealt with his tricky, dirty ways of getting what he wants.

3.) When he is uncomfortable talking about something that is happening, he simply pretends it never happened! And hurts people's feelings by doing so. And could really just care less.

4.) He never knows what he wants. I've come to learn that when he wants something, he wants it THEN. Not later, not yesterday, THEN. The only way to deal with him is to take him day by day.


5.) He describes himself as having periods of 'moodiness'. I think these 'moods' come from holding all of his feelings in and neglecting them rather than dealing with them. He pretty much goes from the most calm, collective person I've ever known, to the most vulnerable piece of mush!

Now tell me, is this typical behavior for an ISTP?!
I can't speak for everyone, because we ISTP's are after all different people, and surely lacking in any form of telepathy, but this sounds a fair amount like me. What I can tell you is that:

1. The simple needs and desires, for me, stem from life in general being far too overwhelming and overstimulating. So the simple pleasures are often far more rewarding to me than anything else.

2. Not that I always necessarily have nefarious intent, but I can't help but see, analyse and take advantage of all the angles in a situation. More often than not, I'm in my own head calling myself a piece of shit for automatically doing so. It's almost as if I've tainted everything in my life by automatically seeing how to get what I want out of a particular situation. Nothing is ever "pure" for me, and try as I might, nothing ever will be. It really is out of my/our control. Although, I will admit to having scruples, and doing my best to not always take advantage when I can, particularly so when it involves others.

3. Pretending something isn't happening...not exactly the best explanation of what's going on internally...though I won't fault you for thinking so as we're very good at misleading others. I usually know damn good and well what's happening. More often than not, for me anyhow, I'll ignore something if I know my honest reaction would be far more offensive. That's fairly murky water really. I doubt that many of us are emotionally dead, but more likely on a different wavelength. Goings on just don't usually register on the same scale for us.

4. Sorry? I know I can be severely indecisive, flippant and second guessing, all at once. I have an idea as to the havoc this bears on my peers, but it's certainly not any better on my end either. I can't really explain that other than to say it's just the way I/we am/are, and I/we just deal with it.

5. The moodiness....it comes and goes, and for various reasons, for me at least. Sometimes, I just woke up that way. Many times, it's a reaction to some detail that is probably fairly insignificant in the grand scheme. Sometimes, I just haven't been in that mood for a while, and its time has come. I can tell you that I have days at work where I get along with my peers pretty well. Equally so, I have days where I want to tell them to fuck off for no other reason than either me waking up in a mood, or more likely, them happening to have struck some ridiculously random peeve of mine.

We're a pretty oddball nonsensical breed at times.
 

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Yeah.....

Not that I'm unwilling to take the lashings for my own inattention...but at 2am in Vegas after who knows how many drinks...I think a feature request to auto-lock threads after a period of inactivity would be reasonable.
If I am going to try and read old threads I will have to be just as drunk as you are, if not worse.
 

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1.) He is of simple wants and desires.


I can relate to that. I don't want much, and what I do what isn't to complex or eccentric.

2.) He cannot be trusted. No matter how pure he WANTS his intentions to be, they are never pure. It is ridiculous how deceitful and manipulative he will be to have his cake and eat it too. When all he has to do is just tell me the truth and I'll accept it, like I've accepted and dealt with his tricky, dirty ways of getting what he wants.
I don't need to lie or deceive people in order to get my cake and eat it too. I get my cake, eat it and if somebody doesn't like it they can fucking leave. I'm very clear about my intentions and what I want. Simple.

3.) When he is uncomfortable talking about something that is happening, he simply pretends it never happened! And hurts people's feelings by doing so. And could really just care less.


I did this a lot when I was stupider, now I just say I don't want to talk about it. If somebody get's their feelings hurt they can cry in the corner, doesn't bother me.

4.) He never knows what he wants. I've come to learn that when he wants something, he wants it THEN. Not later, not yesterday, THEN. The only way to deal with him is to take him day by day.


Yup. I have patience but when I want something I want something and if I don't know what I want, I will eventually.

5.) He describes himself as having periods of 'moodiness'. I think these 'moods' come from holding all of his feelings in and neglecting them rather than dealing with them. He pretty much goes from the most calm, collective person I've ever known, to the most vulnerable piece of mush!


I can relate, I got over it. Matured a little and started dealing with my emotions on my own. Works wonders.

Now tell me, is this typical behavior for an ISTP?!
I would say so. Give him some time to grow up and sort himself out.
 
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