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Are you familiar with the APTI? (Attitudinal Psyche Typology Indicator)

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I've been dying to know what my type is. I think I might be VLFE because the Psyche Yoga description sounds the most like me next to EFLB.

The E types sound like me because I'm light-hearted and prefer positivity, V types sound like me because I have no problems getting what I want because I have a lot of energy and determination, F types are like me because I love sports and physical activities and always need to be doing something and I'm fashion and beauty conscious.

Secondary L sounds a lot like me because of how I process information but so do L in oblivious because I'm always open to understand new ideas and I'm not very stubborn when it comes to new information so long as it makes sense. E last sounds like me because I'm awkward when people have dramatic emotional displays and don't pay much attention to my own emotions.
 

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Well, V is actually more of a Te - Socionics Se thing, with strong Fi influences, it depends on the position.
Ok, I see. That makes a bit more sense to me as far as its position in my results (LVEF). Once you get those 15 posts, be sure to post a link to more information about the theory.
 
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I've never heard of this indicator but I would love to take a quiz about it.
 

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I've never heard of this indicator but I would love to take a quiz about it.
There's a quiz here: https://www.attitudinalpsyche.com/take-the-test/


Also more information about the theory here: https://www.attitudinalpsyche.com/

And a Facebook group that discusses the theory here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/380249965677001/?hc_ref=ARTjLc1oz-Thtq_3d3MtrDgTfzJSsUw2NQW-SnKs0WGj4OvmJvWOKAwNhJmwjQImwRo


If you have any more questions please let me know. I know the theory quite well, it's very interesting and has practical implications, especially for relationships.

I'm LEVF by the way.
 

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1L – Confident Logic​
Strong focus on how they believe things operate. Always put forth unambiguous answers as to how and why things work. Continuously reevaluate the rules of logic in order to keep opinions up to date. Solely trust in their own ability to reason through any sort of puzzle or problem. Discount others’ explanations until it can be verified for themselves. Thrive in situations with a lot of chaotic and extraneous information. Refuse to change their opinion unless they can take credit for being involved in the thought shift. Are quick to zone in on a causal links to the current state of reality. Have a strict guideline as to what qualifies as useful research or information. Have no problem instructing and teaching new ideas to others. Problem solvers who excel in formal academia. Easily receive high marks in academic arenas, sometimes challenging the grade scale’s status-quo. Always aware of unknown variables that other people are failing to see – quick to point them out. Tend to dislike arguing unless they can lead the discussion without being discounted. May fall into a know-it-all attitude. Have an always evolving program of understanding of the world that only they control – rarely letting others change their mind. Quietly philosophize the meaning of life unless it’s useless to their current venture. Prone to correcting others’ mistakes rather than discussing merits of the problem. Have a hard time admitting when they’ve made a mistake. Have great trust in their own ideas and how they apply them to knowledge as a whole.

The 1L function is formed by combining the logic aspect (L) with the confident attitude (1st). Confident logic (1L) has a strong interest in one’s own concept of logic. All 1L types are sufficient at being involved in matters relating to the systems of the mind. They may be aggressive about their opinions on higher knowledge, political arguments, scientific thought and their own abilities to reason. These types tend to focus intently on the personal results that can be obtained from the inner workings of the mind which they use to solidify their logical analyses.

2F – Flexible Physics​
Have a natural ability to show others the physical beauty of the world around them. They want to share their thoughts on healthy living while incorporating all feedback. Will give others resources, and provide advice on the application of resources to practical needs. Pay close attention to how others physically express themselves. Notice quality of clothing and have a keen sense of what patterns and colors work together. Tend to offer solutions on how to keep things tidy and neat. May converse about sensory experiences for long periods of time. Look for feedback on how others are experiencing their environment. Usually tend to everyone in a room and offer negotiable solutions to differing wants and needs. Have a hard time taking ownership over objects. Can sometimes become offended by overly critical remarks on appearance as they are sensitive to taste in fashion and aesthetics. May leave things entirely messy but still have a strong understanding of where and why things are in their current place. Are wonderful at curbing others’ health and body related neurotic anxiety. May become very materialistic but not in a selfish manner.

The 2F function is formed by combining the physics aspect (F) with the flexible attitude (2nd). Flexible physics (2F) has a strong and open interest in all concepts of the physical world. All 2F types are sufficient at being involved in matters relating to the material world. They are mostly diplomatic about their opinions on tastes, belongings, comforts, aesthetics and practical skills. These types tend to focus intently on processing, improving and negotiating all things related to the material world. They use this ability to keep others at ease on all matters related to physics.

3E – Insecure Emotion​
Are confused and sometimes stunted by emotional turmoil happening inside. Can try to ignore their emotions in order to feel a sense of calm. Do not know when to apply these inner reactions to any given situation. May feel faltered in their relationships if they are not given ample reassurance that they are allowed to express themselves. Are unsure and pressured by their intuitions as they do not know if they should trust them or not. May feel a weary anxiety when around people who are emotionally volatile. Tend to be confused by cultural differences and may try extra hard to understand them in order to avoid falling into any sensitive disagreement. Can go overboard with their emotions and become venomous which causes regret. May focus entirely too much on what their friendships, loved ones, and intuitions mean to them – often leads to neuroticism and anxiety about every new person who enters their lives. Oftentimes do not know how to go about something when they’re feeling offended – may distrust the offended feeling all together. At times, go on long tirades of emotional outbursts (good or bad) due to holding them in for extended time periods. Can cause themselves paranoia in wondering how they will ever love someone. May be puzzled by art when it is not directly clear what it’s expressing. Do not know what their deep desires mean and how to interpret them – but wish to understand them.

The 3E function is formed by combining the emotion aspect (E) with the insecure attitude (3rd). Insecure emotion (3E) has an apprehensive and unsure attitude towards all concepts of the emotional world. All 3E types are insufficient at being involved in matters relating to human emotions. They are mostly anxious about their understanding of relationships, personal feelings, culture, art, deep desires and person to person interaction. These types tend to have a shaky and unstable relationship with how they process all things related to the emotional realm. They tend to need clarification and feedback from others when engaging in all emotional matters.

4V – Oblivious Volition​
Can go long periods of time not caring about their responsibilities. Tend to only do things in order to feel a sense of accomplishment so they can transition back to a quiet lifestyle. May not reach out to friends and family for a long time as they do not generally keep track of previous endeavors. Do not concern themselves with endlessly discussing life improvements and motivation. Feel as though their identity is fixed and will only make slight adjustments to it when absolutely necessary. May forget their obligations or leave it on others to do as they best see fit. Quickly accept that those with more energy are more capable of accomplishing their goals. Due to downplaying their own volition – they have an ability to look effortlessly successful. May not be too concerned with showing others confidence or proving themselves. Can completely ignore the effect they have on others, preferring to stick to patterns until the time comes to change them. Take extra time to energize themselves and the window of that energized state is small. Can let obstacles stay in their way until they actively notice them. Will drift between actively searching for inspiration and ignoring changes in energy, though, this is not a cause for concern for them.

The 4V function is formed by combining the volition aspect (V) with the oblivious attitude (4th). Oblivious volition (4V) has an ignorant and carefree attitude towards all concepts of volition. All 4V types are insufficient at being involved in matters relating to the realm of human willpower. They are mostly easygoing and neutral about their understanding of responsibilities, obligations, goals, willpower and how to overcome obstacles. These types tend to focus intently on the results that can be obtained from the human drive, though this is not a top priority for them. They tend to trust in the feedback that they receive from others when inquiring in all matters related to volition.
 

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1V– Confident Volition

Prefer to quickly understand what needs to be done in any situation. Highly trust and value their own sense of time and dignity. May go long periods of time thinking about their own identity and how they can apply themselves to the changing the world. Put a lot of attention on work ethic and responsibilities. Tend to trust their own knowledge of human endeavors over others. May be entrepreneurial and a one-(wo)man show. Take on the task of being a leader and responsible for others – even when not in any position to do so. Will overestimate own abilities due to often discounting others’ motivation. Do not like to be constantly reminded of their responsibilities. Tend to feel completely in control of their desires. Will decide how to reach a desired goal without second thought. Focus on how and when to show self-control in any situation. May do things for other people without realizing because it’s what they wanted done. Often override others wishes in place of their own. May talk extensively about how to get something accomplished, but usually already has a firm grasp on own sense of energy. Does not require others to intervene or help unless it has been decided by the 1V themselves.

The 1V function is formed by combining the volition aspect (V) with the confident attitude (1st). Confident volition (1V) has a strong interest in one’s own concept of willpower and volition. All 1V types are sufficient at being involved in matters relating to what makes up one’s identity. They may be aggressive about their opinions on responsibilities, obligations, goals, willpower, and how to overcome obstacles. These types tend to focus intently on the personal results that can be obtained from human willpower which they use to solidify their opinion on these matters.

2F – Flexible Physics

Have a natural ability to show others the physical beauty of the world around them. They want to share their thoughts on healthy living while incorporating all feedback. Will give others resources, and provide advice on the application of resources to practical needs. Pay close attention to how others physically express themselves. Notice quality of clothing and have a keen sense of what patterns and colors work together. Tend to offer solutions on how to keep things tidy and neat. May converse about sensory experiences for long periods of time. Look for feedback on how others are experiencing their environment. Usually tend to everyone in a room and offer negotiable solutions to differing wants and needs. Have a hard time taking ownership over objects. Can sometimes become offended by overly critical remarks on appearance as they are sensitive to taste in fashion and aesthetics. May leave things entirely messy but still have a strong understanding of where and why things are in their current place. Are wonderful at curbing others’ health and body related neurotic anxiety. May become very materialistic but not in a selfish manner.

The 2F function is formed by combining the physics aspect (F) with the flexible attitude (2nd). Flexible physics (2F) has a strong and open interest in all concepts of the physical world. All 2F types are sufficient at being involved in matters relating to the material world. They are mostly diplomatic about their opinions on tastes, belongings, comforts, aesthetics and practical skills. These types tend to focus intently on processing, improving and negotiating all things related to the material world. They use this ability to keep others at ease on all matters related to physics.

3E – Insecure Emotion

Are confused and sometimes stunted by emotional turmoil happening inside. Can try to ignore their emotions in order to feel a sense of calm. Do not know when to apply these inner reactions to any given situation. May feel faltered in their relationships if they are not given ample reassurance that they are allowed to express themselves. Are unsure and pressured by their intuitions as they do not know if they should trust them or not. May feel a weary anxiety when around people who are emotionally volatile. Tend to be confused by cultural differences and may try extra hard to understand them in order to avoid falling into any sensitive disagreement. Can go overboard with their emotions and become venomous which causes regret. May focus entirely too much on what their friendships, loved ones, and intuitions mean to them – often leads to neuroticism and anxiety about every new person who enters their lives. Oftentimes do not know how to go about something when they’re feeling offended – may distrust the offended feeling all together. At times, go on long tirades of emotional outbursts (good or bad) due to holding them in for extended time periods. Can cause themselves paranoia in wondering how they will ever love someone. May be puzzled by art when it is not directly clear what it’s expressing. Do not know what their deep desires mean and how to interpret them – but wish to understand them.

The 3E function is formed by combining the emotion aspect (E) with the insecure attitude (3rd). Insecure emotion (3E) has an apprehensive and unsure attitude towards all concepts of the emotional world. All 3E types are insufficient at being involved in matters relating to human emotions. They are mostly anxious about their understanding of relationships, personal feelings, culture, art, deep desires and person to person interaction. These types tend to have a shaky and unstable relationship with how they process all things related to the emotional realm. They tend to need clarification and feedback from others when engaging in all emotional matters.

4L – Oblivious Logic

Easygoing and open to others’ points of view. Not overly interested in the meaning of life unless it’s relevant to their current activities. Can cut conversations short if clear answers to problems are not gained. May depend on previous objective intellectual thought and ideas to figure things out. Are not overly motivated by academic success. Don’t tend to spend much time thinking about how rules and systems apply to reality. Trust that other people have spent the appropriate time proving a point, which in their mind, makes it more valid. Prefer to quickly diagnose a reason to answer a “why” question. May get annoyed if people pressure them to explain complex logical underpinnings. Zone out when conversations turn towards epistemology, philosophy and science. May think they are not smart regardless of their actual level of intellect. Prefer cut and dry answers to problems rather than philosophizing endlessly. Do not mind being around self-assured intellectuals – and will defer to them for answers rather than producing answers themselves. Have a high tolerance for being corrected or constructively criticized in academia.

The 4L function is formed by combining the logic aspect (L) with the oblivious attitude (4th). Oblivious logic (4L) has an ignorant and carefree attitude towards all concepts of logic. All 4L types are insufficient at being involved in matters relating to the logical realm. They are mostly easygoing and neutral about their opinions of higher knowledge, political arguments, scientific thought and their own abilities to reason. These types tend to focus intently on the results that can be obtained from logical analysis, though this is not a top priority for them. They tend to trust in the feedback that they receive from others when inquiring in all matters related to logic.
 

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The quiz gave me LEVF, but after reading the descriptions, I think I'm more ELVF. I'm pretty confident about the last two letters and their placement in my stack based on the insecure/oblivious descriptions.
 

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It's just reworded MBTI, and worded poorly at that. :frustrating:
 

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ok...? Never heard of ABTI before and the questions in the test I took could have been interpreted in multiple ways so who knows if I interpreted it as the creator of the test meant and actually got an accurate result. Not interested enough to research and see if I like it, at least not today.
 

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1L – Confident Logic
Strong focus on how they believe things operate. Always put forth unambiguous answers as to how and why things work. Continuously reevaluate the rules of logic in order to keep opinions up to date. Solely trust in their own ability to reason through any sort of puzzle or problem. Discount others’ explanations until it can be verified for themselves. Thrive in situations with a lot of chaotic and extraneous information. Refuse to change their opinion unless they can take credit for being involved in the thought shift. Are quick to zone in on a causal links to the current state of reality. Have a strict guideline as to what qualifies as useful research or information. Have no problem instructing and teaching new ideas to others. Problem solvers who excel in formal academia. Easily receive high marks in academic arenas, sometimes challenging the grade scale’s status-quo. Always aware of unknown variables that other people are failing to see – quick to point them out. Tend to dislike arguing unless they can lead the discussion without being discounted. May fall into a know-it-all attitude. Have an always evolving program of understanding of the world that only they control – rarely letting others change their mind. Quietly philosophize the meaning of life unless it’s useless to their current venture. Prone to correcting others’ mistakes rather than discussing merits of the problem. Have a hard time admitting when they’ve made a mistake. Have great trust in their own ideas and how they apply them to knowledge as a whole.

The 1L function is formed by combining the logic aspect (L) with the confident attitude (1st). Confident logic (1L) has a strong interest in one’s own concept of logic. All 1L types are sufficient at being involved in matters relating to the systems of the mind. They may be aggressive about their opinions on higher knowledge, political arguments, scientific thought and their own abilities to reason. These types tend to focus intently on the personal results that can be obtained from the inner workings of the mind which they use to solidify their logical analyses.

2E – Flexible Emotion
Are open and honest about their own emotions while simultaneously helping others to do the same. Will always listen to others’ doubts while offering a stable and reliable arena to express one’s self. Can negotiate through any sort of disagreement or emotional turmoil between members of a group. Will tend to play peacemaker whenever it is necessary. Consider others opinions on emotions and feelings as valid as their own. Tend to think disagreements and blow-ups are not the end of a friendship. Appreciate all cultures and have a hard time creating any sort of value judgment against people for their cultural practices. Believe that everyone has an intuitive nature underneath. Focus heavily on how their own and others feelings align. May police the expressions and feelings of a group – which can cause discomfort among those who normally express themselves unhinged. Are quick to encourage others into sharing their deepest desires. Are patient and relaxed with others’ insecurities. Always focus on calming anxiety caused from stressful and rocky relationships. Love to share their music and entertainment preferences while hearing out others’. Give impressions of openness regardless of how open they truly are. Aim to help people to lower their emotional shields.

The 2E function is formed by combining the emotion aspect (E) with the flexible attitude (2nd). Flexible emotion (2E) has a strong and open interest in all things related to the concept of emotions. All 2E types are sufficient at being involved in matters relating to the emotional world. They are mostly diplomatic about their opinions on relationships, personal feelings, culture, art, deep desires and person to person interaction. These types tend to focus intently on processing, improving and negotiating all the ways in which humans express themselves. They use this ability to keep others at ease on all matters related to emotion.

3V – Insecure Volition
Find work ethic to be a confusing concept. Often do not know how to react to their responsibilities as a human. Prefer to process the tenets of their willpower – and will react very negatively to those who push them to make a move. Can completely ignore any sort of question regarding their identity until it’s safe or comfortable to do so. Will feel anxious about large workloads and often insecure in how their duties to perform are perceived by others. May feel like constantly proving themselves in order to settle the inner conflict of their capabilities. Tend to not understand their potential and how they can affect others. Overestimate how much motivation something actually requires. May panic when they are not feeling as energetic as they’d wish. Tend to become anxious over obstacles and unsure of how to pass them. Do not know how to go about their obligations. May make promises but then become unsure of how to keep them. Will over-analyze and replay all the things they’ve accomplished in their recent history – unsure of the next steps to take.

The 3V function is formed by combining the volition aspect (V) with the insecure attitude (3rd). Insecure volition (3V) has an apprehensive and unsure attitude towards all manifestations of human willpower. All 3V types are insufficient at being involved in matters relating to volition. They are mostly anxious about their understanding of responsibilities, obligations, goals, willpower and how to overcome obstacles. These types tend to have a shaky and unstable relationship with how they process all things related to the human drive. They tend to need clarification and feedback from others when engaging in matters of volition.

4F – Oblivious Physics
Unattached to the physical world around them. Have a very hard time paying attention to own comfort levels. May miss opportunities on bettering their living environment. Can forget to fix or upgrade necessities. Leave belongings lying around until they become a hazard. Have an easy time adapting to others’ physical and practical needs. Ability to relax anywhere, regardless of activities going on around them. Will engage in practical living when it supports a particular goal or other life interest. May form habits at a young age to deal with the obliviousness to their health. Will try any sort of new food or style and form an opinion after experiencing it. Have to experiment often to figure out their personal tastes. Do not like to go in depth about their food preferences. Averse to being reminded of practical measures that need completed. Forget to schedule doctor check-ups and follow-ups. Have an ability to detach from what is going on around them to dive into the intuitive nature of the moment. Do not notice dust, clutter, or filth unless it’s directly impeding a project or goal. Trust in the practical advice they receive. Do not usually care about the value of objects and possessions. Usually have an odd and unorthodox sense of style. Tend to completely forget how much money they have. Can lose track of their belongings until later stumbled upon – usually by surprise. Accept food and comfort from others without hassle or second thought. Rarely picky about where they are located in a public space.

The 4F function is formed by combining the physics aspect (F) with the oblivious attitude (4th). Oblivious physics (4F) has an ignorant and carefree attitude towards all concepts of the physical world. All 4F types are insufficient at being involved in matters relating to the material world. They are mostly easygoing and neutral about their opinions on tastes, belongings, comforts, aesthetics and practical skills. These types tend to focus intently on the results that can be obtained from the material world, though this is not a top priority for them. They tend to trust in the feedback that they receive from others when inquiring in all matters related to physics.

@The Exception Thanks for linking the test! I guess we have the same type.
 

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Well, I took this and it looks kinda ENTJ-ish. (Maybe back to the typing board? I donno. But anyhow...)

VLFE


VLFE is a type who is inclined primarily to dominate and control. They are very often led by new beginnings, commonly holding high administrative positions. One of the main criterion, if not the most important criterion of success to the VLFE, is hierarchical status. VLFE is perfectly able to achieve this, but they must reach this goal through their ability to negotiate with people, expressing their wants, act at the right time in the right place and sensing the possible benefit from the deal. First Will is immediately noticed in the VLFE, as they will be completely confident in the effectiveness and appropriateness of their decisions, which they can assume that the people around the VLFE do not succeed, because they do not follow their decisions specifically. According to VLFE, losers usually blame themselves for their troubles, and since the VLFE believes that themselves or anyone else is to blame, the VLFE always learns from their mistakes to only get stronger from each failure to finally start winning at something. VLFE very much enjoys logical reasoning. Suitable careers for the VLFE can often be found in education or writing, as they make excellent teachers and lecturers, as well as authors of quality textbooks that are well recognized. In addition, VLFE manifested in the fact that they love to educate and explain topics to others, trying to teach them to approach life with fidelity and efficiency, in order to achieve the best results by looking at reality through the lens of knowledge. VLFE pays specific attention to the material world, as they can play sports and achieve considerable success in the sport without being a professional athlete. They might also pay greater attention to the accumulation of money, taking care of property, health, as well as the bodily pleasures of life. VLFE comprehends their concerns about material world, so that they may live in a lifestyle that limits material activities, therefore, VLFE’s outlook on the physical world might be perceived as absurd and unnatural, when in reality they simply have standards for the particular activities that they partake in. VLFE appreciates the emotional states of others, sometimes believing that they provide initial information about human psychology, yet they sharply reject negative attitudes and emotional pressure suddenly placed on them. Typically showing high hostility towards this external pressure, due to the fact that in their view, emotion is the least suitable for the role in assisting towards discovering the various truths of the world.
Any thoughts? How does the correlate with MBTI?
 

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In taking the test (and at times perhaps not fully understanding the intent of particular questions), my result was LFVE. In reading through it, it didn't really seem correct.

Once I found the page showing the descriptions of the 4 functions in all 4 attitudes, I was able to determine that ELVF is the most accurate for me. Some points:
  • Seems not to be holistic. The functions present as they do regardless of what the other 3 are. So ELVF has the same thing to say about 1E as it would for say EFLV. Parts are parts, and the sum is no greater than the individual parts. That's quite different than MBTI wherein Fi appears quite different when accompanied by Ne-Si-Te than it does trailing after Te-Ni-Se-. So as such it doesn't seem as though the mechanics of the functions are perceived as exchangeable for cognitive functions.
  • Seems more inspired by Socionics than by MBTI with its focus on relationship predictions, division into Sexta comparable to Socionics' Quadra, etc.
  • Doesn't really offer why each of the 4 functions must corporately reside in one of the 4 attitudes with no allowance for overlap. In other words it believes that only one of L, V, F, & E can have an attitude of 4 (Oblivious) for example. There is no personality type of say 1E, 2L, 3V, 3F. It just seems rather arbitrary and a pastiche of the function stacks.
 

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And after some investigation, I took it again-the short 20 question one and got this:

Your Result:
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[1V] Confident Willpower: Tendency to proactively take responsibility for their own and others actions. A driven person motivated to lead, carry the heavy load and push projects forward. They’re very good at overcoming odds, working towards achieving their goals and knowing what they want. Rarely takes the will and desires of others into account. They excel at leadership, yet struggle being a follower. They may believe that the only way to get a job done well is by doing it yourself. They will not compromise their own wishes or desires, making them appear undiplomatic at times. [2L] Flexible Logic: They are open-minded in the traditional sense of the word and able to freely discuss everything while listening and accepting the opinions and ideas of others. They give others the reflection and thought required to actively participate in academic debates. They are completely able to tactfully convince the other party of their ideas, while also openly admitting to their own mistakes, thereby enlightening the world. They may endlessly discuss ideas without reaching any kind of constructive conclusion and naturally over complicate an otherwise simple subject. [3E] Insecure Emotion: They question the appropriateness of emotional displays. They may encourage grounded, level-headed decision making and actively avoid emotional extremes or dramatic escalations. They remain skeptical toward emotions in order to avoid manipulation. Often actively hides or suppresses their emotional states for fear of others reactions to them. Because of this emotional suppression, they are prone to being trapped in negative emotional states, without actively knowing how to process them. They are afraid of strong emotional expression as they associate that with a loss of control, and can demand such to be kept to a minimum in their environment. The high emotional self-control also causes problems in personal relationships, as they will have trouble “letting go”. [4F] Oblivious Physics: May be able to figuratively live anywhere under any kind of physical conditions without any complaints. No need for or strong attachments to material pleasures. They may also have no strong attachment to their material possessions as they do not require much diversity in sensory pleasures. They are usually easily satisfied, yet hindered by an inability to take care of themselves. No patience for physical endeavors, unless a quick solution is needed. They may spend short bursts of time arranging their physical environment enough to feel temporarily satisfied. They can be clueless about preferences in the physical/material world. They usually form habits in order to do things that are required for their physical survival. They may be quite conservative or unknowing in their personal tastes.
 

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I got LFEV on two tests. Hmm. This is the first time I've heard or read about APTI.

First one:
 
The distinguishing feature of LFEV, is their loyalty and respect for established rules. “The rules accept it, so it must be allowed.” “That is unacceptable, you deviant.” “Are you certain that the rules allow it?”, these phrases are commonly found in the LFEV’s pattern of speech. From their perspective, rules and regulations are needed to keep peace, to regulate and prevent violence, conflict and disorder. When formulating rules, laws, algorithms and methods; LFEV is unmatched by any other type. They often have a remarkable performance in academics, as the LFEV is absolutely capable of extreme thoroughness in the implementation their every single task and project, very gently working through all the details and without missing a single one. LFEV finds beauty and relishes in it, only in the material world. For them, there is nothing unnatural or shameful in doing manual labor; like any work performed by the LFEV, will be done very carefully and accurately. Often the LFEV will have high standards for diligence, sometimes they will meet inaccuracy, due to the fact that it is better to enjoy the surroundings that have already been created, rather than endlessly improving their surroundings without enjoying a single thing.

LFEV is very prone to study and repair different objects, with the help from improvised means. In addition, LFEV will be inclined to attach great importance to the “prose of life” addressing a variety of domestic affairs and problems. During communication with the LFEV, they often appear aloof, gloomy and rooted deep within their hearts withholds an unerasable pessimism. Often, they seek to contain their pessimism within themselves, but sometimes the LFEV cannot control their emotions, which can only be followed by an uncontrolled release of “empty” emotions. While this happens, they might often throw/blame their resentment on others. Sometimes, it might seem like it is impossible to make the LFEV happy, but it is rather the fact that they are unsure about expressing joy at the appropriate moment.

LFEV is an incredibly docile and good-natured type, as they always say with exceptional respect that a decision is not by their personal whims, and LFEV easily complies to rules or the tasks given to them by their superiors. LFEV doesn’t pertain to any sort of personal goals or achievements, since they see themselves as a skilled worker that is always giving 110% percent to help out those above the LVEV in power. They do not mind following in the footsteps of another person, believing that they have much to learn from the other person already. Typically, LFEV wears professional and discreet clothing, dull tones, as they are trying to be invisible to others all the time; they believe that it is much easier to go about life without getting involved in the lives of others and therefore, by eliminating the unnecessary (including unwanted) attention.


Second one:

 
1L – Confident Logic
Strong focus on how they believe things operate. Always put forth unambiguous answers as to how and why things work. Continuously reevaluate the rules of logic in order to keep opinions up to date. Solely trust in their own ability to reason through any sort of puzzle or problem. Discount others’ explanations until it can be verified for themselves. Thrive in situations with a lot of chaotic and extraneous information. Refuse to change their opinion unless they can take credit for being involved in the thought shift. Are quick to zone in on a causal links to the current state of reality. Have a strict guideline as to what qualifies as useful research or information. Have no problem instructing and teaching new ideas to others. Problem solvers who excel in formal academia. Easily receive high marks in academic arenas, sometimes challenging the grade scale’s status-quo. Always aware of unknown variables that other people are failing to see – quick to point them out. Tend to dislike arguing unless they can lead the discussion without being discounted. May fall into a know-it-all attitude. Have an always evolving program of understanding of the world that only they control – rarely letting others change their mind. Quietly philosophize the meaning of life unless it’s useless to their current venture. Prone to correcting others’ mistakes rather than discussing merits of the problem. Have a hard time admitting when they’ve made a mistake. Have great trust in their own ideas and how they apply them to knowledge as a whole.

The 1L function is formed by combining the logic aspect (L) with the confident attitude (1st). Confident logic (1L) has a strong interest in one’s own concept of logic. All 1L types are sufficient at being involved in matters relating to the systems of the mind. They may be aggressive about their opinions on higher knowledge, political arguments, scientific thought and their own abilities to reason. These types tend to focus intently on the personal results that can be obtained from the inner workings of the mind which they use to solidify their logical analyses.

2F – Flexible Physics
Have a natural ability to show others the physical beauty of the world around them. They want to share their thoughts on healthy living while incorporating all feedback. Will give others resources, and provide advice on the application of resources to practical needs. Pay close attention to how others physically express themselves. Notice quality of clothing and have a keen sense of what patterns and colors work together. Tend to offer solutions on how to keep things tidy and neat. May converse about sensory experiences for long periods of time. Look for feedback on how others are experiencing their environment. Usually tend to everyone in a room and offer negotiable solutions to differing wants and needs. Have a hard time taking ownership over objects. Can sometimes become offended by overly critical remarks on appearance as they are sensitive to taste in fashion and aesthetics. May leave things entirely messy but still have a strong understanding of where and why things are in their current place. Are wonderful at curbing others’ health and body related neurotic anxiety. May become very materialistic but not in a selfish manner.

The 2F function is formed by combining the physics aspect (F) with the flexible attitude (2nd). Flexible physics (2F) has a strong and open interest in all concepts of the physical world. All 2F types are sufficient at being involved in matters relating to the material world. They are mostly diplomatic about their opinions on tastes, belongings, comforts, aesthetics and practical skills. These types tend to focus intently on processing, improving and negotiating all things related to the material world. They use this ability to keep others at ease on all matters related to physics.

3E – Insecure Emotion
Are confused and sometimes stunted by emotional turmoil happening inside. Can try to ignore their emotions in order to feel a sense of calm. Do not know when to apply these inner reactions to any given situation. May feel faltered in their relationships if they are not given ample reassurance that they are allowed to express themselves. Are unsure and pressured by their intuitions as they do not know if they should trust them or not. May feel a weary anxiety when around people who are emotionally volatile. Tend to be confused by cultural differences and may try extra hard to understand them in order to avoid falling into any sensitive disagreement. Can go overboard with their emotions and become venomous which causes regret. May focus entirely too much on what their friendships, loved ones, and intuitions mean to them – often leads to neuroticism and anxiety about every new person who enters their lives. Oftentimes do not know how to go about something when they’re feeling offended – may distrust the offended feeling all together. At times, go on long tirades of emotional outbursts (good or bad) due to holding them in for extended time periods. Can cause themselves paranoia in wondering how they will ever love someone. May be puzzled by art when it is not directly clear what it’s expressing. Do not know what their deep desires mean and how to interpret them – but wish to understand them.

The 3E function is formed by combining the emotion aspect (E) with the insecure attitude (3rd). Insecure emotion (3E) has an apprehensive and unsure attitude towards all concepts of the emotional world. All 3E types are insufficient at being involved in matters relating to human emotions. They are mostly anxious about their understanding of relationships, personal feelings, culture, art, deep desires and person to person interaction. These types tend to have a shaky and unstable relationship with how they process all things related to the emotional realm. They tend to need clarification and feedback from others when engaging in all emotional matters.

4V – Oblivious Volition
Can go long periods of time not caring about their responsibilities. Tend to only do things in order to feel a sense of accomplishment so they can transition back to a quiet lifestyle. May not reach out to friends and family for a long time as they do not generally keep track of previous endeavors. Do not concern themselves with endlessly discussing life improvements and motivation. Feel as though their identity is fixed and will only make slight adjustments to it when absolutely necessary. May forget their obligations or leave it on others to do as they best see fit. Quickly accept that those with more energy are more capable of accomplishing their goals. Due to downplaying their own volition – they have an ability to look effortlessly successful. May not be too concerned with showing others confidence or proving themselves. Can completely ignore the effect they have on others, preferring to stick to patterns until the time comes to change them. Take extra time to energize themselves and the window of that energized state is small. Can let obstacles stay in their way until they actively notice them. Will drift between actively searching for inspiration and ignoring changes in energy, though, this is not a cause for concern for them.

The 4V function is formed by combining the volition aspect (V) with the oblivious attitude (4th). Oblivious volition (4V) has an ignorant and carefree attitude towards all concepts of volition. All 4V types are insufficient at being involved in matters relating to the realm of human willpower. They are mostly easygoing and neutral about their understanding of responsibilities, obligations, goals, willpower and how to overcome obstacles. These types tend to focus intently on the results that can be obtained from the human drive, though this is not a top priority for them. They tend to trust in the feedback that they receive from others when inquiring in all matters related to volition.


The second result has more accurate descriptions for me, I think...But actually, the first result is also fair. Some of the questions are too vague, though that's an issue I have with most personality tests anyway.

Function block descriptions:
  • LFVE & LFEV: Unsurpassed as the technicians and administrators of technical systems. They have a reverence for instructions.
  • LFEV & FLEV: Are fascinated with the unusual ideas of others. Are quite immovable by emotional impulses of others.
  • VFEL & LFEV: Receiving joy from the world requires a lot of effort for these types, yet they prefer to try their best. To avoid losing out on their own happiness, they may over-focus on their own state of being. They may come off as rude.
Yeah, that's probably right. Lol.

Confident Logic seems similar to Socionics Ti, whereas Physics aligns with Si. Which is not bad to me, I like seeing different takes on the same basic concepts. Lol
 

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the other more serious looking test says: "You are one VELF"
 
VELFs are characterized by an ability to inspire, uplift, invigorate, and challenge others into completing tasks and goals they deem necessary. VELFs come in all shapes and sizes in the real world, though, some common fields you may find them interested in are psychology, counselling, life coaching, public speaking, event organizing, law, and human resource management. No matter the situation or event, VELFs will always be intrigued by what can be accomplished by combining human will and emotions. VELFs are true team leaders, and the classic example of a [1V] confident volition type. With the addition of [2E] flexible emotion, VELFs are inherently interested in the power that feelings and communication have for achieving goals. For this reason, it’s quite obvious to those who surround the VELF that they are qualified to lead people. VELFs rarely take into considering the goals of their peers, unless it specifically coincides with their own. However, this type has the ability to turn any sort of negative judgment of other’s capabilities into a constructive criticism that encourages cooperation. Since this type is characterized by [2E] flexible emotion, they often take a laid back approach toward extreme displays of emotion. Regardless if someone is a misanthropist, or a believer in humanity – the VELF will encourage them to flourish in their relationships with others, as there’s always some sort of personal gain in communication. Like all [1V] confident volition types, VELFs may be prone to domineering, oppressive, or overzealous behavior when they have a goal in mind. They can be marred by burning bridges and marching exclusively to the beat of their own drum. Skepticism toward details, what’s true or untrue, may plague the minds of VELFs as they normally do not feel secure in their intellect. VELFs may rectify their un-assured attitude toward the logical realm by spending extra time in academia, or ignoring it completely. No matter what the strategy is to deal with their [3L] insecure logic, there will always remain some sort of negative dissonance toward the science of epistemology. The unorthodox aspect of VELFs attitude toward logic, is their fascination with that which is unusual. With an increased desire to communicate with others while pushing their own will, VELFs may fall into a cycle of obsession over the logical inner workings of their disposition. VELFs spend so much time energizing, completing goals, and understanding how they can push their will in the social realm, that they may completely forget that objects are what the world is made of. Like other [4F] oblivious physics types, VELFs may wait until the last possible moment to fix things before they become a dangerous hazard. Broken phones, unchecked car maintenance, and malfunctioning appliances may riddle their lives if they do not live with or depend on any strong physics types. The VELF will deal with the material and physical world as problems arise, solely to support their results oriented desires. If the stage needs to be built in order to make that speech, it shall be built. Otherwise, it’s an object of little value to be forgotten until another day.
 


So I would need to mix up my both results and then I will finally know my real result!!!
E = 4+3 = 7
L= 3+2 = 5
V= 4+2 = 6
F= 1+1= 2
So maybe I'm EVLF. Does someone have the description?

Wait, i have it myself.

1E – Confident Emotion Openly express their interest in any subject or lack thereof. Will walk you through their emotions and how they feel about anything or anyone. Often give out advice on handling or dealing with a relationship. Understand the importance of culture and focus on translating cultural practices into meaningful endeavors. Are quick to dole out value judgments, express anger, sadness, concern, and all emotions. May act as they see fit in any situation regardless of what the other party feels is emotionally appropriate. Can openly refuse to conform to social norms in regards to their emotional state. Do not feel like they owe anyone any explanations on how they feel, though this does not stop them from explaining their emotions to others. Trust their own intuition and sense of right and wrong – which is always involved in their worldview. Are guided by their inner intuitions about people and use this to deal with friendships and relationships. Do not respond well to continuous questions of their feelings and constant attempts at redefining relationships. Can lead spiritual movements and guide others into new and uncharted emotional territories. Expect that others feel the same way as they do. Dislike to be constantly questioned or challenged about their emotions – will double down on said emotion. Prefer to view relationships as static and are quick to change their mind if things sour too quickly on the other end. May obsess over certain kinds of art, music, or people. Are intensely and profoundly affected by emotional landscapes. Relate all incoming experiences into how they make them feel over many axes. The 1E function is formed by combining the emotion aspect (E) with the confident attitude (1st). Confident emotion (1E) has a strong interest in one’s own concept of emotions. All 1E types are sufficient at being involved in matters relating to the emotional world. They may be aggressive about their opinions on relationships, personal feelings, culture, art, deep desires, and person to person interaction. These types tend to focus intently on the personal results that can be obtained from the emotional world which they use to solidify their opinion on these matters. 2V – Flexible Volition Enjoy engaging with the crowd and understanding what it is that motivates people as a whole. Will negotiate responsibilities and are often accepting of excuses so long as they make sense and are explained. Can endlessly accept others’ laziness – even until it hurts the goal. Often hide disappointment and sour feelings towards others’ laziness and disrespect. Can listen to all sides of a power struggle and learn how to keep people effectively working together. Can sometimes be lazy and unbothered by the lack of momentary energy. Enjoy being motivational and a leader – constantly updating and inviting feedback on how to improve. Naturally balance out obligations in life. Know how to calm down the anxiety of a room when the pressure to perform is on. Are always willing to listen to others’ life struggles. Often want to discuss how to get things done and what has worked for them in the past. May prefer talking about *how* to improve rather than putting in the actual work. Endlessly diplomatic with others who are in power – always willing to give and take when needed. The 2V function is formed by combining the volition aspect (V) with the flexible attitude (2nd). Flexible volition (2V) has a strong and open interest in all things related to the human drive. All 2V types are sufficient at being involved in matters relating to what makes up one’s identity. They are mostly diplomatic about their opinions on responsibilities, obligations, goals, willpower and how to overcome obstacles. These types tend to focus intently on processing, improving and negotiating all things related to the human drive. They use this ability to keep others at ease on all matters related to volition (V). 3L – Insecure Logic Very skeptical of all logical thought. Unsure of how to organize information and ideas. May spiral into anxiety when thinking about intellectual pursuits. Feel trapped when expected to offer in depth explanations. May choose to obsess over formal logic or reject it all together. Are very sensitive to criticism of their ideas and being told they are incorrect. Prefer to engage with others about the tenets of logic so long as they are communicative. Tend to spend hours rewriting any sort of opinion piece. Have a distrust of their own concept of reality. Can get pulled into religious zealotry and cult ideology as a place-marker for lack of assured logical thought. Worry about the meaning of life and existence. Prefer to check in with others rather than openly assert their opinions. Feel regret when they make their academic work public. When speaking, can overemphasize odd and out of place words. Have a hard time understanding how language and communication are developed. Often have a fascination with foreign language but insecurity in expressing thoughts outside of their native tongue. Overthink almost everything they communicate. Can be prone to aiding conspiracy theories and distrust of popular sources of information. See the underlying negative possibilities that others ignore or miss. May become trapped in negative thought loops. Twist or misrepresent others’ logical explanations through their own language rather than how they were initially presented. Have a hard time trusting in their memory when it comes to detailed logic – which can lead to repetition and obsession. The 3L function is formed by combining the logic aspect (L) with the insecure attitude (3rd). Insecure logic (3L) has an apprehensive and unsure attitude towards all logical concepts. All 3L types are insufficient at being involved in matters relating to the logical realm. They are mostly anxious about their opinions of higher knowledge, political arguments, scientific thought and their own abilities to reason. These types tend to have a shaky and unstable relationship with how they process and logically organize the world around them. They tend to need clarification and feedback from others when engaging in all matters related to logic. 4F – Oblivious Physics Unattached to the physical world around them. Have a very hard time paying attention to own comfort levels. May miss opportunities on bettering their living environment. Can forget to fix or upgrade necessities. Leave belongings lying around until they become a hazard. Have an easy time adapting to others’ physical and practical needs. Ability to relax anywhere, regardless of activities going on around them. Will engage in practical living when it supports a particular goal or other life interest. May form habits at a young age to deal with the obliviousness to their health. Will try any sort of new food or style and form an opinion after experiencing it. Have to experiment often to figure out their personal tastes. Do not like to go in depth about their food preferences. Averse to being reminded of practical measures that need completed. Forget to schedule doctor check-ups and follow-ups. Have an ability to detach from what is going on around them to dive into the intuitive nature of the moment. Do not notice dust, clutter, or filth unless it’s directly impeding a project or goal. Trust in the practical advice they receive. Do not usually care about the value of objects and possessions. Usually have an odd and unorthodox sense of style. Tend to completely forget how much money they have. Can lose track of their belongings until later stumbled upon – usually by surprise. Accept food and comfort from others without hassle or second thought. Rarely picky about where they are located in a public space. The 4F function is formed by combining the physics aspect (F) with the oblivious attitude (4th). Oblivious physics (4F) has an ignorant and carefree attitude towards all concepts of the physical world. All 4F types are insufficient at being involved in matters relating to the material world. They are mostly easygoing and neutral about their opinions on tastes, belongings, comforts, aesthetics and practical skills. These types tend to focus intently on the results that can be obtained from the material world, though this is not a top priority for them. They tend to trust in the feedback that they receive from others when inquiring in all matters related to physics.

I have no idea if mixing up this shit was a good idea btw haha

Edit: How do I do spoiler? :shocked:

Second quiz I took was this btw https://uquiz.com/PZOXHG/attitudinal-psyche-type-indicator
 

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LEVF
The main objective for the LEVF is to comprehend the laws, ideas and knowledge of the world around them. Therefore, LEVF very often go into scientific fields, especially in computer science and information technology. They are also characterized by their extremely subtle perception of the ideologies of creating chaos into order. It is no coincidence that Lewis Carroll is one of the most outstanding representatives of this type, not only was he a professional mathematician, but the writer of a whimsical and unusual book called “Alice in Wonderland”, many of his books would reflect creative thinking and strong use of the imagination. LEVF are open to the feelings of other people, perfectly being able to empathize in a very altruistic manner, ready to help those who need their help. For LEVF, they place a lot of fidelity to one’s word, listening to the entire conversation and never doubt the feelings of the other person even once. They can still sympathize with such perceived tragedies, even if the situation is not that hopeless; the feeling despair is universal and the LEVF understands that. When the LEVF is given very difficult life-changing decisions, especially those that are against high ethical standards to themselves and others, this will lead to a certain predominance of a melancholic mood in the LVEF. It is especially difficult for the LEVF to handle the transference of guilt from other people. It is often that the LEVF prefers to hide away in solitude as a result, voluntarily preferring to live a secluded life. LEVF invests into material world with minimum requirements, their belongings are often very austere and they prefer casual clothes that help them blend into the crowd. Actually, their penchant for stealth is due to their low willpower and physics, that causes their desire to be alone. On the other hand, focusing on the minimum value of the material world and the fact that they see the imperfections of the world around them; they try to minimize contact with the external world.

It makes sense, though I can also imagine ELVF. But I do think that's an okay order--logic/emotion then volition then physical reality.
 
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