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Schizos and bipolars can have near perfect personalities. I'd be extremely hesitant about dating a pd. Btw, sorry I'm not pc, but pc is bs. Call me "crazy" and I'll just say "Well I was before my pills."
 

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What about it?
 

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Do schizophrenia and bipolar disorder have so little effect on the personality? I don't know anything about bipolar disorder, but it seems that something as pervasive as schizophrenia would leave a distinctive mark on the personality even with medication.
 

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Do schizophrenia and bipolar disorder have so little effect on the personality? I don't know anything about bipolar disorder, but it seems that something as pervasive as schizophrenia would leave a distinctive mark on the personality even with medication.
Well having schizophrenia affects my cognitive functioning more than anything being on meds as I am. I can be functioning very intelligently at times, and other times I just can't think. I get nervous overload or overstimulation easily and end up having to pull back. Whereas say I was mentally retarded I'd just always be functioning at a lower level, but I'd feel less stress. That's basically how I'd explain it.
My gf has bipolar. Her moods can be hyper sometimes and she won't sleep much. It starts to affect her cognitive functioning after a while. But there won't be anything inherently fucked up or disturbing about her personality makeup, like her inner motivations, defenses, etc. Other times she'll be depressed and isolate. But either way there isn't anything inherently really awful about her actual personality. Its more of a mood issue.
I mean if by "personality" you mean how we cognitively function, our moods, and our behaviors, then yes these things affect our personalities. But if by "personality" you mean the purity of our motives, what deep inner defenses we might happen to have, you know, the "deep" stuff, then we aren't really much different from normies. The "deep" stuff I mentioned is what's messed up in personality disorders. Hmm.....Almost kinda sounds like the difference between MBTI and the enneagram.
 

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One thing I might say is that certain personality disorders might be more exclusive to certain enneatypes, whereas stuff like bipolar and schizophrenia doesn't discriminate about enneatypes.
 

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With my diagnosis there came recommendations that only specialists should work with me. The exact reason as to why has not been stated, but what has been stated is that I among other things show a "remarkable" ability to reflect, which can be a rare combination with my disorder. It is possible they deem me at risk of manipulating an inexperienced psychologist, or that carelessness on behalf of the inexperienced psychologist could cause myself or others harm. Whatever the case, I assume it textbook precaution. I do know one thing for certain, and that is that I cannot have a female psychologist. There's an intimacy barrier there that cannot be broken, and if broken, would make us both end up on the news. Although close friends have compared me to certain villains, I personally don't view myself as manipulative, or particularly mastermind-ish as they suggest. I would never rationalize or excuse my behavior on the disorder, or on a lack of medication, nor would I classify the disorder as central to my personality, which is why I don't normally bother bringing it up. I am also highly aware of it, and knows what triggers my psychoses, allowing me to avoid paths that may lead to them.

Your comparison is more amusing to me than insulting. It is phrased in the form of a principle, effectively disallowing endorsement or rebuke. There's nothing wrong with bringing up your psychotic disorder, but you bring it up frequently, and often in the same "tone". The frequency suggest to me that the act of sharing the information isn't working as intended, and the tone makes me question how comfortable you really are with sharing. I quite like you, and am by no means on the defense or offense, so let me know if I'm being too presumptuous or if I'm making you feel uncomfortable. What I'm interested in is this. Do you find that focusing on your psychotic disorder helps you keep it under control, or is medication enough? Do you consider it problematic, or merely others misconception of it as problematic? And do you perhaps have a goal in mind when you share this information?
 

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@Skimt I think medication and a little self-awareness is really all I need to keep it under control. For example I've found that I don't need a good night's sleep every night, I can get drunk about once a week, get stoned once every week or two, and it doesn't throw me off the deep end. But I also know I can't go too long without decent sleep. I also know that getting drunk every 3 nights or getting high every day could be detrimental to my mental health. I also know never to mix large quantities of both weed and alcohol at the same time. I've experimented enough to know better. But I can get high some days, then come down for like 45 minutes, then start drinking. I call those days "doubletakes". I know I can handle being around crowds of people, or be around certain people, but I always need time to myself to recover. If I don't get time alone sometimes my mind can just get overwhelmed and it makes it a lot more difficult for me to function normal. Those are all examples of how being aware of my mental health is important. But Idk if you'd consider that focusing on my illness. My illness is only potentially problematic if shit happens that hinders my ability to live life the way I've been living it. For example if I'm forced into a bad med change, forced to stay in a psych ward, stripped of my disability benefits, etc., only because other people think that's what's best. I'm an honest person as I say 99.7% of the time, but I will bullshit to psychiatrists, county workers, cops, etc. if I feel I have to in order to keep my way of life from being threatened. Other people's misconceptions of my illness can also be problematic if they have power over me for the reasons I explained basically. Or just a general bias in society toward my illness can greatly affect me because attitudes and biases are contagious and can affect my fate. When I share this info its because I enjoy sharing it, and I'm also kind of saying "So you think you know schizophrenia? Well here I am, a schizo, and this is how I am. If its different from what you imagine a schizo to be, then perhaps I'm allowing you to see us schizos more as individuals instead of stereotypes or whatever you were thinking."
 
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@Skimt Btw, thanks for the compliment. Compliments do help me in life.
 
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One thing I might say is that certain personality disorders might be more exclusive to certain enneatypes, whereas stuff like bipolar and schizophrenia doesn't discriminate about enneatypes.
I wouldn't say so. That's assuming enneagrams carrying any weight when it comes to personality disorders.
 

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I wouldn't say so. That's assuming enneagrams carrying any weight when it comes to personality disorders.
Well I guess we can agree to disagree. I for example think someone with antisocial personality disorder is much more likely to be an 8 than say a 1, and someone with borderline personality disorder is much more likely to be a 4 than a 7, etc. It only makes sense.
 

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I know that this thread is not talking about self-diagnosing or psychology kind of thing but...

whenever I'm trying to sleep or when it's quite I tend to hear noises (whether it's a crowded, yelling, or even calling my name). I'm not making this up, this is true because Ive been experiencing this since I was a child and I could only stating that this thing is normal and could only believe that everyone experiencing this.

but the thing is that, I don't making those voices to appear in my head, it just came like that and I thought at first it was a something under my bed or a tv sounds. or maybe it's just a connection before I passed out between me and my dream state(?) that sounds ridiculous.

it only happens when it's silence or when I'm trying to sleep (even at the hotels or/and any kinds of places)

Ive read article about it, and some say that it's not common but it's not schizophrenic (I'm glad). it's just an auditory halucinations (which means I'd be suffering from psychosis). it's whenever I'm trying to sleep (not that sleepy but in relax condition) and when it's quiet/silence.

also some say that I have a "Exploding head syndrom" which means that u hear loud noises or loud people yelling or exploding sounds whenever ure connected to ur dream state (half sleeping ).

That's kind of scaring me at first, I'm glad that I'm not schizophrenic. but it must be hard for u to have this kind of illness, can't imagine how to deal with it everyday.
 

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I know that this thread is not talking about self-diagnosing or psychology kind of thing but...

whenever I'm trying to sleep or when it's quite I tend to hear noises (whether it's a crowded, yelling, or even calling my name). I'm not making this up, this is true because Ive been experiencing this since I was a child and I could only stating that this thing is normal and could only believe that everyone experiencing this.

but the thing is that, I don't making those voices to appear in my head, it just came like that and I thought at first it was a something under my bed or a tv sounds. or maybe it's just a connection before I passed out between me and my dream state(?) that sounds ridiculous.

it only happens when it's silence or when I'm trying to sleep (even at the hotels or/and any kinds of places)

Ive read article about it, and some say that it's not common but it's not schizophrenic (I'm glad). it's just an auditory halucinations (which means I'd be suffering from psychosis). it's whenever I'm trying to sleep (not that sleepy but in relax condition) and when it's quiet/silence.

also some say that I have a "Exploding head syndrom" which means that u hear loud noises or loud people yelling or exploding sounds whenever ure connected to ur dream state (half sleeping ).

That's kind of scaring me at first, I'm glad that I'm not schizophrenic. but it must be hard for u to have this kind of illness, can't imagine how to deal with it everyday.
Well for me it wasn't exactly hearing voices when I was ill. It was more like having intrusive thoughts in my head that I thought were telepathically coming from other people. It was to the point that I was spending every awake minute each day having imaginary conversations in my head that I thought were real. But a lot of schizos do actually hear voices. A schizo's symptoms are as individual as the individual person.
 

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@Bellerixx It sounds like what you have might be kinda like falling asleep dreams. Idk what the clinical term is exactly. Some people have falling asleep dreams where they'll actually see very vivid people or things in their room that aren't there, but they'll still be asleep enough that they'll be paralyzed and can't move. My mom and brother have both had those. I think that's all the sightings of the little green aliens that a lot of people see are. Your experiences might have a completely different root cause though. Idk.
 
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@Bellerixx It sounds like what you have might be kinda like falling asleep dreams. Idk what the clinical term is exactly. Some people have falling asleep dreams where they'll actually see very vivid people or things in their room that aren't there, but they'll still be asleep enough that they'll be paralyzed and can't move. My mom and brother have both had those. I think that's all the sightings of the little green aliens that a lot of people see are. Your experiences might have a completely different root cause though. Idk.
maybe, but it also happens when I'm not laying in bed too (like I said, when It's quiet, or when I'm usually alone in a room, quiet) I tend to hear people talk, crowds, random noises or even calling my names. it always happens, that's why I usually hear music whenever it's quiet or before I sleep. (it happens when I'm laying in bed trying to sleep). yeah, could be. I don't know much about it maybe I should go to therapist and talk about this instead of diagnosing myself and keep talking about this to my friends. they tend to freak out about it.

they may say I'm crazy or "making things up". which actually I've been thinking that it's normal and I thought everyone also experiencing this kind of thing when it's quiet or when they just lay in bed (even when I'm still awake and not sleepy but before I passed out/sleep).

so not when I'm sleepy. it's when I'm just laying in bed (facing to one side, still hear it).
 

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Well I guess we can agree to disagree. I for example think someone with antisocial personality disorder is much more likely to be an 8 than say a 1, and someone with borderline personality disorder is much more likely to be a 4 than a 7, etc. It only makes sense.
There's a difference between saying "more likely" and "more exclusive".
 

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