So was mine hah. I wasn't even thinking of antagonistic stalking when you mentioned "opponent".
No shit, Sherlock.
Because ESTJs are the type to directly ask out whoever they're interested in, unlike "certain" types who prefer a more ambiguous approach (too ambiguous as we can see from your response). Which is entirely what my post was alluding to.
And why would ESTJs be so straight forward. This doesn't make any sense.
It was tongue-in-cheek - stalking is criminal behavior after all.
Unless you are in Chernobyl and are having cheeki breeki time. While having crush on man called Strelok.
But I'd be lying if I said I didn't have that tendency hehe What can I say, I'm an INFP!
That's type unspecific stuff.
Sigh That's what I love about you guys. It's very innocent and brings out a motherly spirit in me.
It can in other ways. If ESTJ is overconfident bastard, then Fi will be poorly controlled and making decisions about many things. Most of them will suck, would be black or white, but barely grey (that's hypothetical).
If I may offer a perspective on how...or rather who...to go about sharing your emotions to.
There's no need for that, but that can't be stopped now...
This is my completely uneducated analysis of the cognitive functions at play
I would say that cognitive functions shouldn't be integrated in our analysis as it's almost always better to just think like normal human. From what I have seen, integrating cognitive function theory often makes situations look very different and not realistic. I would stay away from those as that limits my human capabilities. Typology only is interested in very narrow field of human mind mechanics. And feeling like it's a big thing is foolish.
...What you're after is someone to understand how you'e feeling about your loss (satisfies Fi) and approve and validate it completely (satisfies Te). I believe this is the source of the vulnerability for ExTJs, especially since they can't always understand let alone explain the depth of their pain.
They can, but not with great stability. Not sure if Fi would like someone else intruding in their life. It's rather secretive and alone function, delicate to service.
If the Te approval is not met, it will severely hurt your Fi. Ti-Fe works in the reverse, to understand a concept (Ti) and for the collective to decide on how to feel about it (Fe). With Fe...the verbal etiquette surrounding death can sometimes feel hollow, and some people are dismissive and don't understand others' grieving process. And that's why it's important to have someone in your life that you trust completely, even if just one or two people.
That doesn't explain anything. You kept talking about Fe and magically there's a need for understanding person. Maybe to Fi Fe approach can look shallow, but yet again it depends. I felt almost nothing in church, but when I got to that house. The house those grandparents were living and I spent my childhood summers into. I couldn't handle. Memories were fresh, I saw some of his things, like clothes, glasses. It felt like he should be here, but he wasn't. That was very hard to see, I sat down on chair in the kitchen (first room after little corridor in that house). I couldn't handle that and tears started to flow. That was my weakest moment. Now I sort of remember things that he did or how he did some stuff. It's a village, so lots of things had to be done outside. Even if it's wrong to say, I will say that he was to me more of father figure than my own father. I still know more about him as person than I do about my own father. I can tell you more, but I don't think I need. You can see that Fi here isn't handicapped thing at all, only not preferred way of dealing with things. I have told whole story to one person in perC. So I had a person to which I could tell everything. I can say that what I wrote about the death and my feelings, could qualify as art. Even if Fi 4th, it can shine more than some people's 1st.
What that trustworthiness looks like is that even if they don't immediately understand what you're going through, they will believe you when you say you're hurting very deeply and ask questions if necessary. You want to find someone who takes an interest in your life and asks a lot of questions about you. Understanding is really the key to feeling comforted.
Possibly, but person can't be from my relatives. Grandma almost needs help herself due to loss, mom doesn't have a good emotional support capabilities. Dad is too unknown person (this is his father who is dead).
I see ESTJs with people in their life who are just there because of what they can do for them, nothing more. But do they care to really know on a deep level who is the person who's doing all these things for them, and more importantly, how are they feeling? No.
I dunno if I want to agree with that. You may be a bit too harsh about other people, but what you say holds some truth. Not many are willing to investigate with what person they are with. I personally dumped natural human desire to reach for success, like money, house, car... All that stuff to low level or to sensoric appreciation level only. I hold feeling at higher value. I often feel not so good, when people only care about grades, what you achieve in your life. I feel that this is wrong to ignore the wonders of other people, that have no monetary value. Many things can't be counted with paper. We do enjoy many things that affect us differently. I think I seek that. I sort of started to hate school for not focusing much on anything else, but grades. It feels disgusting that the only thing we are trying to achieve in that place is just how to score higher on some meaningless stuff. I'm a bad student. I have no attitude to just learn, but I may have entered a secret stage of learning the stuff that many others don't even think about. I sort of became a vandal. Started to vandalise some property, destroy things. Not a lot, just a bit. Totally not a great thing to do, but still even in there I can only see the same pattern. You destroy property and you are bad person, but what's lacking is some thoughts about "bad people". No one cares if you have problems, somewhat want to express yourself. You can be either good or bad, based on way too simplicistic logic. No one cares to investigate those works that are bad as something more neutral, worth to be investigated further. Hell, even my username should suggest something. It's my best attempt at defining me and it's The red spirit. Deep philosophy of life with unique desires. I changed my type to ESTJ some days ago, not sure if I should have done that. My previous type was ISTP. I always feel like some great things about person aren't defined by type. Those noobs, who enter MBTI world and think this is some mega cool godsent stuff are likely the worst thing to happen. Some dudes wanted to touch the depths of the people, but rarely anyone wants to investigate further. Then later some people believe it's the greatest touch of depth to ever exist. That's not true. Not true at all, but who understand that? WHO!? Almost no one.
