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One:
http://personalitycafe.com/type-1-f...e-beliefs-1s-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-1-f...rvation-ones-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-1-forum-reformer/351426-sexual-ones-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-1-f...according-beatrice-chestnut.html#post24106618

Two:
http://personalitycafe.com/type-2-f...e-beliefs-2s-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-2-f...rvation-twos-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-2-f...according-beatrice-chestnut.html#post24108506
http://personalitycafe.com/type-2-forum-helper/723250-social-twos-according-beatrice-chestnut.html

Three:

http://personalitycafe.com/type-3-f...e-beliefs-3s-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-3-f...ation-threes-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-3-f...exual-threes-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-3-forum-achiever/735001-social-3-according-beatrice-chestnut.html

Four:
http://personalitycafe.com/type-4-f...e-beliefs-4s-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-4-f...-description-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-4-f...-description-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-4-f...-description-according-beatrice-chestnut.html

Five:
http://personalitycafe.com/type-5-f...e-beliefs-5s-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-5-f...according-beatrice-chestnut.html#post24110426
http://personalitycafe.com/head-tri...sexual-fives-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/head-tri...social-fives-according-beatrice-chestnut.html

Six:
http://personalitycafe.com/type-6-f...re-beliefs-6-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-6-f...vation-sixes-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-6-f...sexual-sixes-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-6-f...social-sixes-according-beatrice-chestnut.html

Seven:
http://personalitycafe.com/type-7-f...e-beliefs-7s-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-7-f...according-beatrice-chestnut.html#post24110738
http://personalitycafe.com/type-7-f...exual-sevens-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-7-f...ocial-sevens-according-beatrice-chestnut.html

Eight:
http://personalitycafe.com/type-8-f...e-beliefs-8s-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-8-f...servation-8s-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-8-f...exual-eights-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-8-f...ocial-eights-according-beatrice-chestnut.html

Nine:
http://personalitycafe.com/type-9-f...e-beliefs-9s-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-9-f...vation-nines-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-9-f...according-beatrice-chestnut.html#post24111738
http://personalitycafe.com/type-9-f...social-nines-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
 

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Beatrice Chestnut's book is available here:
The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge


Thanks to:

@Swordsman of Mana
- for typing up all nine threads on "core beliefs."

@leadintea and @Ollyx2OxenFree
- for typing up most of these

@Superfluous
- for typing up all three 7 descriptions in an alternate thread, here:
http://personalitycafe.com/type-7-f...en-subtypes-acccording-beatrice-chestnut.html

@haephestia
- for typing up the Sp 8 description


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@Jennynaughty @hal0hal0

sticky please ^_^
 

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If Chestnut's descriptions are accurate, then this helps confirm that I'm 7w6 so with a healthy dose of sx. Those descriptions are on point, anyhow. In recent years I've really started to notice my sx going nuts in my head, but being quieted by my so (if I'm understanding this stuff correctly).

One question I have for anybody who may be able to answer: do you think that social 7s hit their stress arrow to 1 more often than the other subtypes?

Thanks for this!
 

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I really can not agree with the description of sexual 1..it is like describing all the zealots and extremists by a simplistic description.I respect her knowledge..but sexual 1 description is off the mark.It is like this:all sexual 1s are somewhat bigot and zealot and all zealot and bigoted jackassees are sexual 1s!
 

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If Chestnut's descriptions are accurate, then this helps confirm that I'm 7w6 so with a healthy dose of sx. Those descriptions are on point, anyhow. In recent years I've really started to notice my sx going nuts in my head, but being quieted by my so (if I'm understanding this stuff correctly).

One question I have for anybody who may be able to answer: do you think that social 7s hit their stress arrow to 1 more often than the other subtypes?
I tihink they do it more definitely..
 

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I really can not agree with the description of sexual 1..it is like describing all the zealots and extremists by a simplistic description.I respect her knowledge..but sexual 1 description is off the mark.It is like this:all sexual 1s are somewhat bigot and zealot and all zealot and bigoted jackassees are sexual 1s!
I didn't see bigotry and zealotry... I saw tremendous frustration about perfectionism and zeal about whatever their ideals are. Animal in heat, etc. I thought it was accurate for Sx 1s I know, and they aren't bigots or religious zealots.
 

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I didn't see bigotry and zealotry... I saw tremendous frustration about perfectionism and zeal about whatever their ideals are. Animal in heat, etc. I thought it was accurate for Sx 1s I know, and they aren't bigots or religious zealots.
Then its ok..I saw it from a different point of view..but though Sx 1s are indeed most frustrated of 1s..but they are actually more helpful than other 1 subtypes..and I definitely correct myself before correcting others..that hurt me most.
 
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Sp4 description link isn't formatted properly.
Dammit.. I went out of my way to change that a few times when I first posted, and then it was formatted correctly, and now it's wrong again..what the hell >.<

Thanks.. It's too late for me to edit and I don't know why it changed again, so I'm not sure what to do..
 

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Dammit.. I went out of my way to change that a few times when I first posted, and then it was formatted correctly, and now it's wrong again..what the hell >.<

Thanks.. It's too late for me to edit and I don't know why it changed again, so I'm not sure what to do..
Found it! The formatting's right, but there's an L letter at the end of the word preservation.

Code:
http://personalitycafe.com/type-4-forum-individualist/211242-self-preservation[B]l[/B]-four-description-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-4-forum-individualist/211242-self-preservation-four-description-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-4-f...-description-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-4-f...-description-according-beatrice-chestnut.html

A mod can fix this easily, right? @grinchintrees?
 

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Found it! The formatting's right, but there's an L letter at the end of the word preservation.

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http://personalitycafe.com/type-4-forum-individualist/211242-self-preservati[COLOR=#FF8C00]on[B]l[/B]-[/COLOR]four-description-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-4-forum-individualist/211242-self-preservation-four-description-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-4-f...-description-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-4-f...-description-according-beatrice-chestnut.html

A mod can fix this easily, right? @grinchintrees?
Thanks - it needs to be fixed on the Type 4 index as well, because the same change happened after I fixed it initially.

http://personalitycafe.com/type-4-forum-individualist/657658-enneagram-type-4-index.html
 

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Found it! The formatting's right, but there's an L letter at the end of the word preservation.

Code:
http://personalitycafe.com/type-4-forum-individualist/211242-self-preservation[B]l[/B]-four-description-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-4-forum-individualist/211242-self-preservation-four-description-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-4-f...-description-according-beatrice-chestnut.html
http://personalitycafe.com/type-4-f...-description-according-beatrice-chestnut.html

A mod can fix this easily, right? @grinchintrees?
Fixed!
 

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I actually also saw tremendous frustration and zeal about our ideals. But I see that from other people's pov, they will think we are zealots and all. And tbh I think sp1 have it worse than sx1 in terms of frustration bcos they can rly get fed up with themselves and their lives bcos of the imperfections. I also correct myself at the same time im correcting others. I think what Beatrice Chestnut is trying to mean is that we correct others more than we correct ourselves. But cheers to a fellow sx1 :)
 
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