[dagnytaggart]

Bäh. Any of you have this problem?

I'll walk across a carpet & not notice a blueberry on the floor, but my ISFJ roommate catches it instantly & bitches me out for not noticing it.

Today I was with a friend (ESTJ) at a casino, and we got lost from each other. While trying to locate her, I got distracted by a Discover magazine (lmao yes at a casino,,,NERD) at a newstand and didn't hear/notice the building page calling my name... TWICE! Good thing I had the car, cause she'd understandably ditch me after that if she did. Then I had to listen to her scream and whine.

Why do I have such problems with common sense? Is it purely that I'm mentally impaired (I was diagnosed ADHD), is this common with ENTPs, or am I actually INFP?

 

[Vaka]

or am I actually INFP?

Yep, you're an INFP!

Is it purely that I'm mentally impaired (I was diagnosed ADHD)

I was diagnosed with ADD but highly suspect that I really have ADHD. Try some medication. I know that when I don't take my medication(it works for both ADD and ADHD), I'm overly flighty and miss obvious things :bored:

 

[YourMom]

what's the difference between add/adhd and normal entp hyperactivity/care-freeness?

 

[SomeRandomGuy18]

Don't take the medication for ADHD. It's related closely to methamphetamine and it's not good for your brain at all. Just tough it out.

 

[Vaka]

Don't take the medication for ADHD. It's related closely to methamphetamine and it's not good for your brain at all. Just tough it out.

Why is it not good for your brain?
I tried managing my symptoms before. I'm not doing that again.

And I just want to point out that there are some non-stimulant medications also. Of course, those don't work for me lol

 

[vel]

I call it the "ooo look at the shiny" syndrome. Meds can help mellow it down but you cannot be on medication forever (and also a lot of the medication hasn't been tested long term, may be it dissolves your brain after 20 years and nobody taking it now would know). So just train your mind to think more linearly and be more disciplined - if you want inspiration watch some movies about samurai and how they had to have discipline and stay focused to be good at what they do, and just follow their example. And also SJ friends help. You may call it bitching but ultimately the blueberry was prevented from staining the carpet and you didn't get ditched at the casino.

 

[SomeRandomGuy18]

Why is it not good for your brain?
I tried managing my symptoms before. I'm not doing that again.

And I just want to point out that there are some non-stimulant medications also. Of course, those don't work for me lol

Because amphetamine (Adderall) is neurotoxic. So is Ritalin.

 

[ENTPreneur]

During my entire childhood I never paid much attention since my head were in the clouds... Someone drove me and I did not notice the surroundings or landmarks. Thus I never learned to find my way. When older, well I am still not especially good at it, but I do it now, since I have to.

It is a bit interesting that you did not notice the blueberry. Either you were distracted by other stuff, or had some heavy-focused thought process in your mind, OR you are not extroverted... I see and notice almost everything.

You could also be very young of course... I took me aloooong time to get to where I am today... Longer than for my friends.

 

[ENTPreneur]

As a tip for ADHD: Meditation and Martial arts. If possible, dont do drugs. The diagnose ADHD is still speculative: some scientists/psychologists state that it simply does not exist but is more of a label to stick to those out of the "normal2-circel...

 

[Vaka]

Because amphetamine (Adderall) is neurotoxic. So is Ritalin.

Not all medications are the same...

As a tip for ADHD: Meditation and Martial arts. If possible, dont do drugs. The diagnose ADHD is still speculative: some scientists/psychologists state that it simply does not exist but is more of a label to stick to those out of the "normal2-circel...

As of right now, I'm taking medication. I don't plan on doing that forever, of course.

 

[WildWinds]

Doctors/teachers have tried to diagnose me with ADD before, but honestly its a bunch of BS. I do believe that its a true disorder that exists, I've tutored a little boy who actually ha ADHD before, its intense. But its extremely misdiagnosed.

For me personally, its how my mind works. I have a multi track mind, I can get side tracked with just a single word. I blame the Ne. Managing it is a matter of discipline...Making a mental note of my idea and dealing with it later.

But yeah, I'm the same way. It used to bug the hell out of my ESTJ stepfather because he'd spend all day working on something and I'd come in and not notice a single thing different until somebody tells me to look. And even then, sometimes it takes me a while. He'd hang a new picture on the wall or rearrange them and I could walk right through the room and not notice. I rarely notice (or care) if pictures are crooked, nor do I have much of a knack for making them straight just by eyeballing them. Sometimes somebody can be talking to me, but if I'm reading something, I won't notice.

I can be quite absentminded.

 

[Vaka]

what's the difference between add/adhd and normal entp hyperactivity/care-freeness?

I'd say it's almost felt as if my mind just doesn't want to settle at times. And I could never sit down and read books very easily because my mind would constantly wander. And ADHD is not just hyperactivity, it's impulsivity and whatnot.
With medication, I can actually focus on things and delve into them in depth much more easily. But I do naturally have those typical Ne-ish traits that could be confused for ADD.

I can see how it could be majorly misdiagnosed.

 

[yesiknowbut]

God, it's partly your problem, and to an extent we all share it and sympathise, but it's partly their problem too. They could be more tolerant.

 

[ENTrePenuer]

Bäh. Any of you have this problem?

I'll walk across a carpet & not notice a blueberry on the floor, but my ISFJ roommate catches it instantly & bitches me out for not noticing it.

Today I was with a friend (ESTJ) at a casino, and we got lost from each other. While trying to locate her, I got distracted by a Discover magazine (lmao yes at a casino,,,NERD) at a newstand and didn't hear/notice the building page calling my name... TWICE! Good thing I had the car, cause she'd understandably ditch me after that if she did. Then I had to listen to her scream and whine.

Why do I have such problems with common sense? Is it purely that I'm mentally impaired (I was diagnosed ADHD), is this common with ENTPs, or am I actually INFP?

Steretypical entp.
Drop the meds, get mindfulness training.

 

[mylifemyradio]

Not all medications are the same...


As of right now, I'm taking medication. I don't plan on doing that forever, of course.

Er, what kind of medication do you happen to be taking? You stated that non-stimulant medication don't seem to be working for you, so you must be using a stimulant.

Every single stimulant, ADD medication is from the amphetamine family. Some are dextroamphetamine, regular amphetamine, and even methamphetamine in rare cases. Either way, they're all neurotoxic for you, even though they may be different chemicals.

I wrote my 20 page senior exhibition on ADD medication, I have some knowledge of what I'm talking about. :tongue:

 

[dagnytaggart]

Yeah, I do take Ritalin. 5 mg once or twice a day. I notice a HUGE difference. I miss NOTHING when I'm on the stuff. I wasn't on it during either of the incidences I've described. My only complaint is that it makes me more drone-like; more introverted. Which is perfect when I'm trying to study for finals, but it's not fun otherwise.

The blueberry thing happened early in the morning when I indeed was lost in thought. Oh & I forgot, I was also chatting with the newsstand cashier at the casino, so that might've been the distractor.

And I'm 20, so that's more than old enough to know better.

 

[dagnytaggart]

And for those recommending martial arts, did you find that the focus/discipline you used in the arena carried itself out to the real world?

 

[ENTPreneur]

Yeah, I do take Ritalin. 5 mg once or twice a day. I notice a HUGE difference. I miss NOTHING when I'm on the stuff. I wasn't on it during either of the incidences I've described. My only complaint is that it makes me more drone-like; more introverted. Which is perfect when I'm trying to study for finals, but it's not fun otherwise.

The blueberry thing happened early in the morning when I indeed was lost in thought. Oh & I forgot, I was also chatting with the newsstand cashier at the casino, so that might've been the distractor.

And I'm 20, so that's more than old enough to know better.

When I was 20, I was nor particularly "wise". No 20-year old is, but I lacked maturity in some areas. Whereas in other areas I was wiser and more knowledgeable than an ancient hermit.... I cant say if it is the same for female ENTPs though...

It will get better through the years. The human brain is not fully matured until 25 , or so I have heard.

 

[yesiknowbut]

Aside musing...I wonder what it would be like to spend a day or two on ritalin. I wonder if I'd get more done?

 

[ENTPreneur]

And for those recommending martial arts, did you find that the focus/discipline you used in the arena carried itself out to the real world?

Yes. And coordination, self assurance etc. But you cant afford to let your thoughts wander in a fighting situation (randori). Or, as an ENTP, I can a bit if the opponent is not up to par. It is Mindfulness of sort... Reacting instinctively to another persons movements and reading them to anticipate the next....

Also focusing energy when striking, finding "flow" in motion and such. Works best with traditional MAs with philosophies.... Thai and MMA are a bit more brutish. But of course, the mindfulness really needs to be there.