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Well, it's only healthy to do some checking from time to time as I and @arkigos agreed upon.
Also, I just did the official test and the last time it said INTJ which was the result I used as evidence, but now it gave me another result, so yea.
I'd like to invite @Teybo to this as well. We might have had our differences in the past and disagreed upon how to go by typing people, but you seem to be quite accurate.
@myexplodingcat believes that not following a questionnaire more accurately displays your type so I won't use one this time (I like to get my hands dirty instead of just saying).

Anyways, I am now a 21 year old male from Sweden. I study social work at Mittuniversitetet in Östersund and I am currently about to start my 3rd semester (as a side note, semester actually means "vacation" in swedish).

That I am an introvert isn't really too big of a leap. I have no issue staying at home for long periods of time with limited human contact (as in only meeting people when going to the store and stuff). I am also really drained by the presence of other people, no matter how close we are.
I live in a family where my mother, father and sister are all sensors, my mother is an ISFP (unsure if she's an ISFP or ESFP atm), my father an ISTJ and my sister an ESFP.
I am a bit of an odd one out in my family as the women enjoy being social and being active, my father is always doing something in the house and I, I am just isolating myself in my room in front of my computer and dislike activities that forces me outside my room.
My mother likes to whine about me not being social enough and my father likes to comment on how unpractical I am (tho my father also makes the comment that I am better with people and stuff like that).

As far as entertainment comes, I enjoy discussions and (of course) games.
It's a bit ironic that my mother claims I am unsocial as on my train trip last week talked with an INFP friend of mine for probably at least 2 hours. It's really not that I am unsocial as much as trivial discussions bore me, I enjoy conversations where you get to know the other person and discuss ideas. Even my mother had to acknowledge when my ENTJ friend and I was talking that our discussion went to a depth that astonished her (and that she couldn't grasp).

My relationship with schedules is quite an unstable one. I like to have them as a kind of framework, but I want to move freely within it. It's really because I don't like demands tho and schedules creates a demand.
It's not as much that I don't want to do things tho as much as I can't think straight about some things some days.
But really tho, if you tell me that we should do a lot of things within a day, you will stress me up as much as if you wouldn't get to those places on time. Something I really hated and really stressed me up was when I and my INTP friend came to an agreement that we should meet 8:10 am for something that was gonna start 8:30 and he came 8:20 "because he didn't have to come earlier, we'd get on time anyways".

Also, people talk a lot about mercy vs justice and I will say like my INTP friend, when I was younger I couldn't handle doing anything bad, I always went for mercy, even in games I could reach the worst guy and if given a choice for justice or mercy I would choose mercy. These days tho, I am a lot more for justice.
An example of a game I recently played, you at a point catch a terrorist and you can choose to either kill the person or save them and I would choose save because I felt like then they could go to court instead. Tho in games like bioshock I would just save people because it would feel kinda horrible to kill those little girls out of greed.

Yes, I follow some strong values. It's not always visible, but some things touches me more than others. I for example have a real thing against the psychiatry and how they label normal people as being messed up because they don't fit into their view of a perfect society and because a lot of companies want to sell their drugs to get even more money. A lot of the things they label as disorders are just people who are different from them and in DSM V, grief is now a psychological disorder.
It's plain out silly these days.
 

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What interests you about social work? What do you hope to accomplish after your studies?
Tbh. I am uncertain of that myself.
When I am done tho with my education I will get a job dealing with kids and teenagers, was planning on a career as a school counselor, but unsure.
 

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From your debate with me, I'd say INTJ, and this kind of confirms it.

You focus a lot on your family and their different viewpoints and opinions of you, which is a very Ni way of going about this. It's also interesting that the deepest conversation you mention is with an ENTJ; I've often seen that people generally get along well with the type that's opposite them only in introversion/extroversion, often better than they get along with most other types.

Your post is also very well-structured, suggesting Te. (This might sound stereotypical... until you see a Perceiver's post. XD)

Fi is also apparent here, in a more basic way, showing up as an affinity for social work.

Of course, you could ignore me--I'm just a sixteen-year-old girl with blue hair--but that's my perspective. I think you've been spot-on with your previous identification as INTJ.
 
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You focus a lot on your family and their different viewpoints and opinions of you, which is a very Ni way of going about this. It's also interesting that the deepest conversation you mention is with an ENTJ; I've often seen that people generally get along well with the type that's opposite them only in introversion/extroversion, often better than they get along with most other types.
Well, there's a lot to this. I don't love my family, I never have. I've been abused in so many ways and I can't forgive them. To a large part because of them, I can barely feel anymore. My ENTJ friend was the first person I could feel so comfortable with that it for the first time in my life felt like I had a family. Someone who actually cared. We don't talk much these days, but he is and was like a brother to me, the one I never had.

Of course, you could ignore me--I'm just a sixteen-year-old girl with blue hair--but that's my perspective. I think you've been spot-on with your previous identification as INTJ.
Well, how could I ignore a cute little girl like you? :wink:
 

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I'd love to hear you expand more on your school work and social studies. Surely you have a reason for wanting to pursue social work and counseling other than "IDK".

Also, since I'm a bit bored and a bit curious, what is the type you got that prompted this thread? INFJ?
I'm guessing that (if you were to take a Big 5 inventory) you are more Limbic than Calm, correct? Have you considered the effect of being Limbic on your result?
 

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I'd love to hear you expand more on your school work and social studies. Surely you have a reason for wanting to pursue social work and counseling other than "IDK".

Also, since I'm a bit bored and a bit curious, what is the type you got that prompted this thread? INFJ?
I'm guessing that (if you were to take a Big 5 inventory) you are more Limbic than Calm, correct? Have you considered the effect of being Limbic on your result?
I don't actually have ambitions so there's not much of a reason. This is why I often question my choice. Because my ambition isn't around and I have no passion for any subject so I don't even know what I feel about the subject.

I scored as INTP actually this time on the test.
Also, last time I did big 5 I got RLOAI.
 

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An example of a game I recently played, you at a point catch a terrorist and you can choose to either kill the person or save them and I would choose save because I felt like then they could go to court instead. Tho in games like bioshock I would just save people because it would feel kinda horrible to kill those little girls out of greed.
It always kind of bothered me in games like Mass Effect where you would necessarily kill all the henchmen who were just doing their job, but led the bad guys go free!?! I guess that is why the newer Deus Ex was more refreshing, you could stealth through almost the whole game without killing anyone.
 

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It always kind of bothered me in games like Mass Effect where you would necessarily kill all the henchmen who were just doing their job, but led the bad guys go free!?! I guess that is why the newer Deus Ex was more refreshing, you could stealth through almost the whole game without killing anyone.
Not my style tho. I prefer cleaning house, silently. The bad guy tho shouldn't get away so easy. ;)
 

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I'm not seeing NT.

ALL of your interests involve people. All of your post involves people.

I would venture to say social work is almost NEVER INTJ or INTP. I can see a mature ENTP, with developed Fe doing social.

Go answer one of the questionaires - I like the one with the pictures.
 
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Tho with an open floor rather than INTP vs INTJ, which type do you think I likely am?
It'd be hard to convince me that you're not an NJ type, and it seems clear you're an introvert, so I'm confident that you are an IN_J of some sort. I lean toward F rather than T for you, but I also wouldn't be surprised if your preference on that dimension was better described as middle-of-the-road (INXJ) rather than F or T.
 

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It'd be hard to convince me that you're not an NJ type, and it seems clear you're an introvert, so I'm confident that you are an IN_J of some sort. I lean toward F rather than T for you, but I also wouldn't be surprised if your preference on that dimensions was better described as middle-of-the-road (INXJ) rather than F or T.
i'm not believing INTJ. I'd believe INFJ.
 

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It'd be hard to convince me that you're not an NJ type, and it seems clear you're an introvert, so I'm confident that you are an IN_J of some sort. I lean toward F rather than T for you, but I also wouldn't be surprised if your preference on that dimension was better described as middle-of-the-road (INXJ) rather than F or T.
"Middle of the road" was how it defined it when it told me I was an INTJ. It told me my preference for thinking was very slight.
Personally tho I am more of an one or the other kind of person.
 

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I'm not seeing NT.

ALL of your interests involve people. All of your post involves people.

I would venture to say social work is almost NEVER INTJ or INTP. I can see a mature ENTP, with developed Fe doing social.

Go answer one of the questionaires - I like the one with the pictures.
Well, there's an ESTJ in our class.

I'm gonna do the one by @Spades as mine might be a bit too biased.

0. Is there anything that may affect the way you answer the questions? For example, a stressful time, mental illness, medications, special life circumstances? Other useful information includes sex, age, and current state of mind.
Nothing in particular.
Atm I got a headache and I was supposed to start my internship 2 days ago, but haven't found any place that would take me yet.
I am a 21 year old male from Sweden.
Got this one running in my head (not invulentarily tho, never had music play invulentarily in my head).
and this one (WARNING: Can cause epileptic seizure):
I WANT MOAR #29

1. Click on this link: Flickr: Explore! Look at the random photo for about 30 seconds. Copy and paste it here, and write about your impression of it.
Untitled | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
There's like waves and stuff. Looks like a broad road or flood, even tho it's actually just a field. Meh.
This does make me a bit seasick tho, haha.

2. You are with a group of people in a car, heading to a different town to see your favourite band/artist/musician. Suddenly, the car breaks down for an unknown reason in the middle of nowhere. What are your initial thoughts? What are your outward reactions?

Initial reaction: Shock and confusion.
My thought process would come to a halt and then start to speed up. I would wonder what happened and get really edgy as my mind went into overdrive and might become accusing.
This completely depends on who I am with tho. If I am with my friends I will keep an appropriate appearance on the outside and stop myself from exploding outwards.

3. You somehow make it to the concert. The driver wants to go to the afterparty that was announced (and assure you they won't drink so they can drive back later). How do you feel about this party? What do you do?

I'd likely be so incredibly drained then that I would either decide to wait in the car and fall asleep there or I would take a walk in the cold night. If I've met some other nice person I might talk to that person for a long time. I am normally really drained by people, but if there's something that seems like more than just filling the silence then I can instead be rather energized. My current goal will be a large part of if I get drained or not as well. If I am looking for someone to talk to I will be energized, but if I want to do something on my own it would just bug me and drain me of people wanted to talk.
Truth is that I'd likely be the designated driver as I don't drink tho.

4. On the drive back, your friends are talking. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward reaction? What do you outwardly say?

If it wasn't a friend I would suddenly go from my rather friendly and passive self to a fierce warrior. Thing is that when I get like that I kinda half-blackout because my mouth and ears seem to work independently and I am left wondering where what I said came from.
Like a few years ago a girl and her friends sat down beside me and she talked about how a guy had called her fat (she barely had any food on her plate) and I noticed how her friends tried to change subject and ignore me and then I just lost it and held a minute long speech that left people staring at me with open mouths and the only thing she was able to say was "I'm going to get more food". I didn't even remember or know what I said, I just said something.
Just a while ago we talked about the psychiatry is Sweden in university and then again I lost it and gave some short comment about how they mark everything that doesn't fit their idea of a perfect society as disorders which made all my classmates smile and give comments of agreement.

If it was a friend tho I would likely just shut up. I've been a friend with an INTP for some time who tended to offend me a lot, but I kept my head cool all the time.
The only time I got pissed at him was when he said something like "I wouldn't be a real friend if I didn't make you taste alcohol at least once, could you do it for me?" because that made me drinking alcohol a condition for our friendship and that pissed me off. I didn't say anything tho, I just stopped talking to him for a while.

5. What would you do if you actually saw/experienced something that clashes with your previous beliefs, experiences, and habits?

Change them.
I mean, I would likely be critical and question this new information, but essentially I would accept it if it was correct.
My mother told me that she heard that not exercising could cause epilepsy when you got older, I have completely dismissed that because it sounds weird, unlikely and irrational.

6. What are some of your most important values? How did you come about determining them? How can they change?

Not values per se as much as things I stand for or against.
I am against the modern psychiatry ever since they misdiagnosed me as having ADHD when I actually have PTSD.
I am for the equality of everyone as I've seen how people of both genders can be treated differently for no solid reason.
I am against racism, sexism and other forms of discrimination.
Only the first of those could change if they actually improved.

7. a) What about your personality most distinguishes you from everyone else? b) If you could change one thing about you personality, what would it be? Why?

Not everyone else, but I am incredibly fascinated by the future and new inventions. One of my bigger dreams would be to be teleported 1 000 years into the future or more.

I would like to be less lazy, haha. I am incredibly lazy.

8. How do you treat hunches or gut feelings? In what situations are they most often triggered?

Well, I really do get a sense of if I would like or dislike something before even indulging in it and it is to a large part accurate.
Other times would be like with my random half-blackouts with values.
It also seems that things really "click" when I am doing something else. Like I abandoned the enneagram completely and even wrote posts pointing out the faults in it and then suddenly one day when I was in bed the coin just fell down and I realized I was an enneagram 8.

9. a) What activities energize you most? b) What activities drain you most? Why?

I am energized by having good discussions with people (due to the learning). I am energized by games and action.
I am drained by uninteresting (most) people, anything that has to do with being social.

10. What do you repress about your outward behavior or internal thought process when around others? Why?

I tend to analyze people a lot in a very offensive way. I will however share it if they ask, but most end up offended.
I talked with an INFJ for example who was unsure if she was an INFJ or INTJ and we talked a bit and I asked her questions and then she asked why I was asking those questions and I explained that I was analyzing her to try and find out which one she really is and due to having made it official I had to be even more pushy with my questions which caused her to lose trust in me because she almost thought I was trolling her.
 

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My guess is INFP. You made no effort to fix the car or troubleshoot the car.
everything you write is about people. and you are pretty inwardly focused on your own personal beliefs, and not too worried about society or social pressures.

I see lots of Fi. No Ti. Maybe a bit of Te.
 
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