Confused as to what my type is

stardustangel said:

That's more a stereotype about feelers.

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stardustangel said:

That's sounds very Te. So I suspect Te-Fi or Fi-Te.

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stardustangel said:

That doesn't really mean you're extrovert or introvert. When you are around people do get energized talking to them? Or drained and need time to yourself before interacting again?

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stardustangel said:

Yeah, you have Ne.

On the feeler thing they may still be finding their beliefs/morals, especially with Ne.

I'm wondering if you're a xNTP who's Fe is really coming into it's own.

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jrwhales said:

In regards to finding beliefs/morals, I'd say that politically I'm pretty much unsettled. I was raised by conservatives and followed that doctrine for a while until I reached the latter years of high school and especially to now where I find that I'm not very politically motivated at all. The best way to describe my political beliefs as they are now is something close to a libertarian, with no real clear decision on economic matters. I have a hard time judging what I think about a capitalist system that makes logical sense to me personally, but affects other people in such a negative way.

Your last point is something that I've been considering for a while, and would be consistent with the numerous times I've taken the test. I took one of the stickied thread's advice to take the test answering the opposite of what I would normally answer and tested ESFJ with near half and half introversion/extraversion. I researched "INTP with strong Fe" to see if I could relate to anyone else and read the following,

"if Fe is in the foreground for too long, I start to feel weak and lifeless, like all my energy is going towards other people and their needs, and I start to resent people for that". And this is something I completely relate to. I recently entered my first relationship, fell in love, and have completely devoted myself to my boyfriend and often go to great lengths to do things for him.

Think once I get out of class (maybe during class, lecture is going to be boring), I'll go through some of the questionnaires in the stickied threads to see if I can gain any more insight.

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Soul Kitchen said:

Yeah, you're an NP of some sort.

Introversion and extraversion aren't binary things. I for one consider myself to have a preference for extraversion because I have an appetite for novelty of ideas and experiences, and feel more energised pursuing those things than I do stewing in my own juices at home. Yet I consider myself to be fairly ambiverted despite my preference for extraversion, based on how I live from one day to the next. I've gotten used to my own company, and have learned to preoccupy myself with my own thoughts in an attempt to stave off boredom. I enjoy socialising when I have the opportunity, but I don't have many opportunities in my present life situation to socialise. I'm just throwing my experiences out there in case these are of any use to you.

I'm having second thoughts about your being an F type. It's clear that you ruminate a lot, but maybe I was in error to say you ruminated primarily on how things affected your sentiments. I'm starting to see more of a focus on inner logic instead, so you could be a TP.

So what are some scenarios in your life where you've foregone sentiment in favour of logic and the facts in decision making? What reasoning lead you to eschew your parents' conservative beliefs in favour of a libertarian outlook? You don't have to answer these questions if you don't want to, but they could help get to the core of the matter.

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jrwhales said:

For extraversion and introversion, your comment reminded me about something in particular. When discussing ideas in small group where I feel totally comfortable, I tend to listen more than I share my ideas. On average, I tend to remain silent and affirm the people I am listening to without really expanding on their ideas, but do so in my head. It's not until a particular idea that I've already thought about or an idea that really captivates my interests do I share, often in an enthusiastic manner. However, I don't think that I am used to my own company now, whereas I was when I was younger.

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Most of the following scenarios are within the immediate past, as they come to mind easier. I'll provide a few just to give you a larger scope of my decision making process.

1. I made the decision to go to class today despite the subject matter boring me to death. It's about public presenting and is a required class for me to graduate and I hate it, but go to class anyway on the chance that the professor takes attendance which has a direct impact on my grade. You could argue that decision relates to sentiments because I value good grades, however, I don't believe grades are an accurate representation of my performance in classes and instead see them as a means to an end.

2. I recently applied to be the director for an on campus organization because the former directors wanted me to be. I have no desire to be in charge of something, as that's not what I want to put my energy into. I did so for a few reasons. One, leadership positions look great on resumes. Two, I knew getting the position would be easy as I was the only applicant and I was essentially being appointed. Three, I knew that if I didn't, the organization, which is new, would more or less fall apart. I didn't want it to fall apart because then I'd need to go an make friends in another organization.

3. I made the decision to double major in cognitive science and political science after realizing that I absolutely detest political science. I could just as easily have dropped the major in favor of pursuing a single degree in cognitive science, yet realized that I could instead suffer through five more quarters of political science so I could obtain two degrees for the same amount of tuition and without wasting the money and time I'd already spent on pursuing that degree.

4. Recently decided to end my membership with a professional fraternity because my career interests no longer aligned with the purpose of the fraternity despite the personal relationships I still maintained within the group. That's not to say that I didn't burn some bridges within the group (people aren't open to alternative viewpoints), but it didn't make sense for me to pay active fees for a group that didn't serve any purpose for me.

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My proclivities for libertarian ideals mostly stem from a distaste for authority. Grew up in a conservative household with beliefs motivated by organized religion. I see organized religion's socially conservative morals as a way to exert power over a population. Despite being raised a Catholic, I consider myself agnostic and very secular as I refuse to devote myself to an authoritative being that has yet to make themselves known to the world. As such, I equate many socially conservative ideals as oppressive to individuals just trying to enjoy their lives. I want everyone else to have the freedom to do what they want to do with their lives mostly so that I can secure that I can do what I want with mine. For example if someone wants to do hard drugs, I view that as their prerogative to do so for themselves. At the same time, I personally would never do hard drugs for fear of shortening my life span or experiencing adverse health effects. Not to try and sway how you interpret this, but I will maintain the idea that it doesn't make logical sense to me to tell someone else not to do something just because I personally wouldn't.

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jrwhales said:

Figured I'd fill this out for further resources to help.

0. Is there anything that may affect the way you answer the questions? For example, a stressful time, mental illness, medications, special life circumstances? Other useful information includes sex, age, and current state of mind.
Potentially. I am a 20 year old male in college living on my own, and while I don't have any diagnosed mental illnesses, I strongly suspect I have some sort of anxiety disorder. My main mental mode is overthinking and worrying.

1. Click on this link: Flickr: Explore! Look at the random photo for about 30 seconds. Copy and paste it here, and write about your impression of it.
Can't post the link for the picture because I don't have enough posts, but it's a professional photograph of some centered pathway that curves with trees on either side. There are some leaves littering the ground and the leaves on the tree are fading from green to orange. The trees form a tunnel over the path.

My first thought was that the trees were cool because they formed a tunnel over the path. This reminded me of driving through some tunnels and wondered if the path was meant for cars, walking, or horses. I looked at the way the trees were lined up and wondered if they were planted that way or if nature grew them in such a neat fashion. Deduced that it was fall and thought about how it currently is autumn and how I won't see any leaves fall where I'm at. I don't know if it's considered cheating, but I read the description along with the photo to see where it is located and researched the location.

Not a lot of abstraction here, but you're approaching the details of the picture mechanically.

2. You are with a group of people in a car, heading to a different town to see your favourite band/artist/musician. Suddenly, the car breaks down for an unknown reason in the middle of nowhere. What are your initial thoughts? What are your outward reactions?
That we're going to have to find another way to get there. I'd probably stress out, but would be more worried about being stranded in the middle of nowhere than not being able to see my favorite artist. I hate the idea of being stuck somewhere. I'd hope that despite being in the middle of nowhere, we would have cell service to be able to call someone to tow the truck. I'd then want to get an Uber.

I don't think this indicates anything in particular.

3. You somehow make it to the concert. The driver wants to go to the afterparty that was announced (and assure you they won't drink so they can drive back later). How do you feel about this party? What do you do?
I'm probably going to be tired after the concert and won't want to go. If people want to keep the night going, I don't mind doing that but I would prefer to take it back to one of our houses to keep the rest of the night limited to the group that I'm in. Concert plus party sounds like too much. I'd rather just have one.

Likely an introvert.

4. On the drive back, your friends are talking. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward reaction? What do you outwardly say?
It piques my interest. I'd ask "why" they believe what they believe to gain an understanding. If it's based on a misunderstanding of the issue, I inform them. If it's purely a moral based belief, I simply leave it at agree to disagree. I probably won't change my mind after discussion unless I realize that I have a misunderstanding about the issue.

NTP fits, although this is applicable to TP in general. I don't see the moral focus I'd expect from an FP.

5. What would you do if you actually saw/experienced something that clashes with your previous beliefs, experiences, and habits?
Don't really have any experience with this. I don't know. Most of the time I just let things happen as they happen.

Pass.

6. What are some of your most important values? How did you come about determining them? How can they change?
If I value anything, it's personal freedom. People should be left to their own devices to succeed or fail and make their own decisions. I want to be able to do the same without any outside influence. This makes the most sense to me. If someone can prove to me that being told what to do is better than personal freedom, then I supposed this view could change.

TP. I explained why beforehand.

7. a) What about your personality most distinguishes you from everyone else? b) If you could change one thing about you personality, what would it be? Why?
I literally overthink everything and enjoy things that are rather strange or eclectic. If I could change something, I'd want to stop overthinking. I find myself running into many people who would call me crazy for thinking the way that I do and find that my thought process prevents me from reaching conclusions and solutions. This is a source of anxiety for me.

TP. Heavy rumination on logic that leads to indecisiveness.

8. How do you treat hunches or gut feelings? In what situations are they most often triggered?
I can't think of any specific example of hunches or gut feelings that I've had. That's not to say that I don't think I've had them, but I would probably look into my hunches more before trying to do anything with them. I suppose one example is that I have a hunch that the MBTI tests me incorrectly, so I am trying to analyze that idea further to either confirm or deny the hunch.

Even though I am typing you from an MBTI dichotomies perspective, I agree that the MBTI tests are limited in what they can do. It's mainly in the question items used, where some answers obviously sound better than others, or where a person might idealise themselves when answering things about themselves. Another possibility is that sometimes a feeler might prefer to think of themselves as logical, or a thinker might think of themselves as idealistic, which leads to opposite results.

9. a) What activities energize you most? b) What activities drain you most? Why?
Learning something that interests me energizes me the most. I can spend hours looking for something online to learn, like different pantheons or languages. I like to share these findings, too. I find that I'm most drained when I am learning nothing of interest. I like going to the beach and going to museums, however, I can only handle being outside for so long before the day becomes exhausting.

INTP fits.

10. What do you repress about your outward behavior or internal thought process when around others? Why?
I repress emotions unless I am around people I am comfortable with. I'm not very outspoken about beliefs or ideas unless it's part of the discussion. I tend to censor a lot of my thoughts for fear of sounding strange or weird. I generally don't want these things to affect my surroundings.

You seem out of your element with feeling oriented values. If I were typing you from a Jungian perspective, I'd say this was low Fe, but I won't indulge this point further.

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