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Alright, I believe the more I read about MBTI and cognitive functions the more all the information becomes confused in my brain. Generally, I am not this bad when learning new things, but I think the whole self-reflection process required in determining my type is making a mess of things. It's rather hard to look yourself in the mirror on some days, right?
So, here is a list of random things that I believe describe me. It's fairly long, but I tend to be a very thorough person.


-- I am a perfectionist (over particular things of course but not necessarily over things that actually matter).
-- I am not always very personal; i.e. I feel detached from the world and people's problems at times.
-- I know I give my whole heart in defense of someone's rights, but only if that person was directly involved in my life.
-- I hate when others put me in a box, but I am prone to placing myself in a box.
-- I am on a constant search for what is the 'right' thing and what is the general truth about the world, which is ironic because I do believe in subjectivity (you define the world for yourself).

-- I will always reject things that are based on absolute rationality. I am prone to rationalize things myself, but I believe is always at least one subjective factor that can be calculated into a final decision.
-- I love observing nature, but at times I feel like my range of vision is narrow when it comes to truly observing things.
-- Everything fits into some sort of symbolic category in my mind. Things have individual meanings that can be interwoven into the meanings of other items. These symbols and meanings build up in our heads to structure our world view.
-- I indulge in weighing out the handful of possibilities behind different scenarios.
-- I enjoy being rather spontaneous around good friends and most of the time you can never get me to shut up, but otherwise I can feel rather rigid, distant, and overly serious.

-- My 'randomness' sometimes feel calculated.
-- I have a dry, quirky humor at best. I am also known for heavy sarcasm and I taste for dark humor along with childish humor.
-- I have a distaste for most people.
-- I am constantly evaluating people (or simply judging them), but I don't hold people to my evaluations. I am open to the possibility that they may do something unpredictable.
-- I need validation from others.

-- It's hard to illicit my sympathies it when comes to life's tragedies, but I will becomes easily passionate about common decency, respect for others, and people's rights.
-- I am strongly swayed by emotions (and perhaps neurotic).
-- I have a love for written language, but I am not very articulate when speaking unless I am giving a speech I feel comfortable about.
-- I am not really the first to react to things.
-- I am highly contemplative.

-- I live in a world of possibilities.
-- I am very critical of the world around me, but I am hardest on myself.
-- Crowds put me at unease.
-- I am irritated easily, but I am getting better at this.
-- I love knowing the reasons why something happened, etc.

-- I usually learn best through visuals and hand-on experience, but I also need to know the theory behind something.
-- I like knowing the mechanisms of particular situations, objects, whatever.
-- I usually enjoy knowing the idea behind something as soon as possible.
-- I internalize just about everything, which includes beating myself up over the little things.
-- I have an external focus of control (despite my belief that I am highly autonomous).

-- I I think most people have the wrong idea.
-- I dislike offending people (unless they deserved it). And for the record, I don't usually find sarcasm offensive… usually.
-- I am a creature of habit and routine.
-- I know what I like and I like what I know.
-- I hate being late for anything.

-- I adore structure, but I could never schedule my daily life. I plan things out, but I am not very rigid about them.
-- I am unorganized mess.
-- I have recently developed a nasty habit of loosing things.


Now that you read that (hopefully at least), I will tell you that I am leaning towards either INFJ or INFP. Both types describe me fairly well, and I test as each one about half the time. But, I am pretty moderate with all four levels (not only with the J/P).

PS I know some of the traits I listed probably have nothing to do with type, but please just bare with me.
 

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Fi
- I am a perfectionist (over particular things of course but not necessarily over things that actually matter).
-- I hate when others put me in a box, but I am prone to placing myself in a box.
-- I am on a constant search for what is the 'right' thing and what is the general truth about the world, which is ironic because I do believe in subjectivity (you define the world for yourself).
-- I will always reject things that are based on absolute rationality. I am prone to rationalize things myself, but I believe is always at least one subjective factor that can be calculated into a final decision.
-- I am constantly evaluating people (or simply judging them), but I don't hold people to my evaluations. I am open to the possibility that they may do something unpredictable.
-- I need validation from others.
-- It's hard to illicit my sympathies it when comes to life's tragedies, but I will becomes easily passionate about common decency, respect for others, and people's rights.
-- I know what I like and I like what I know.

Fe
-- I am constantly evaluating people (or simply judging them), but I don't hold people to my evaluations. I am open to the possibility that they may do something unpredictable.
-- I need validation from others.
-- It's hard to illicit my sympathies it when comes to life's tragedies, but I will becomes easily passionate about common decency, respect for others, and people's rights.

Ti
-- I am not always very personal; i.e. I feel detached from the world and people's problems at times.
-- I like knowing the mechanisms of particular situations, objects, whatever.


Te
-- I am on a constant search for what is the 'right' thing and what is the general truth about the world, which is ironic because I do believe in subjectivity (you define the world for yourself).

Ni
-- I love observing nature, but at times I feel like my range of vision is narrow when it comes to truly observing things.
-- Everything fits into some sort of symbolic category in my mind. Things have individual meanings that can be interwoven into the meanings of other items. These symbols and meanings build up in our heads to structure our world view. (Not really sure if this is Ni or Ne)

Ne
-- Everything fits into some sort of symbolic category in my mind. Things have individual meanings that can be interwoven into the meanings of other items. These symbols and meanings build up in our heads to structure our world view.
-- I indulge in weighing out the handful of possibilities behind different scenarios.
-- I enjoy being rather spontaneous around good friends and most of the time you can never get me to shut up, but otherwise I can feel rather rigid, distant, and overly serious.
-- I live in a world of possibilities

Si

Se
-- I usually learn best through visuals and hand-on experience, but I also need to know the theory behind something
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In case you didn't know what I did, I broke up your statements into categories and place them in their appropriate cognitive function box. Some of your statements were not that helpful to determine your type so I omitted them; other statements had several components of function reliability so I double place them on their rightful category.

From what you said so far, it seems that your two most discussed functions were Fi and Ne which makes your type highly probable to be INFP. That is my verdict :happy:
 

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I don't like the site, but the biggest problem is I am starting to have troubles identifying what my traits are. I wish I could meet someone who knew a lot about type, have them observe me, and then tell me what they think my type is.

Also, Iconoclastic Visionary, I like the way you evaluated my list. I am now 90% convinced I am INFP. The other 10% is mainly petty doubt since I tend to be skeptical of life in general.
 
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Fi
- I am a perfectionist (over particular things of course but not necessarily over things that actually matter).
-- I hate when others put me in a box, but I am prone to placing myself in a box.
-- I am on a constant search for what is the 'right' thing and what is the general truth about the world, which is ironic because I do believe in subjectivity (you define the world for yourself).
-- I will always reject things that are based on absolute rationality. I am prone to rationalize things myself, but I believe is always at least one subjective factor that can be calculated into a final decision.
-- I am constantly evaluating people (or simply judging them), but I don't hold people to my evaluations. I am open to the possibility that they may do something unpredictable.
-- I need validation from others.
-- It's hard to illicit my sympathies it when comes to life's tragedies, but I will becomes easily passionate about common decency, respect for others, and people's rights.
-- I know what I like and I like what I know.

Fe
-- I am constantly evaluating people (or simply judging them), but I don't hold people to my evaluations. I am open to the possibility that they may do something unpredictable.
-- I need validation from others.
-- It's hard to illicit my sympathies it when comes to life's tragedies, but I will becomes easily passionate about common decency, respect for others, and people's rights.

Ti
-- I am not always very personal; i.e. I feel detached from the world and people's problems at times.
-- I like knowing the mechanisms of particular situations, objects, whatever.


Te
-- I am on a constant search for what is the 'right' thing and what is the general truth about the world, which is ironic because I do believe in subjectivity (you define the world for yourself).

Ni
-- I love observing nature, but at times I feel like my range of vision is narrow when it comes to truly observing things.
-- Everything fits into some sort of symbolic category in my mind. Things have individual meanings that can be interwoven into the meanings of other items. These symbols and meanings build up in our heads to structure our world view. (Not really sure if this is Ni or Ne)

Ne
-- Everything fits into some sort of symbolic category in my mind. Things have individual meanings that can be interwoven into the meanings of other items. These symbols and meanings build up in our heads to structure our world view.
-- I indulge in weighing out the handful of possibilities behind different scenarios.
-- I enjoy being rather spontaneous around good friends and most of the time you can never get me to shut up, but otherwise I can feel rather rigid, distant, and overly serious.
-- I live in a world of possibilities

Si

Se
-- I usually learn best through visuals and hand-on experience, but I also need to know the theory behind something
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In case you didn't know what I did, I broke up your statements into categories and place them in their appropriate cognitive function box. Some of your statements were not that helpful to determine your type so I omitted them; other statements had several components of function reliability so I double place them on their rightful category.

From what you said so far, it seems that your two most discussed functions were Fi and Ne which makes your type highly probable to be INFP. That is my verdict :happy:
this. and the fact that you seem very insecure about your orientation and need some sort of reassurance/decision making in itself makes it seem highly likely that you are an INFP.
 

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You sound a lot like me in many ways, especially those apparent J/P contradictions such as being very punctual but also a disorganized mess, or having a calculated randomness and tending towards habit and routine, but being unable to stick to a schedule. I can definitely relate to all that confusion, and I assure you it's way more characteristic of a P type than a J type. :)

I'd go for INxP in you case (definitely Introverted and Intuitive, probably Perceptive, unsure of your T/F preference). You should also take the function analysis test if you haven't already. It helped me a lot back when I was wavering between a few MB types as well.
Here it is: Keys 2 Cognition - Cognitive Processes
 

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I don't like the site, but the biggest problem is I am starting to have troubles identifying what my traits are. I wish I could meet someone who knew a lot about type, have them observe me, and then tell me what they think my type is.

Also, Iconoclastic Visionary, I like the way you evaluated my list. I am now 90% convinced I am INFP. The other 10% is mainly petty doubt since I tend to be skeptical of life in general.
I know this is very hard for introverts to do, but you should make your video and talk about anything that comes to mind, or if you would like I could assign a topic for you. I can usually tell from the way people talk and discuss things what their type is.

What do you say?
 

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You sound a lot like me in many ways, especially those apparent J/P contradictions such as being very punctual but also a disorganized mess, or having a calculated randomness and tending towards habit and routine, but being unable to stick to a schedule. I can definitely relate to all that confusion, and I assure you it's way more characteristic of a P type than a J type. :)

I'd go for INxP in you case (definitely Introverted and Intuitive, probably Perceptive, unsure of your T/F preference). You should also take the function analysis test if you haven't already. It helped me a lot back when I was wavering between a few MB types as well.
Here it is: Keys 2 Cognition - Cognitive Processes
I took the cognitive processes test, and I have problems with that site too. Though, if I remember correctly it told me I use Fi the most, then Ne, then Ni, then Ti, and the rest is blurry. But, it thought I was an INFP as well. Though like I said, other tests have told me I an INFJ. But if you think my traits are more P than J, then I will probably go with that.
I think I have a fairly balanced use of F/T, but I know I am more of a Feeler. My philosophy and ethics class taught me that.


I know this is very hard for introverts to do, but you should make your video and talk about anything that comes to mind, or if you would like I could assign a topic for you. I can usually tell from the way people talk and discuss things what their type is.

What do you say?
I never put much weight into making a video of myself before, but I will definitely think about it now. I just have to find time/courage to make it. But if you don't give me a topic, I will probably end up rambling on about the absurdest thing or simply freezing up every thirty seconds. When I feel like I am being put on the spot, I get nervous.
 

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You sound a lot like me in many ways, especially those apparent J/P contradictions such as being very punctual but also a disorganized mess, or having a calculated randomness and tending towards habit and routine, but being unable to stick to a schedule. I can definitely relate to all that confusion, and I assure you it's way more characteristic of a P type than a J type. :)
I would advice against basing your type on any J/P stereotypes, and recommend trying to fix the dominant function as a way to determine the last letter instead. I'm a J, but can identify well with this characterization as well...
 

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I would advice against basing your type on any J/P stereotypes, and recommend trying to fix the dominant function as a way to determine the last letter instead. I'm a J, but can identify well with this characterization as well...
Makes sense to me, but clearly I am looking for any help I can get at this point. I am the edge of driving myself mad right now, which is most definitely not a good thing but it's hard to help.
But still, I would have to say I am an INFP based upon what appears to be my dominant function.
 

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I never put much weight into making a video of myself before, but I will definitely think about it now. I just have to find time/courage to make it. But if you don't give me a topic, I will probably end up rambling on about the absurdest thing or simply freezing up every thirty seconds. When I feel like I am being put on the spot, I get nervous.
Whenever you feel up to it, just message me with a link to the video. You can start with these questions if you're feeling nervous to start a topic of your own. These questions are from the personality cafe challenge on this forum.

I'll be looking forward for it. :wink:
 

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I would advice against basing your type on any J/P stereotypes, and recommend trying to fix the dominant function as a way to determine the last letter instead. I'm a J, but can identify well with this characterization as well...
Determining the dominant function is definitely the best way to determine your type.

I didn't however say that J types will never identify with this characterization, but that it is more likely for a P type to do so. Mainly because it's an external behavior without a definitive pattern, which indicates a certain lack of order/predictability in the outer environment -> more typical of extroverted Perception (Ne, Se) instead of extroverted Judging (Te, Fe) as a primary/secondary function.

Introverted Perception types (INTJ, ISTJ, INFJ, ISFJ) who did not develop their secondary function well, will also tend to behave similarly. But this will usually get fixed with time in their case.
 

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I took the cognitive processes test, and I have problems with that site too. Though, if I remember correctly it told me I use Fi the most, then Ne, then Ni, then Ti, and the rest is blurry. But, it thought I was an INFP as well. Though like I said, other tests have told me I an INFJ. But if you think my traits are more P than J, then I will probably go with that.

I think I have a fairly balanced use of F/T, but I know I am more of a Feeler. My philosophy and ethics class taught me that.

Fi most then Ne. This is the very definition of the INFP.

The function analysis test is one of the best MB type indicators that I've ever taken. And I've taken loads.
 

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Fi most then Ne. This is the very definition of the INFP.

The function analysis test is one of the best MB type indicators that I've ever taken. And I've taken loads.
It is pretty damn good, but you see the thing is it scored me with having very limited Fe, which I don't quite believe. After thinking about the kinds of questions that appeared related to Fe, I determined that I scored low on using the function because those questions asked to me evaluate what kind of 'unity' I felt with other people. As a person prone to low self-esteem social anxiety, I rarely if ever feel like I have a unity with others. Low self-esteem and social anxiety are traits independent of any cognitive function. So at the very least, I don't trust how it scored my Fe.

But, the test was the main thing that made me start to doubt I was an INFJ. I have a tendency to score as an INFJ on other kinds of tests far more often than I score as an INFP.
 

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Determining the dominant function is definitely the best way to determine your type.

I didn't however say that J types will never identify with this characterization, but that it is more likely for a P type to do so. Mainly because it's an external behavior without a definitive pattern, which indicates a certain lack of order/predictability in the outer environment -> more typical of extroverted Perception (Ne, Se) instead of extroverted Judging (Te, Fe) as a primary/secondary function.

Introverted Perception types (INTJ, ISTJ, INFJ, ISFJ) who did not develop their secondary function well, will also tend to behave similarly. But this will usually get fixed with time in their case.
I agree. My caveat is, firstly, that people tend to assume that all generalizations are valid for them as individuals, which obviously isn't true, and, secondly, that J/P is not a good distinguishing mark for INFs even on a group level.
 
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