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Hey guys! Okay, the most important question:

What cookie would you like?

Lol, now you've answered that, it's MY turn to answer the questions. Heheheh.

1) What aspect of your personality made you unsure of your type?
I'm actually quite sure I'm an ISFJ, but I also score quite high on Fi, which leads me to get INFP/ISFP at times. After reading the descriptions of those two, I feel there are things that fit me from all three types. So, I feel I'm a mixed bag and I hope to gain some insight.

2) What do you yearn for in life? Why?
I really want to publish a book. For writing, I've always wanted to write. It's kind of a dream for me. I also want to be a positive influence on people. Finally, I want to do God's work.

3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.
I guess when I was sixteen-seventeen. I was brimming with hope for the future.

4) What makes you feel inferior?
When I'm not good at something or not confident.

5) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.)
When it comes to decisions that would affect me directly, I would consider my own feelings and the pros and cons.

For decisions affecting others which I have to make, I would ask them their feelings on it.

6) When working on a project what is normally your emphasis? Do you like to have control of the outcome?
To make sure I submit something with substance. At times, I tend to cut things close, but it's usually before the deadline that I have "inspiration" and be able to write something good.

When it comes to group projects, I like to do my part well and I expect others to do the same. I remember there was once my friend and I were working on a project with other people. She ended up doing someone else's part, because they weren't throwing in their weight. I supported her by helping her out, because I didn't think it was fair on her. Of course, we didn't talk to the person for weeks.

Yes, I'd like to have as much control as possible, but there are some things you can't control.

7) Describe us a time where you had a lot of fun. How is your memory of it?
Oh, many times. Usually when I'm hanging out with my friends. We usually talk, eat, hang out and things like that.

8) When you want to learn something new, what feels more natural for you? (Are you more prone to be hands on, to theorize, to memorize, etc)
When it comes to school work, I tend to memorize, because it's easiest that way. But I also like doing hands on work.

9) How organized do you to think of yourself as?
I'm not organised at all. :tongue: But then, every once in a while, I'd get my act together and clean.

10) How do you judge new ideas? You try to understand the principles behind it to see if they make sense or do you look for information that supports it?
I look for information that supports it. When it comes to theories, I keep an open mind, because I know it's not really proven yet.

11) You find harmony by making sure everyone is doing fine and belonging to a given group or by making sure that you follow what you believe and being yourself?
This is a hard question for me, because I tend to do both. I want others to be happy, but I also want myself to be happy too.

12) Are you the kind that thinks before speaking or do you speak before thinking? Do you prefer one-on-one communication or group discussions?
Think before I speak, except with friends. I prefer one on one and small group discussions.

13) Do you jump into action right away or do you like to know where are you jumping before leaping? Does action speaks more than words?
I look before I leap. Then I put one foot forward. Then I look again, and think if it's a wise decision to leap. Why should I even leap? I end up standing there for days and nights.

Yes, actions do speak louder than words.

14) It's Saturday. You're at home, and your favorite show is about to start. Your friends call you for a night out. What will you do?
Meh. It depends. If I'm feeling charitable, I would go with them. But most of the time, I'd make up some excuse and watch my damn show.

15) How do you act when you're stressed out?
I tend to be very short-tempered.

16) What makes you dislike the personalities of some people?
I hate prejudiced people, bigots, and backstabbers.

17) Is there anything you really like talking about with other people?
With my friends, I'm very opinionated. I talk on every subject under the sun, like politics, current events, psychology...stuff which my friends say are "intellectual". I don't feel intellectual, but I do like talking about them. It's really because of my friends who got me interested in such subjects. They've even got me interested in philosophy.

18) What kind of things do pay the least attention to in your life
If you were to ask my mother, it's my grooming. Heh. I'm a messy person.

19) How do your friends perceive you? What is wrong about their perception? ? What would your friends never say about your personality ?
They all think I'm a Thinker, which I'm not. I'm definitely 75% Feeler, if not more. None of my friends have said I'm not loyal. None of them also said I'm loud.

20) You got a whole day to do whatever you like. What kind of activities do you feel like doing?
Hanging out with my friends, going on PerC, reading up on stuff.


Thanks in advance. =D And have another cookie to go! (You know you want it! :kitty:)
 

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Look at the 8 cognitive function descriptions. Fi verses Fe, Ni verses Ne, Si verses Se, Ti verses Te, choose one each of those 4 you are stronger in:

Fi or Fe?______
Ni or Ne?______
Si or Se?______
Ti or Te?______

then put the 4 you choose in order from strongest to weakest.

1. Strongest_____
2. 2nd__________
3. 3rd__________
4. Weakest______

For example INFP is Fi Ne Si Te
ISFP is Fi Se Ni Te
ISFJ is Si Fe Ti Ne

( i think it's a toss between INFP and ISFP but i lean more to ISFP, i dont' think you are ISFJ)
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Fi - INTROVERTED FEELING
Valuing and considering importance, beliefs, and worth.
It is often hard to assign words to the values used to make introverted Feeling judgments since they are often associated with images, feeling tones, and gut reactions more than words. As a cognitive process, it often serves as a filter for information that matches what is valued, wanted, or worth believing in. There can be a continual weighing of the situational worth or importance of everything and a patient balancing of the core issues of peace and conflict in life’s situations. We engage in the process of introverted Feeling when a value is compromised and we think, “Sometimes, some things just have to be said.” On the other hand, most of the time this process works “in private” and is expressed through actions. It helps us know when people are being fake or insincere or if they are basically good. It is like having an internal sense of the “essence” of a person or a project and reading fine distinctions among feeling tones.

Fe - EXTRAVERTED FEELING
Connecting and considering others and the group.
The process of extraverted Feeling often involves a desire to connect with (or disconnect from) others and is often evidenced by expressions of warmth (or displeasure) and self-disclosure. The “social graces,” such as being polite, being nice, being friendly, being considerate, and being appropriate, often revolve around the process of extraverted Feeling. Keeping in touch, laughing at jokes when others laugh, and trying to get people to act kindly to each other also involve extraverted Feeling. Using this process, we respond according to expressed or even unexpressed wants and needs of others. We may ask people what they want or need or self-disclose to prompt them to talk more about themselves. This often sparks conversation and lets us know more about them so we can better adjust our behavior to them. Often with this process, we feel pulled to be responsible and take care of others’ feelings, sometimes to the point of not separating our feelings from theirs. We may recognize and adhere to shared values, feelings, and social norms to get along.

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Ni - INTROVERTED INTUITING
Foreseeing implications, transformations, and likely effects.
Introverted iNtuiting involves synthesizing the seemingly paradoxical or contradictory, which takes understanding to a new level. Using this process, we can have moments when completely new, unimagined realizations come to us. A disengagement from interactions in the room occurs, followed by a sudden “Aha!” or “That’s it!” The sense of the future and the realizations that come from introverted iNtuiting have a sureness and an imperative quality that seem to demand action and help us stay focused on fulfilling our vision or dream of how things will be in the future. Using this process, we might rely on a focal device or symbolic action to predict, enlighten, or transform. We could find ourselves laying out how the future will unfold based on unseen trends and telling signs. This process can involve working out complex concepts or systems of thinking or conceiving of symbolic or novel ways to understand things that are universal. It can lead to creating transcendent experiences or solutions.

Ne – EXTRAVERTED INTUITING
Interpreting situations and relationships and pickup meanings and interconnections to other contexts.
Extraverted iNtuiting involves noticing hidden meanings and interpreting them, often entertaining a wealth of possible interpretations from just one idea or interpreting what someone’s behavior really means. It also involves seeing things “as if,” with various possible representations of reality. Using this process, we can juggle many different ideas, thoughts, beliefs, and meanings in our mind at once with the possibility that they are all true. This is like weaving themes and threads together. We don’t know the weave until a thought thread appears or is drawn out in the interaction of thoughts, often brought in from other contexts. Thus a strategy or concept often emerges from the here-and-now interactions, not appearing as a whole beforehand. Using this process we can really appreciate brainstorming and trust what emerges, enjoying imaginative play with scenarios and combining possibilities, using a kind of cross-contextual thinking. Extraverted iNtuiting also can involve catalyzing people and extemporaneously shaping situations, spreading an atmosphere of change through emergent leadership.

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Si - INTROVERTED SENSING
Reviewing and recalling past experiences and seeking detailed data.
Introverted Sensing often involves storing data and information, then comparing and contrasting the current situation with similar ones. The immediate experience or words are instantly linked with the prior experiences, and we register a similarity or a difference—for example, noticing that some food doesn’t taste the same or is saltier than it usually is. Introverted Sensing is also operating when we see someone who reminds us of someone else. Sometimes a feeling associated with the recalled image comes into our awareness along with the information itself. Then the image can be so strong, our body responds as if reliving the experience. The process also involves reviewing the past to draw on the lessons of history, hindsight, and experience. With introverted Sensing, there is often great attention to detail and getting a clear picture of goals and objectives and what is to happen. There can be a oneness with ageless customs that help sustain civilization and culture and protect what is known and long-lasting, even while what is reliable changes.

Se - EXTROVERTED SENSING
Experiencing and acting in the immediate context.
Extraverted Sensing occurs when we become aware of what is in the physical world in rich detail. We may be drawn to act on what we experience to get an immediate result. We notice relevant facts and occurrences in a sea of data and experiences, learning all the facts we can about the immediate context or area of focus and what goes on in that context. An active seeking of more and more input to get the whole picture may occur until all sources of input have been exhausted or something else captures our attention. Extraverted Sensing is operating when we freely follow exciting physical impulses or instincts as they come up and enjoy the thrill of action in the present moment. A oneness with the physical world and a total absorption may exist as we move, touch, and sense what is around us. The process involves instantly reading cues to see how far we can go in a situation and still get the impact we want or respond to the situation with presence.

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Ti - INTROVERTED THINKING
Analyzing, categorizing, and evaluating according to principles.
Introverted Thinking often involves finding just the right word to clearly express an idea concisely, crisply, and to the point. Using introverted Thinking is like having an internal sense of the essential qualities of something, noticing the fine distinctions that make it what it is and then naming it. It also involves an internal reasoning process of deriving subcategories of classes and sub-principles of general principles. These can then be used in problem solving, analysis, and refining of a product or an idea. This process is evidenced in behaviors like taking things or ideas apart to figure out how they work. The analysis involves looking at different sides of an issue and seeing where there is inconsistency. In so doing, we search for a “leverage point” that will fix problems with the least amount of effort or damage to the system. We engage in this process when we notice logical inconsistencies between statements and frameworks, using a model to evaluate the likely accuracy of what’s observed.

Te - EXTROVERTED THINKING
Segmenting, organizing for efficiency, and systematizing.
Contingency planning, scheduling, and quantifying utilize the process of extraverted Thinking. Extraverted Thinking helps us organize our environment and ideas through charts, tables, graphs, flow charts, outlines, and so on. At its most sophisticated, this process is about organizing and monitoring people and things to work efficiently and productively. Empirical thinking is at the core of extraverted Thinking when we challenge someone’s ideas based on the logic of the facts in front of us or lay out reasonable explanations for decisions or conclusions made, often trying to establish order in someone else’s thought process. In written or verbal communication, extraverted Thinking helps us easily follow someone else’s logic, sequence, or organization. It also helps us notice when something is missing, like when someone says he or she is going to talk about four topics and talks about only three. In general, it allows us to compartmentalize many aspects of our lives so we can do what is necessary to accomplish our objectives.
 
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Thank you, @Dreamer777. It was a great help.
were you able to pinpoint your type that way? it's a new way i'm trying, let me know if it actually worked if you were able to come up with a score, and if so what did you score? :)
 

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Fe or Fi? Fi.
Te or Ti? Ti.
Se or Si? Si
Ni or Ne? Ne.

This is where it gets tough. I'm not really sure how to arrange the four letters.
 
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@MCRTS the only way I can help people to type themselves is through guided introspection, constantly asking why until we get to the real thinking below the words. As you may have gathered from my thread words aren't a great way to communicate and from your birth flag English may not even be your first langauge (although I've had no reason to doubt your ability :happy:)

I will say that you seem very decisive in your answers (compare mine with 'if's and 'but's all over the place) and they are mostly short and to the point. I'd guess that either you thought about them endlessly before writing anything or in the moment decided to do the questionairre and just did it - are either of these accurate? If neither what was your process?

I can't say that I remember anything about you from my time 'as' an ISFJ except that I enjoyed more of what you wrote and I read than I didn't enjoy. For what it's worth I am generally find Fi doms intriguing...

I'm heading out now but I'll have a read around later if I'm not back too late to get a more general picture than what you've presented for analysis (I know I twist myself - you might too :wink:)
 

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By category, each of these 3 types fall into 3 different categories for their most dominant focus of what is most important to them (doesn't mean the other things aren't important but it is the most dominant focus over all):

INFP - Meaning Seekers - Deep meaning in the soul towards life is the most dominant focus
ISFP - Excitement Seekers - Excitement to excite and stimulate the 5 senses is the most dominant focus
ISFJ - Security Seekers - Security and stability of home, job, family is the most dominant focus

SOME TITLES OF THE 16 PERSONALITY TYPES:

1) SJ – SENSING JUDGERS – OVERSEERS
ISTJ – ADMINISTRATORS, DUTY FULLFILLERS, PLANNERS, INSPECTORS
ISFJ - CAREGIVERS, CARETAKERS, NURTURERS, PROTECTORS, SUPPORTERS
ESTJ – TRADITIONALISTS, GUARDIANS, IMPLEMENTORS, SUPERVISORS
ESFJ – DUTIFUL HOSTS, CONTROLLERS, CAREGIVERS, CARETAKERS, FACILITATORS

2) SP – SENSING PERCEIVER – CREATORS
ISTP - CRAFTSPERSON, MECHANICS, ANALYZERS, OPERATORS
ISFP – ARTISTS, GENTLE ARTISTS, COMPOSERS, PRODUCERS
ESTP – WHEELER DEALERS, PERSUADERS, CHARMERS, DOERS, PROMOTERS, EXECUTORS
ESFP – ENTERTAINERS, PERFORMERS, MOTIVATORS, PRESENTERS

3) NT - INTUITIVE THINKERS – INTELLECTS
INTJ – EXPERTS, SCIENTISTS, CONCEPTUALIZORS, DIRECTORS
INTP – SCHOLARS, THINKERS, DESIGNERS, THEORIZERS
ENTJ – GENERALS, EXECUTIVES, STRATEGISTS, MOBILIZERS
ENTP – INNOVATERS, VISIONARIES, EXPLORERS, INVENTORS

4) NF - INTUITIVE FEELERS - DREAMERS/IDEALISTS
INFJ – PROTECTORS, DEFENDERS, COUNSELLORS, ACTIVISTS, FORESEERS, DEVELOPERS
INFP – IDEALISTIC PHILOSOPHERS, DREAMERS, HEALERS, IDEALISTS, HARMONIZERS, CLARIFIERS
ENFJ – GROWTH TEACHERS, GIVERS, ENVISIONERS, MENTORS
ENFP – SOCIAL PHILOSOPHERS, INSPIRERS, DISCOVERERS, ADVOCATES


You say this is what you score:
Fe or Fi? Fi.
Te or Ti? Ti.
Se or Si? Si
Ni or Ne? Ne.

INFP Fi Ne Si Te (you say Ti not Te)
ISFP Fi Se Ni Te (you say Si Ne Ti, not Se Ni Te)
ISFJ Si Fe Ti Ne (you say Fi not Fe)


What type of work would you like to do for God?

and also, 3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.
I guess when I was sixteen-seventeen. I was brimming with hope for the future.

What things changed your mind about brimming with hope for the future?
 

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Also, do you think in more practical concrete facts / 5 senses terms?

or do you think in more abstract out of the box, gut instinct, intuitive, 6th sense terms?
 

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Thanks, Dreamer777 for all your help on this!

Also, thanks in advance to asmit127!

INFP Fi Ne Si Te (you say Ti not Te)
ISFP Fi Se Ni Te (you say Si Ne Ti, not Se Ni Te)
ISFJ Si Fe Ti Ne (you say Fi not Fe)
Ah...okay.

What type of work would you like to do for God?
I'm going to sound cliche, but whatever He "calls" me to do. But I think it would most likely be writing or research for church stuff.

and also, 3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.
I guess when I was sixteen-seventeen. I was brimming with hope for the future.

What things changed your mind about brimming with hope for the future?
I was starting a new course then, in the local college. I was the classic bright-eyed and bushy tailed freshie. Now I've completed my course, but you could say I'm at a crossroads in my life.

Also, do you think in more practical concrete facts / 5 senses terms?

or do you think in more abstract out of the box, gut instinct, intuitive, 6th sense terms?
I'm really not too sure about this. I can be very abstract and metaphorical, but I also can be very literal. But I can pick up on hidden meanings and sarcasm, if that's any help.

As you may have gathered from my thread words aren't a great way to communicate and from your birth flag English may not even be your first langauge (although I've had no reason to doubt your ability :happy:)
Yes, English is my first language. Written English, anyway. Spoken, on the other hand...well, let's just say we have our own localised version of English.

I'd guess that either you thought about them endlessly before writing anything or in the moment decided to do the questionairre and just did it - are either of these accurate? If neither what was your process?
It was more of a spur of the moment thing.
 

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By looking at this way of the 3 types, INFP, ISFP, and ISFJ, which one would you say most matches you, yes you will have some from the others too, but which one mostly is you?

INFP - Meaning Seekers - Deep meaning in the soul towards life is the most dominant focus
NF - INTUITIVE FEELERS - DREAMERS/IDEALISTS
INFP – IDEALISTIC PHILOSOPHERS, DREAMERS, HEALERS, IDEALISTS, HARMONIZERS, CLARIFIERS


ISFP - Excitement Seekers - Excitement to excite and stimulate the 5 senses is the most dominant focus
SP – SENSING PERCEIVER – CREATORS
ISFP – ARTISTS, GENTLE ARTISTS, COMPOSERS, PRODUCERS


ISFJ - Security Seekers - Security and stability of home, job, family is the most dominant focus
SJ – SENSING JUDGERS – OVERSEERS
ISFJ - CAREGIVERS, CARETAKERS, NURTURERS, PROTECTORS, SUPPORTERS
 

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What type of work would you like to do for God?
I'm going to sound cliche, but whatever He "calls" me to do. But I think it would most likely be writing or research for church stuff.

What kind of research?

and also, 3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.
I guess when I was sixteen-seventeen. I was brimming with hope for the future.
What things changed your mind about brimming with hope for the future?
I was starting a new course then, in the local college. I was the classic bright-eyed and bushy tailed freshie. Now I've completed my course, but you could say I'm at a crossroads in my life.

I find that ISFJ's will stick to their goal, like what they studied they will go on to pursue the job in that field, anyone correct me if i'm wrong plz, but they tend to make their goals and follow through steadily... I'm an INFP, i seem to be always at crossroads in my life trying to decide which way to go, however i know that if we feel "called by God" that can make any type pretty much be willing to switch direction, but ISFJ would definately have a harder time to change course than INFP or ISFP. I think both INFP and ISFP are job hoppers, also because that Fi is strong, we don't like our Fi being upset and we can get offended easily as we are both very sensitive to our feelings.

ISFP's make for good journalists. Do you think wanting to write and research church stuff as what you would like to do for God's work, do you think that is like being a journalist? I like to write and research Bible stuff, but as far as research, do you mean like go out on the road and ask questions to people like a News Journalist sort of thing?
 
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I would like to research and write, but I'm not really keen on journalism. Haha, I'm not very outspoken, so that might hinder me.
 
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I would like to research and write, but I'm not really keen on journalism. Haha, I'm not very outspoken, so that might hinder me.
Si is very strong in ISFJ's, it is territary in INFP's, it's somewhat present also in ISFP's but being a shadow function to secondary Se it's not used as much as Se is.
Si dom like ISFJ's are extremely sentimental. Do you find yourself to be an exremely sentimental person?

Fi dom with secondary Ne (i know cause i'm an INFP) is always processing what they intuit externally by running it through their feelings. Very Very intuitive but from interracting with external input (rather than Ni that pulls it out of "nowhere", just out of mysterious, mystical imaginations from mysterious, mystical sometimes magical visions in their mind. INFJ and INTJ Ni doms.) How well do you relate to the INFP description?

i guess that would mean Fi dom with secondary Se (ISFP) (i dont' have much experience with ISFP's) i guess it would mean having keen perception with their 5 senses, then running it through their feelings, to make a real masterpiece work of art, whether that art is painting, writing, musician, etc. sorry best i could think of off the top of my head right now for them...
how do you relate to that?

let's see if this can shed some more light in typing you?
 

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Hey, let's see if this helps. I'll bold the parts that describe me, and we can see how many points fit me.
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ISFP description

The Artist
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1. ISFPs live in the world of sensation possibilities. They are keenly in tune with the way things look, taste, sound, feel and smell. They have a strong aesthetic appreciation for art, and are likely to be artists in some form, because they are unusually gifted at creating and composing things which will strongly affect the senses.

2. They have a strong set of values, which they strive to consistently meet in their lives.

3. They need to feel as if they're living their lives in accordance with what they feel is right, and will rebel against anything which conflicts with that goal.

4. They're likely to choose jobs and careers which allow them the freedom of working towards the realization of their value-oriented personal goals.

5. ISFPs tend to be quiet and reserved, and difficult to get to know well. They hold back their ideas and opinions except from those who they are closest to.

6. They are likely to be kind, gentle and sensitive in their dealings with others.

7. They are interested in contributing to people's sense of well-being and happiness, and will put a great deal of effort and energy into tasks which they believe in.

8. ISFPs have a strong affinity for aesthetics and beauty.

9. They're likely to be animal lovers, and to have a true appreciation for the beauties of nature.

10. They're original and independent, and need to have personal space.

11. They value people who take the time to understand the ISFP, and who support the ISFP in pursuing their goals in their own, unique way. People who don't know them well may see their unique way of life as a sign of carefree light-heartedness, but the ISFP actually takes life very seriously, constantly gathering specific information and shifting it through their value systems, in search for clarification and underlying meaning.

12. ISFPs are action-oriented individuals. They are "doers", and are usually uncomfortable with theorizing concepts and ideas, unless they see a practical application. They learn best in a "hands-on" environment, and consequently may become easily bored with the traditional teaching methods, which emphasize abstract thinking.

13. They do not like impersonal analysis, and are uncomfortable with the idea of making decisions based strictly on logic. Their strong value systems demand that decisions are evaluated against their subjective beliefs, rather than against some objective rules or laws.

14. ISFPs are extremely perceptive and aware of others. They constantly gather specific information about people, and seek to discover what it means. They are usually penetratingly accurate in their perceptions of others.
15. ISFPs are warm and sympathetic. They genuinely care about people, and are strongly service-oriented in their desire to please. They have an unusually deep well of caring for those who are close to them, and are likely to show their love through actions, rather than words.

16. ISFPs have no desire to lead or control others, just as they have no desire to be led or controlled by others. They need space and time alone to evaluate the circumstances of their life against their value system, and are likely to respect other people's needs for the same.

17. The ISFP is likely to not give themself enough credit for the things which they do extremely well.

18. Their strong value systems can lead them to be intensely perfectionist, and cause them to judge themselves with unneccesary harshness.

19. The ISFP has many special gifts for the world, especially in the areas of creating artistic sensation, and selflessly serving others.

20. Life is not likely to be extremely easy for the ISFP, because they take life so seriously, but they have the tools to make their lives and the lives of those close to them richly rewarding experiences.

Total Count: 8/20 (40% ISFP)


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Portrait of an INFP - Introverted iNtuitive Feeling Perceiving
(Introverted Feeling with Extraverted Intuition)

The Idealist
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1. INFPs are highly intuitive about people. They rely heavily on their intuitions to guide them, and use their discoveries to constantly search for value in life.

2. They are on a continuous mission to find the truth and meaning underlying things.

3. Every encounter and every piece of knowledge gained gets sifted through the INFP's value system, and is evaluated to see if it has any potential to help the INFP define or refine their own path in life. The goal at the end of the path is always the same - the INFP is driven to help people and make the world a better place.

4. Generally thoughtful and considerate, INFPs are good listeners and put people at ease. Although they may be reserved in expressing emotion, they have a very deep well of caring and are genuinely interested in understanding people. This sincerity is sensed by others, making the INFP a valued friend and confidante. An INFP can be quite warm with people he or she knows well.

5. INFPs do not like conflict, and go to great lengths to avoid it. If they must face it, they will always approach it from the perspective of their feelings.

6. In conflict situations, INFPs place little importance on who is right and who is wrong. They focus on the way that the conflict makes them feel, and indeed don't really care whether or not they're right. They don't want to feel badly. This trait sometimes makes them appear irrational and illogical in conflict situations.

7. On the other hand, INFPs make very good mediators, and are typically good at solving other people's conflicts, because they intuitively understand people's perspectives and feelings, and genuinely want to help them.

8. INFPs are flexible and laid-back, until one of their values is violated. In the face of their value system being threatened, INFPs can become aggressive defenders, fighting passionately for their cause.

9. When an INFP has adopted a project or job which they're interested in, it usually becomes a "cause" for them.

10. Although they are not detail-oriented individuals, they will cover every possible detail with determination and vigor when working for their "cause".

11. When it comes to the mundane details of life maintenance, INFPs are typically completely unaware of such things. They might go for long periods without noticing a stain on the carpet, but carefully and meticulously brush a speck of dust off of their project booklet.

12. INFPs do not like to deal with hard facts and logic. Their focus on their feelings and the Human Condition makes it difficult for them to deal with impersonal judgment. They don't understand or believe in the validity of impersonal judgment, which makes them naturally rather ineffective at using it.

13. Most INFPs will avoid impersonal analysis, although some have developed this ability and are able to be quite logical.

14. Under stress, it's not uncommon for INFPs to mis-use hard logic in the heat of anger, throwing out fact after (often inaccurate) fact in an emotional outburst.

15. INFPs have very high standards and are perfectionists.

16. Consequently, they are usually hard on themselves, and don't give themselves enough credit.

17. INFPs may have problems working on a project in a group, because their standards are likely to be higher than other members' of the group. In group situations, they may have a "control" problem.

18. The INFP needs to work on balancing their high ideals with the requirements of every day living. Without resolving this conflict, they will never be happy with themselves, and they may become confused and paralyzed about what to do with their lives.

19. INFPs are usually talented writers. (Don't know about that, heh, but I do love writing.) They may be awkard and uncomfortable with expressing themselves verbally, but have a wonderful ability to define and express what they're feeling on paper.

20. INFPs also appear frequently in social service professions, such as counselling or teaching. They are at their best in situations where they're working towards the public good, and in which they don't need to use hard logic. INFPs who function in their well-developed sides can accomplish great and wonderful things, which they will rarely give themselves credit for. Some of the great, humanistic catalysts in the world have been INFPs.

Total: 11/20 (55%)

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Portrait of an ISFJ - Introverted Sensing Feeling Judging
(Introverted Sensing with Extraverted Feeling)


The Nurturer
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1. ISFJs live in a world that is concrete and kind. They are truly warm and kind-hearted, and want to believe the best of people. They value harmony and cooperation, and are likely to be very sensitive to other people's feelings.

2. People value the ISFJ for their consideration and awareness, and their ability to bring out the best in others by their firm desire to believe the best.

3. ISFJs have a rich inner world that is not usually obvious to observers. They constantly take in information about people and situations that is personally important to them, and store it away.

4. This tremendous store of information is usually startlingly accurate, because the ISFJ has an exceptional memory about things that are important to their value systems.

5. It would not be uncommon for the ISFJ to remember a particular facial expression or conversation in precise detail years after the event occured, if the situation made an impression on the ISFJ.

6. ISFJs have a very clear idea of the way things should be, which they strive to attain. They value security and kindness, and respect traditions and laws.

7. They tend to believe that existing systems are there because they work. Therefore, they're not likely to buy into doing things in a new way, unless they're shown in a concrete way why its better than the established method.

8. ISFJs learn best by doing, rather than by reading about something in a book, or applying theory. For this reason, they are not likely to be found in fields which require a lot of conceptual analysis or theory. They value practical application. Traditional methods of higher education, which require a lot of theorizing and abstraction, are likely to be a chore for the ISFJ.

9. The ISFJ learns a task best by being shown its practical application. Once the task is learned, and its practical importance is understood, the ISFJ will faithfully and tirelessly carry through the task to completion. The ISFJ is extremely dependable.

10. The ISFJ has an extremely well-developed sense of space, function, and aesthetic appeal. For that reason, they're likely to have beautifully furnished, functional homes.

11. They make extremely good interior decorators. This special ability, combined with their sensitivity to other's feelings and desires, makes them very likely to be great gift-givers - finding the right gift which will be truly appreciated by the recipient.

12. More so than other types, ISFJs are extremely aware of their own internal feelings, as well as other people's feelings.

13. They do not usually express their own feelings, keeping things inside.

14. If they are negative feelings, they may build up inside the ISFJ until they turn into firm judgments against individuals which are difficult to unseed, once set. Many ISFJs learn to express themselves, and find outlets for their powerful emotions.

16. Just as the ISFJ is not likely to express their feelings, they are also not likely to let on that they know how others are feeling. However, they will speak up when they feel another individual really needs help, and in such cases they can truly help others become aware of their feelings.

17. The ISFJ feels a strong sense of responsibility and duty. They take their responsibilities very seriously, and can be counted on to follow through. For this reason, people naturally tend to rely on them.

18. The ISFJ has a difficult time saying "no" when asked to do something, and may become over-burdened. In such cases, the ISFJ does not usually express their difficulties to others, because they intensely dislike conflict, and because they tend to place other people's needs over their own. The ISFJ needs to learn to identify, value, and express their own needs, if they wish to avoid becoming over-worked and taken for granted.

19. ISFJs need positive feedback from others. In the absence of positive feedback, or in the face of criticism, the ISFJ gets discouraged, and may even become depressed. When down on themselves or under great stress, the ISFJ begins to imagine all of the things that might go critically wrong in their life. They have strong feelings of inadequacy, and become convinced that "everything is all wrong", or "I can't do anything right".

20. The ISFJ is warm, generous, and dependable. They have many special gifts to offer, in their sensitivity to others, and their strong ability to keep things running smoothly. They need to remember to not be overly critical of themselves, and to give themselves some of the warmth and love which they freely dispense to others.

Total: 11/20 (55%)

Verdict: It's a toss up between ISFJ and INFP.
 
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Si is very strong in ISFJ's, it is territary in INFP's, it's somewhat present also in ISFP's but being a shadow function to secondary Se it's not used as much as Se is.
Si dom like ISFJ's are extremely sentimental. Do you find yourself to be an exremely sentimental person?
Yeah, I'm a very sentimental person. Like, super nostalgic and everything. Heh. I usually remember the feelings that I had when I was going through the experiences the first time.

Fi dom with secondary Ne (i know cause i'm an INFP) is always processing what they intuit externally by running it through their feelings. Very Very intuitive but from interracting with external input (rather than Ni that pulls it out of "nowhere", just out of mysterious, mystical imaginations from mysterious, mystical sometimes magical visions in their mind. INFJ and INTJ Ni doms.) How well do you relate to the INFP description?
I've already highlighted the parts of the INFP description that fit me. It's a toss up between INFP and ISFJ. I think we can definitely rule out ISFP. But you know, as I was reading and reflecting, I was feeling that ISFJ does fit me better than INFP. Perhaps I am an ISFJ with a strong Fi. It is possible, yes?
 
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Yeah, I'm a very sentimental person. Like, super nostalgic and everything. Heh. I usually remember the feelings that I had when I was going through the experiences the first time.


I've already highlighted the parts of the INFP description that fit me. It's a toss up between INFP and ISFJ. I think we can definitely rule out ISFP. But you know, as I was reading and reflecting, I was feeling that ISFJ does fit me better than INFP. Perhaps I am an ISFJ with a strong Fi. It is possible, yes?
ISFJ's don't use intuition that much, Ne is their inferior function, and Ni is the shadow function of the inferior function thus known as 'the devilish funcion'. They are more into concrete facts, not abstract thinking.

Here is the eruption of the inferior function of Te (the INFP) when under stress and also the eruption of the inferior function of Ne (ISFJ) under stress. See which one you identify with more.

http://personalitycafe.com/infp-articles/76770-recognizing-inferior-function-ifps.html

http://personalitycafe.com/isfj-articles/78380-recognizing-inferior-function-isfj.html

Also, see which one you understand more, Ti or Ni? Ti is the territary function of ISFJ's and the devilish function of INFP's.
Ni is the shadow function of INFP's secondary function of Ne, and the devilish function of ISFJ's.

Ti - INTROVERTED THINKING
Analyzing, categorizing, and evaluating according to principles.
Introverted Thinking often involves finding just the right word to clearly express an idea concisely, crisply, and to the point. Using introverted Thinking is like having an internal sense of the essential qualities of something, noticing the fine distinctions that make it what it is and then naming it. It also involves an internal reasoning process of deriving subcategories of classes and sub-principles of general principles. These can then be used in problem solving, analysis, and refining of a product or an idea. This process is evidenced in behaviors like taking things or ideas apart to figure out how they work. The analysis involves looking at different sides of an issue and seeing where there is inconsistency. In so doing, we search for a “leverage point” that will fix problems with the least amount of effort or damage to the system. We engage in this process when we notice logical inconsistencies between statements and frameworks, using a model to evaluate the likely accuracy of what’s observed.

Ni - INTROVERTED INTUITING
Foreseeing implications, transformations, and likely effects.
Introverted iNtuiting involves synthesizing the seemingly paradoxical or contradictory, which takes understanding to a new level. Using this process, we can have moments when completely new, unimagined realizations come to us. A disengagement from interactions in the room occurs, followed by a sudden “Aha!” or “That’s it!” The sense of the future and the realizations that come from introverted iNtuiting have a sureness and an imperative quality that seem to demand action and help us stay focused on fulfilling our vision or dream of how things will be in the future. Using this process, we might rely on a focal device or symbolic action to predict, enlighten, or transform. We could find ourselves laying out how the future will unfold based on unseen trends and telling signs. This process can involve working out complex concepts or systems of thinking or conceiving of symbolic or novel ways to understand things that are universal. It can lead to creating transcendent experiences or solutions.
 
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Here is the eruption of the inferior function of Te (the INFP) when under stress and also the eruption of the inferior function of Ne (ISFJ) under stress. See which one you identify with more.

http://personalitycafe.com/infp-articles/76770-recognizing-inferior-function-ifps.html

http://personalitycafe.com/isfj-articles/78380-recognizing-inferior-function-isfj.html
I identify with inferior Ne more than inferior Te. Under stress, I tend to be more panicky and pessimistic under stress, and imagine a lot of negative circumstances.

Also, see which one you understand more, Ti or Ni? Ti is the territary function of ISFJ's and the devilish function of INFP's.
Ni is the shadow function of INFP's secondary function of Ne, and the devilish function of ISFJ's.

Ti - INTROVERTED THINKING
Analyzing, categorizing, and evaluating according to principles.
Introverted Thinking often involves finding just the right word to clearly express an idea concisely, crisply, and to the point. Using introverted Thinking is like having an internal sense of the essential qualities of something, noticing the fine distinctions that make it what it is and then naming it. It also involves an internal reasoning process of deriving subcategories of classes and sub-principles of general principles. These can then be used in problem solving, analysis, and refining of a product or an idea. This process is evidenced in behaviors like taking things or ideas apart to figure out how they work. The analysis involves looking at different sides of an issue and seeing where there is inconsistency. In so doing, we search for a “leverage point” that will fix problems with the least amount of effort or damage to the system. We engage in this process when we notice logical inconsistencies between statements and frameworks, using a model to evaluate the likely accuracy of what’s observed.

Ni - INTROVERTED INTUITING
Foreseeing implications, transformations, and likely effects.
Introverted iNtuiting involves synthesizing the seemingly paradoxical or contradictory, which takes understanding to a new level. Using this process, we can have moments when completely new, unimagined realizations come to us. A disengagement from interactions in the room occurs, followed by a sudden “Aha!” or “That’s it!” The sense of the future and the realizations that come from introverted iNtuiting have a sureness and an imperative quality that seem to demand action and help us stay focused on fulfilling our vision or dream of how things will be in the future. Using this process, we might rely on a focal device or symbolic action to predict, enlighten, or transform. We could find ourselves laying out how the future will unfold based on unseen trends and telling signs. This process can involve working out complex concepts or systems of thinking or conceiving of symbolic or novel ways to understand things that are universal. It can lead to creating transcendent experiences or solutions.
I think I use Ti more, but instead of ideas, I apply it to people. I observe people and notice the inconsistencies between them. For Ni, I do recognize it, but I use it more rarely than I do Ti.
 
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I identify with inferior Ne more than inferior Te. Under stress, I tend to be more panicky and pessimistic under stress, and imagine a lot of negative circumstances.


I think I use Ti more, but instead of ideas, I apply it to people. I observe people and notice the inconsistencies between them. For Ni, I do recognize it, but I use it more rarely than I do Ti.
Bravo!! :) You are truly an ISFJ! i have heard of another ISFJ questioning the same thing about can they be an ISFJ with strong Fi, i have heard that before and they couldnt' make up their mind if they were INFP or ISFJ, but it pointed to ISFJ. Maybe it's Si being so strong that brings that stubborn way of this is what i value and believe and i'm sticking to it, kinda thing. Plus, Fi is your shadow functino of your secondary function of Fe, so yes you use Fi but not like how much you use Fe. Fe will override Fi alot of the times, but yes, you use Fi, absolutely, just like me as an INFP uses Fe, but nowhere near how i use Fi, but yes i use Fe sometimes. Sometimes i will smile and laugh to make a group happy even if i feel like i want to leave cause i don't feel like i have anything in common, or just trying to be nice and please someone, yes i use Fe sometiems, and you use Fi sometimes.. Sweet! You nailed it this time!!! ISFJ it is!! LOL :)
 
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