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So I've been trying to figure out my type, I normally test as INFJ (or get it as option along with INFP or ISFJ) and I do feel as one, I understand other INFJs as well, But I'm really confused, I took a function tests and resulted that my functions as INFJ (Ni, Fe, Ti, Se) were higher...by just a bit, in fact all the functions were in a range of 29-34% ...All of them were developed to a good use, I didn't even wanted that, they just developed, but my questions is...
Is that even okay? What does that make me? INFJ with all functions? I'm really frustrated....
I wonder if it's because of the way I grew up and my own issues/traumas...
Can you guys help me with this, please?
 

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The theory goes that people are born with a tendency toward their main functions, then the lesser functions develop through experience and circumstance. Certain situations will force or bring out the development of other functions, so it's
possible if, for example, you had parents that use Te a lot, you might have developed high Te for someone of your type.

I wouldn't worry about it though. Most CF tests lack validity/don't always measure what they say they do. If you relate to the INFJ's cognitive functions, you probably are one.
 

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Your frustration makes a lot of sense. There are two things I have learned after thinking about all this:

- one, people are / always will be a little too eager to claim things can't be a certain way in the system

- two, while I am not the above, and encourage one to figure out what really is going on rather than assuming the rules must hold on some level, there are definitely rules of thumb you have to explain to yourself, or you won't get what you could out of the system (i.e. part of the whole power of a system's explanatory power is telling you what you cannot do, so this forces you to explain what you are really doing rather than some roundabout side-version)


First of all: functions tests are not a way I'd go except to start to see certain trends -- definitely not to determine type. The reason is they ask some questions as to common outward signs of a cognitive function being accessed, and you can do what they purport you to do in ways aside from through the function they test for.
Your general disposition as a human being outside of the functions really figures far too much into the answers you give.

A big issue is also that you score higher at a certain function on functions tests if you answer more questions with a higher indicated preference in favor of that function. What if some of the things used to test for that function don't apply to you or do apply to you for extraneous reasons? Then you would score inordinately high or low. You have to really get inside when you are processing things through what each of these functions and their introverted/extroverted attitudes tell you.

A simple example of where the qualitative nature of the questioning is not sufficient: someone who is of a theoretical penchant may score high on Ti, whereas Ti is not inherently just a theorizing function, in fact Te can be equally so. Even those who will point to Jung distinguishing these on this basis cannot deny that he speaks of the extremes, i.e. a Te type who is attuned only to the facts and cannot appreciate the subjective idea, and a Ti type who cannot in any meaningful shape attune to the facts.





It is not likely you prefer all the functions, and why that is would be that if you start to prefer dealing with your rationalizing and perceptive processes one way, and it tends to work a lot for you both on the level of resonating with your conscious knowledge of yourself and in terms of the outcomes it produces, you'll probably approach processing a similar way often.

For instance the more you prefer to Se, the less you will prefer to Ne. That is, the more your outlook to engaging oncoming objective data is to absorb its contents as seen by the senses, the more you will no longer be concerned about intuitive information you could absorb, such as perceived directions the object could move within objective reality.
 

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As a rule of thumb, if one of your N's, say Ni, scores highest, and Ni+Ne score combined higher than all other Ji+Je and Pi+Pe combinations, to produce an order N>F>T>S, probably if you see a clearer relation to Ni than Ne, you're looking to be INFJ-like in the sense of the Ni-Fe-etc model.
 

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Intuition can appear as thinking, feeling and sensation, but is still intuition.
 

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As a rule of thumb, if one of your N's, say Ni, scores highest, and Ni+Ne score combined higher than all other Ji+Je and Pi+Pe combinations, to produce an order N>F>T>S, probably if you see a clearer relation to Ni than Ne, you're looking to be INFJ-like in the sense of the Ni-Fe-etc model.
Translation: bearotter thinks you're an INFJ.
 

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Well developing shadow functions always come at a heavy price.
It demands that you abandon the stance that you accept as right and go with what you just know is wrong.
In other words, wherever you have validated yourself innwardly you will look outward for validation.
And vice versa.
Nothing is stopping you from running in that direction that just feels wrong.
Like Ni running towards Si.
When you do that you will feel various negative feelings with different levels of intensity.
The more you do it the more you will feel that everything suck.
If you abandon yourself in the process you will become a miserable wreck.
Good luck with that. :bored:
 
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I wonder if what @hornet is pointing to could happen in an extreme case of an inferior function grip - a sort of thing where "I know I can't live without it, so I WILL JUST OVERDO IT LIKE HELL" could start resembling one of the rejected, shadowy, more demonic perspectives. Like an inferior Te starting to resemble Ti, but not quite Ti in the sense of a valid type, more like an extreme possessed delusion of an Fi-dominant.
 

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I wonder if what @hornet is pointing to could happen in an extreme case of an inferior function grip - a sort of thing where "I know I can't live without it, so I WILL JUST OVERDO IT LIKE HELL" could start resembling one of the rejected, shadowy, more demonic perspectives. Like an inferior Te starting to resemble Ti, but not quite Ti in the sense of a valid type, more like an extreme possessed delusion of an Fi-dominant.
No I didn't mean to overdo the inferior at all.
More like when you surround yourself with people of the type who manifest whatever is in you shadow.
And instead of doing a mental escape, you force yourself to participate on whatever level they are on.
All in the name of developing the shadow you love so much.
Like Ni participating in an Si tea party, every saturday at 4 o'clock, with a high focus on making the sensations
as replicable as last time and reveling in that and only that.
Letting it extingush Se's wanting to jump to a new sensation and just die in a perpetual sensory repetition forever.
Extingushed Se gives Ni zero to work with and it would basically feel like it was being suffocated for air.
But instead of struggeling for air you would welcome the suffocation like a person commiting suicide.
 
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Didn't mean you were suggesting it directly or even indirectly so much as I was thinking of a case where someone might approach the rejected and/or blind spot area despite it normally just seeming like no point to go said direction...just to be clear!
 

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Didn't mean you were suggesting it directly or even indirectly so much as I was thinking of a case where someone might approach the rejected and/or blind spot area despite it normally just seeming like no point to go said direction...just to be clear!
Ok sure.
Just wanted to clarify if there was any misunderstanding. :wink:
 
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