QFE. Because I feel I may have implied this unintentionally.I imagine one of the most common causes for mistyping as INFP for an ISFP is due to faulty descriptions - both Se and ISFP descriptions imply that ISFPs are constantly immersed in the world, whereas it's actually common for them to indulge in daydreams, like INFPs do. The 'S' part may lead many, even those who write the descriptions, to believe that ISFPs are never imaginative.
Thank you! I hate how the ISFP descriptions make ISFPs sound like uncreative airheads. Honestly, I now think I'm a ISFP. However, we all know that doesn't mean that I dislike abstract things. Anyone can like those, even if some types are more likely to enjoy them.I imagine one of the most common causes for mistyping as INFP for an ISFP is due to faulty descriptions - both Se and ISFP descriptions imply that ISFPs are constantly immersed in the world, whereas it's actually common for them to indulge in daydreams, like INFPs do. The 'S' part may lead many, even those who write the descriptions, to believe that ISFPs are never imaginative.
Thank you! I hate how the ISFP descriptions make ISFPs sound like uncreative airheads. Once, I even heard that ISFPs supposedly don't seek literature, Philosophy, or science. While I don't seek out science, I definitely seek out literature and Philosophy(especially ethics Philosophy!) Honestly, I now think I'm a ISFP. However, we all know that doesn't mean that I dislike abstract things. Anyone can like those, even if some types are more likely to enjoy them. The funny thing is that whenever I take free online tests, I always get INFP. But when I am honest when taking the cognitive tests, I get ISFP.I imagine one of the most common causes for mistyping as INFP for an ISFP is due to faulty descriptions - both Se and ISFP descriptions imply that ISFPs are constantly immersed in the world, whereas it's actually common for them to indulge in daydreams, like INFPs do. The 'S' part may lead many, even those who write the descriptions, to believe that ISFPs are never imaginative.
INFP's can be very artistic too (especially with music, it seems). A lot of people seem to think that only SP's are artists, because that's how Keirsey labeled them. But I think IxxP would make a more accurate "artisan" temperament than xSxP (I consider ExSP's more performers than true artists, if that makes any sense)... and really enjoy art and artistic expression.
Indeed. I was iffy about stating that in the first place.INFP's can be very artistic too (especially with music, it seems). A lot of people seem to think that only SP's are artists, because that's how Keirsey labeled them. But I think IxxP would make a more accurate "artisan" temperament than xSxP (I consider ExSP's more performers than true artists, if that makes any sense)
But as has been said, abstract vs concrete thinking is the best way to differ between the types. Also the fact that you are on an internet forum makes me more inclined to type you as an N (ISFP's are terribly underrepresented on this site, at least)
According to this, and I stopped reading halfway through the INFP paragraph (because I'm afraid I might forget what I was gonna say), I'm most definitely an ISFP.INFP and ISFP are similar when it comes to intense feelings, being scattery, private, daydreamy, a little clumsy, creative, seeking to understand who they are, driven to build and maintain their unique identities (often seen through clothing styles, choice of activity, artsy, etc). Both of them appear calm, silent and observant? Perhaps hesitant too.
However, what is the difference between these two types? The major one I've picked up on is the fact that ISFPs will want to know something, talk about it and understand it for a specific purpose and are mostly looking forward to have it case-closed as soon as they feel they've understood that very thing. They seem to show a limited capacity for engaging in long hours of discussion of a particular thing to dig deeper and deeper and indulge in immense possibilities and breaking the glass ceilings as you keep going up the 34 storey building! This is because the ISFPs need to learn things practically too. They need role models, they need to touch and feel something. They need to try it out with their hands. They need to see if it helps them to interact with their reality better. They don't want to be tied down with responsibilities and rules so they're able to maintain enough space to discover how much something that already exists, works for them. They need to be inspired and motivated and it can only happen if it is in sync with their personal values. They're easily let down just like the INFPs feel let down, and thus you see a similar reaction from both of them, becoming sensitive and so called 'unrealistic'. I think ISFPs are way more in touch with the happenings of social life than INFP. ISFPs seem to know a lot about trends, fashion, etc. They also seek out interests that are specific to their inner-self. For instance, my ISFP friend loves watching Avatar (cartoon) due to the water girl character and not necessarily being too emotionally involved with the storyline. She's pretty selective and specific. She can relate better than I can with the daily practical things and it's happenings that I find mundane, although her insights about them will be interestng to me. ISFPs, when seeing someone in a problem or in distress, tend to say "that person needs help", and will be practical in this regard. But an INFP is more likely to say "that person needs help in ____________", and will try to point the direction for the person in need, and may also be practical if required.
INFPs on the other hand trust their intuition more than requiring concrete data/proof/experience. They seem to only be concrete when it comes to the point when they "feel" their idea to the maximum. They begin to have a rush and be on a "high" and really energized enough to channel out the life they worked out within themselves... a way to share themselves and connect with people, objects, tasks, etc. Any actions that truly lives up to their deepest convictions. There's a little bit of an inner-ENFJ in them. They tend to be avoidant of being pressured to do things out of necessity or if by force, until it makes sense to them that they must do so. They'll even be willing to take care of a sick person for long hours if it means their values approve of it, which on the onset may seem like they're being told what to do or doing what they should be doing. Being in touch with reality isn't the most important aspect for them, in fact, reality will sometimes completely shoot over their head. Because they have some difficulties interacting with reality as it is, they learn the ability to translate what's complex to most people into a simplified form that's understandable to people. This is because the INFP searches deeper and deeper into what interests them (be it them selves, a topic, a cartoon, a comparison of two or more thing, etc). So the more they comprehend things, the more they feel of great service to reality by bringing their unique perspectives, talents and abilities into the world, their own lives and people's lives. They can provide deep-rooted and a wise understanding of various thing, especially of people and their problems/enthusiasm/inspirations/goals/etc. They won't be the first ones to follow rules, but they will be one of the first ones to know what counts. Even sadness is a rich human experience for them that they're willing to embrace and consider it. It's not important for them to escape sadness and find something to distract them, although they will realize it needs to be done sometimes. They also seem to be reconciling with their past a lot. The present can't be without the past and future... and being in the present is part of their challenge. They seem to try to get the past and future to meet ends with the present and get overwhelmed easily. When they walk away from a debate/discussion or conflicting situation, it's not because something "is said and done and it's time to move on"... it's more like a retreat, to catch a breath and to hope things will be ok, and if an INFP can, they'll return to the situation to try and bring consensus or peace. Otherwise, they enjoy a long deep discussion, so long as it avoids a fight over whose right. Their interests are not "specific", they're merely the tip of the ice-berg. Their interests are more 'general' because, as long as too many rules aren't applied to it, they feel the freedom to search through their interests as much as they would like. What's more specific to them is what ever's in sync with their deep values, spirituality and what works for the good of people and situations. They know their values very well and they know what they believe in, but they're not necessarily sure of what is it that they specifically want to do as there are too many things they'd like to do. So given all of this, INFPs tend to be more spacey, less willing than the ISFP to have a hand-on approach to learning, less in tune with social norms than the ISFP, needing more personal space for creativity than the ISFP who, just like the ISTP, need socializing in the real world in some way or form (probably due to the S in their personality). INFPs probably more willing to discuss things to great length and depth whereas the ISFP will keep it less complicated and more realistic.
However, both value a lot of the same things, and we see eye to eye in similar activities, and understand each other's intense feelings and expressive thoughts. It's very fascinating. But ISFPs are like "errm... ok" to the INFP when the INFP gets all spacey and abstract... whereas the INFP would be like "but..but...but!" when the ISFP keeps an explanation of something concrete and basic when, according to the INFP, it needs elaboration and consideration of some out-of-the-box quests!
Hey, I do the same thing too. Often, I just never seem to notice the good details and focus on the negative details instead. Also, I am not sure if abstract vs. concrete is always a good way to determine whether you are a N or S. Then again, I'm only a teenager, so I might still be developing my N/S preferences.Which one of these types are more likely to deprecate? Self-deprecate, or deprecate in general, to avoid disappointment?
I tend to look at the whole, but focus on certain details, in the past, to determine what is happening here and now, in the present. I don't know if that makes any sense. It sometimes makes me paranoid. I don't know if I should call it paranoid because I'm quite aware of it, but I do feel very judgemental in my head because I assume, and quite often assume the worst. And I do it, I don't know, because something tells me I'm going to get disappointed. Perhaps I take from personal experiences. Does that makes sense? Blah. And whenever I bring these thoughts forward; Mention it to or simply question my own thoughts with others, I'm told I'm a pessimist. "Why do you always have to assume the worst?" I've been told. And so I keep my own thoughts to myself mostly, because I don't want to bother everyone with it. And sometimes I think my thoughts are just plain wack, that's also why I don't mention it to anyone. But isn't this only natural, in order to avoid
disappointment? I don't want to fly high across the sky just to have my wings burnt, fall and die.