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I've always thought it's a bit weird, but today I just had a conversation about it with a friend who doesn't have the same problem. Well, she's probably an I__J of some sort.

I live in Japan now, and Japanese is my second language, which does contribute to me not hearing stuff clearly. But I've actually always had the same problem when I lived in US & the Philippines and used English, which is my first language. When I listen to people, I always try to be attentive. But I frequently not hear words right, and have to ask the other party to repeat what he/she just said. Often I'd hear the sound, but either I'm missing some parts of the sound or I can't put the sound together into words in my brain. In fact, when I used English all the time, I think the sentence I used the most in every day conversation was "What?" or "Huh?" (Yeah, they're not even sentences). Especially when I talk on the phone, I was often lost and don't understand what the Citibank lady just asked me, and I would need her to repeat the question even though I perfectly understand English.

I'd like to know if this has something to do with INFP cognitive function or something else entirely.


(I mean, I am quite attentive in listening to abstract forms of sound, like music. But even in that, I'm not super well-trained in recalling the context of the sounds correctly.

Also, when I read words aloud from a book or an article, I often don't catch the content of the text because I'm focusing so much on looking at the right letters and making the right sounds. Especially with alphabet and kana, where the individual letters represent sounds rather than concepts.)
 

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I would guess not, it's something else but possibly related. I can slightly relate in that I speak four languages fluently plus a bunch of others less than fluently, and auditive understanding is my weakest area in every language. I am best at reading and writing and speak well, but have occasional blips when it comes to listening. I like to watch movies with subtitles, for example - regardless of language. I don't like to learn languages by talking to people (other than once I already have a decent grasp), I like to read, write and listen to tapes etc.

I've always thought this is because of my upbringing - we didn't talk much in my family, we'd read books instead. I've always spent much more time reading and writing than talking.
 

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I would guess not, it's something else but possibly related. I can slightly relate in that I speak four languages fluently plus a bunch of others less than fluently, and auditive understanding is my weakest area in every language. I am best at reading and writing and speak well, but have occasional blips when it comes to listening. I like to watch movies with subtitles, for example - regardless of language. I don't like to learn languages by talking to people (other than once I already have a decent grasp), I like to read, write and listen to tapes etc.

I've always thought this is because of my upbringing - we didn't talk much in my family, we'd read books instead. I've always spent much more time reading and writing than talking.
Hmm... it's interesting that you brought up reading. Because people always tell me I'm good at writing, but I'm actually pretty below average, or surprisingly perform below expectations of people who know me, at reading comprehension. I don't know if it's because I'm really slow at it, or if it's because of the style of text that are used for reading comprehension tests (in any language). I'm fine with reading stuff posted in this message board, obviously. But I'm also bad at reading novels. I misinterpret a lot of things I read. A common mistake is interpreting something as the exact opposite of what it intends to say.

On a recent standardized Japanese language tests, I got above average on listening comprehension. And below average on reading comprehension, but that's partly because so many other test takers are Chinese.
 

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Well that seems to be a problem of mine. Thankfully mine is not as debilitating as that author's. When in crowds I don't even try to listen to conversations anymore. I do water aerobics and with the noise of the pool and the humming of the climate control system I can't hear much of anything that is said. The other people are laughing and talking all through the class. The instructor knows to give me non-verbal cues because I simply can't hear what she's saying. There are some people's voices that are at a certain pitch and I just cannot make out their enunciation. Lip reading helps.

Stress plays a factor too. More stress = less communication received.
 

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I'd like to know if this has something to do with INFP cognitive function or something else entirely.


(I mean, I am quite attentive in listening to abstract forms of sound, like music. But even in that, I'm not super well-trained in recalling the context of the sounds correctly.

Also, when I read words aloud from a book or an article, I often don't catch the content of the text because I'm focusing so much on looking at the right letters and making the right sounds. Especially with alphabet and kana, where the individual letters represent sounds rather than concepts.)
I believe that individuals (such as INFPs) are more visual people. We are more effective when we're able to process words through images and compare things metaphorically and through similes, than up close and on-the-spot-type of communication. We are known for deep thinking, so that could just be a strong trait of yours, as well. Although, this could all relate to perfectionism, anxiety, and social phobia, but I'm not doctor...just throwing my two cents in..
 

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I think I know what you mean. For example, sometimes if I can't make out what someone is saying I will continuously ask "what did you say?" trying harder to understand each time, and each time still not getting it. But then again it could just be one of those awkward social glitches.
 
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I have a huge issue with this as well. My hearing is well below average, and I wear a hearing aid now, but despite now being able to hear clearer, my listening comprehension still remains very poor. This is especially true when I am feeling anxious. I find that even when listening to songs i often can't decipher any lyrics. When I am in a calmer state, my listening comprehension defnitely goes up, but I still find it quite inconsistent. I think part of it has to do with spacing out when people are talking to me. My mind goes at a million miles an hour sometimes, unless im paralyzed by fear.
 

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I speak 3 languages, american (of course), Chinese , and I'm studying French. I do tend to do what you say, a lot. I always talk to my INFJ friend on the phone and get lost. I think it's because I am so zoned out. Maybe you should try something to help your concentration. I tried meditation and my comprehension skills are really improving.
 

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Japanese has only 70-something syllables in the whole language, everything rhymes, and everything is a pun. Plus, with less emphasis on any particular syllable, words tend to run together. I can speak it pretty well, but listening? Total confusion. I hear what sounds like a word I know, but it's only a part of a longer word with a completely unrelated meaning. Then I hear some other words that have more than one meaning before the speaker finally gets to the verb at the end of the sentence. And I focus more on the conjugation of the verb than the actual meaning and what am I left with? I misunderstand almost everything and lose track of all context. Is this me or is it part of learning Japanese? I've been speaking it for 25 years, so I suppose that suggests it's me.
 
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