Thank you @mistakenforstranger for those in the grip links! I'll have to check those out more when I have free time. Sorry I'm lagging a bit, I've been busy!
I don't see this as something you can assign as either function because both have the capacity to accept and embody, or turn away from their culture's values as part of their identity...I mean isn't that part of the point of a value based feeling function period?
As an aside, I tend to go with ENFP for Anna too, just because she has that Ne-energy of getting so wrapped up in her thoughts, but I think I'm due for rewatching Frozen to be more specific about that. I think it'd be interesting to inspect the extent of Anna's trauma, at least in regards to her parents deaths and being ignored by her only family member. That whole, "We finish each other's —" "Sandwiches!" That's what I was gonna say!" Seems like Ne-Fe banter. I think she also has ADHD haha. Oh and it's the same deal with the actresses, Kristen Bell is an ENFP. Funny how that works!
Hold up...how is that Fe? I understand this idea when pertaining to her people, but not when it's pertaining to her culture...I don't see how this is specifically Fe or Fi, one over the other. Speaking for myself, my Polynesian side is EXTREMELY important to me (like !!! important) so does that mean my acceptance of my culture is Fe? It's a huge part of my personal identity. It's part of why I am so invested in trying to type these characters! lolI rewatched the beginning of the movie, and you make very good points here, as well. I can see the case for ENFJ now too.I know with my ExFP friend, she values her culture/heritage and sees it as part of her identity (which is how I thought I saw it mainfesting in Moana), but there's also a few things that she doesn't personally agree with and will not partake in whatsoever (one thinks of Ariel), whereas Moana almost became a "model" of her culture, adapting herself to all their customs. As I was saying with Elsa, and how she doesn't really think of her country/kingdom, and prefers her own individual isolation, Moana never loses her connection with her people, or thinking of their needs in the long-run (Fe-Ni). Moana is conflicting because on the one hand she says in the song, "I wish I could be the perfect daughter," which sounds Fe-ish (except Fe would maybe seek to be perfect in their "role" in the community rather than to only her father), but also says about her father that, "He doesn't get me," which feels Fi too, because of how he holds her back from the water and her true desires.![]()
She's very Fe at the beginning in her culture, but more Fi at the end with Te Fiti.
I don't see this as something you can assign as either function because both have the capacity to accept and embody, or turn away from their culture's values as part of their identity...I mean isn't that part of the point of a value based feeling function period?
Yes, I agree it's Ni. My point was that the dream demonstrates she cares for the physical island too. I mean, if her ultimate goal was just to save her people, they have the boats which she was aware of, they could escape. I think part of her motive was saving her island too which seems more Se-like.And @fresh, I think that dream itself can be Ni. She still sees the implications that not achieving the goal has for her people, using the dream as a "vision" to press onward (Se-Ni), rather than how it's about her, per se
Oh Hei Hei? Lolz uhhhhh could you type something that dimwitted? Pua on the other hand is pretty cuddly adorable. I was actually sad that Pua didn't go in the trip, I don't really understand why he didn't.Haha what would be that crazy rooster's type? (I'm not being serious.)
As an aside, I tend to go with ENFP for Anna too, just because she has that Ne-energy of getting so wrapped up in her thoughts, but I think I'm due for rewatching Frozen to be more specific about that. I think it'd be interesting to inspect the extent of Anna's trauma, at least in regards to her parents deaths and being ignored by her only family member. That whole, "We finish each other's —" "Sandwiches!" That's what I was gonna say!" Seems like Ne-Fe banter. I think she also has ADHD haha. Oh and it's the same deal with the actresses, Kristen Bell is an ENFP. Funny how that works!