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Was not fully convinced about this. Im not even sure what that would mean.

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I care about people who I consider friendly, and until a time proven otherwise, I will continue to care, no matter the type. However, as my circle of friends is rather limited, I did notice most interactions are the most fruitful around fellow INTJ's whether on this forum or otherwise.
 

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All the intjs I know care extremely deeply for those whom they love no matter the type. They don ´t give a damn about tose they don´t no matter the type.
This is a key point here; INTJs care about people who are close to us. Caring about people in general or distant groups is not intuitive to us.
 

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My dad is INTJ and even though I love him we don't have the greatest relationship. My boyfriend, whom I think is probably gonna be my life long partner, is also INTJ. I think that answers it adequately! Anyhow regardless of type, as has been said before, as soon as I really care about someone, I love them very deeply. We may not show it as much, but we can be just as loving as any other type.

Downton Abbey quote: "There is more than one kind of mother." This applies to all love.
 

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This is a key point here; INTJs care about people who are close to us. Caring about people in general or distant groups is not intuitive to us.
I personally do care about the planet though and I personally also care about how humanity progresses... Not humanity itself persé, but what becomes of it. As this will influence me, my loved ones and any kids I may or may not have. But I agree with not caring about people in general/distant groups.
 

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Yes, the whole point of my recent attempt to receive the sacrament of Confirmation as a RC was to try to me, through practice, get my basal ganglia to think about humanity in the abstract more favorable, in addition to providing my intellectual commitment to RC neothomism and phenomenology of emotions with a practical insight.

So, no, I haven't practiced caring in the past about jack shit. But, as a former boy/cub scout, and also not an asshole, I always help people stuck on the side of the ride push a car, change a tire, walk home, shovel (or, protip, carry a push broom to sweep snow) snow off someone's car. Whatever.

But, yes I believe in caring when it's combined with doing. When it's words, I don't give a shit. See, and do.

And always try to notice more and do more.

That said, I don't know how many of you are city people, but honestly, that was most of my adult life in real cities, so, yeah, there's some crust that you just need, and I don't know if it's right or wrong, but the crust is there for me and I don't have the energy to try to undo my method there.
 

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No, I don't care for people I don't know. There were INTJs I cared for, though, but they weren't strangers; they were friends.
 
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The expansion of that caring is directly related to the levels of counsciousness of the subject
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Part 1. Naturally intjs differ, generations, health levels, maturity, enneas and insticts, but also age, and life expertise. And this is just mbti based POV meaning not entering the DNA based real personality structures and the outcomes of those. Now the sad part of intjness is some are in pretty deep holes. Thats always involuntary and caused by the social enviroment hits. I think those should have a chance to be lifted, even with some force used, as many times they no longer believe in goodness, unfortunately.

Kinda like this, dont worry, be happy, cause we are here to make a permanent change to smt truly likable, together. Free of charge.
And thats how I define success, lifting up one, preferable at minimum ones level ideally even higher

Part 2. "As this will influence me, my loved ones and any kids I may or may not have". I share this exact opinion. The impact is what matters, direct or indirect.
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Love is caring. Happiness is in the Truth. Life is a filter to see where everyone is gonna go after it. Peace is in the Creator.
 

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Love is caring. Happiness is in the Truth. Life is a filter to see where everyone is gonna go after it. Peace is in the Creator.
Heh.

 

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You had quite a few stands there, but this one clearly overcomes them all. "But, yes I believe in caring when it's combined with doing. When it's words, I don't give a shit. See, and do".

Words are helpful too when coming from 1k ton of expertise, no doubt. But doing when there the chance is .. well Ill put as it really is. The 1st level of mistakes comes from NOT taking the opportunity to do good. So sorry mate, you do not fit into the category of a shallow intj. ;)

Really great to have you around! If you ever cared for an underground boxing match with a wheelchair guy like myself, aware me, willya
 

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Yeah, thank @anomalia I'll put you in my calendar.

I agree, it is nice to have me around, and I hope you stick around as well.

You're a stimulating influence.
 

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Thats some nostalgy right there. I used to like bikes when I was still standing on my feet, so do the entps so Id know that piece of music pretty well too. Used to love long rides trought the EU with the guys. Especially the roads of Norway and Madeira. Imagine the intensity to do that with 35 other men. You can imagine, wasnt too hard back those days to get Tier 1 female attention.. And we didnt really dogde it, either. Too much entps influence, or the other way around to be more exact

When I got married, though. All of that dropped instantly. Its literally insane how much a woman can care if you just let her in limitless closeness.. ..it really does overcompensate all the other women in the world. All are intense, but one is sacred. I guess it comes down to individualistic caring too. If one person is special then extra caring will be allocated. But what about a group of ppl just like you.. I go full house long on that position with .. say, 8billion thats gonna be highly impressive

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Hehheehe. It never stops to sincery lift my consciousness up seeing an attitude of an alpha male. Being unapologic about your value is highly valued/looked up to only by almost ALL. And then theres a particular portion that envy that leadership .. who will, inevitably, get a followup to surely hit 6ft down under, right to Australias aboriginals, if they insist testing it. For me its amuzing. The birds get aroused 101% of the time. Of course theyll deny it, but 2hrs later you will find them competing with other females for the attention and then comes the touching part, and then theyll say the 3 words .. its written it their code, I suppose.

Gonna be direct here. Im not gonna stick around mate, cause Im severely damaged physically. Like really bad. But. Im not going to wank around and be unsupportive towards the rest of you. So, I co-made this small but inquisitive group for REAL intjs to ... well I cant really say, as I do not know the fullest potential and cant imagine it either, but at least theyre not gonna have to fly commercial anylonger. If thats of any value.

So if you wanna testdrive that group, (and get free flights / sight seeings when the group is picking up its members) Id be honored for you take that group to see an undergroung fight with finalization, just so it can see and have 1st hand experience of the forced stopping of human life so it to become able to realise the harming potential one man has over another when the savage nature is released and how the pride for the kill transforms into the fear of death while the other will be merciless. ITs really smt else compared to hollywood fiction

Im nothing more that the net production of the most negative upbringing with the help of the Creator to write it all down for you all to be able to hopefully extract value. And, the end game of all is really, truly, only caring. Precisely as you formulated it: With actions.
 

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Ok. Well, good luck.

You seem pretty interested in what other people are doing. I am too, as a student of human moves. I think you're better at it than I am. Maybe you can share some of your results in human language.

I'd be interested.

There's, for example, a rather robust literature in AI research about the capacities of analogy.

I'm interested in that, and perhaps you would be as well.

ETA well, I don't understand your meaning about "alpha male." I think of myself of just regular, and TBH, I only have a few simple categories in which I put other people: basically, "garbage" and "like." I'm a simple man, but believe it or don't, I'm not much for thinking about the crap floating around in my head, so long as it's adaptive.
 

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Well. Its mainly best of wishes to those that will develop that group, since my exit date was already at the end of this summer. Its 5 months overtime for me already.. so. I guess the dot is coming sooner rather than later.

Heh. The AI is certainly more tactfull than me in language setting. I do 6 languages and none of them well.

The adaptor forms within time. Its the plural clicks of the synergy. The main point is the seed. And the caring comes from offering that seed, as long as were having it.

Alpha male is what you are. Just another regular dude, from your point of view. Check out sociosexual hierarchy. Its the natural animal kingdom, if you wish

If you change your mind about taking the intjs to that boxing thing let us know
 

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I do 6 languages and none of them well.]
What does that mean?

I know some languages too, but my maternal language is English and I do it like for shit.

I don't know what it is to do a language good,.

At this point in my life, I, for me, want to make my languages do.

NB: not speak, not express, but perform for me.

I think you've gone down the rabbit hole, and I think that's a journey everyone should make.

I'm still making it.

<insert image from [Repo Man] -- "So, Otto, you do a lot of acid, back in the hippie days?">

Yep.
 

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Depends on the person. I think that being Ni-doms can (on averag) help us being closer to fellow INTJs more than let's say to ISFJs, therefore increasing the likelyhood of us caring about our fellow INTJs.
 
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