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This is a corresponding thread to a thread I posted in the INFJ forum, "Do you have 'INTJ moments'?"


Essentially, I sometimes have moments where I feel like a strong Ni/Te/Fi user, though it's like in shorter bursts and they naturally pass. But it's like I sort of switch my Je focus and identify with INTJ traits. So I am curious if you ever experience something similar, though with INFJ moments instead.
 

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I don't know. The INFJs I know are Ni doms just like me and have a very sinister sense of humour.

I don't talk half as much as them. They could talk underwater with a mouthful of marbles.

I don't understand their ideas on what their relationships are about though. When they say things like I want him to want to marry me. I say errrr you want him to marry you or you want him to hassle you into marriage as much as you are hassling them? Hehe.

We always have a good laugh.....but no, apart from shared Ni, weeeeeeeee, there isn't much squishy about me like they are, bless them.
 

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My INFJ friend often asks me for my perspective on whatever social/relationship issue he has at the time. It seems to follow the structural query of "Person says/does x. What does that mean?" as he's trying to formulate a way to respond without somehow implicating himself(social harmony). I believe it to be an aspect of Fe, however I only find myself communicating in this way if the setting is more formal or I'm interacting with strangers whom I can't treat as individuals without knowing them well enough.

On the other hand I can't see instances of INFJs using Fi but maybe that's because those are the most personal of thoughts/ideas of their inner world. As a shadow function it is probably rarely expressed due to its negative, under-developed nature. I think we're both aware of our oppositional views but it's beneficial in a way since drawing attention to them helps us learn to compensate by strengthening our dominant cognitive preferences.

It's hard to have "INFJ moments" with Te always present but I do my best to understand his way of thinking as well(which many times can run parallel to my own).
 

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No, but I do have ESFP moments. :blushed:
Hahahahaha ohmygawwwd me too!


Not so many INFJ moments though. I love them and wish I could be like them in some situations, but every time I'd consider myself using a feeling function it'd be Fi, not Fe. There are times, however, that I say F-ish things my INFJ friends say, like "I knew I wouldn't like that person," or when they make a value judgment on someone's motives. It's just for Fi reasons instead.
 

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Sometimes if I'm discussing serious issues like politics, I might come off like a super-idealistic INFJ. I'll also come off a little like one if I'm flirting or around a special lady friend in general. I might come off like a very stubborn INFJ if I'm depressed or in a bad mood.
 

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I certainly do. Although only in specific regard to certain circumstances. For instance, I have this strange unshakable attraction to romance. I don't act on it, and I'm not any more inclined to chase in interest for it, but it does have a profound effect on my behavior during a relationship. It's complicated. I suppose always expecting more of myself is a part of that as well, although I have zero expectation for anyone else.

In response to judging people. I do that using intellect. I have a great deal of faith in my ability to perceive. Who needs to feel when I know? Just my perspective. It is generally for fun, because if I am by chance incorrect, there is no reason to dwell on it.
 

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I often put on the Fe show in work/school environments so that people find me less intimidating. Plus, I'm dating an INFJ so I've picked up on all of his diplomatic habits.

Also, 5w4 with a 9 fix.
 

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Yes, and I also have moments where I turn into an elephant, and some where I know how to fly...

No I do not have "INFJ moments," I only have INTJ moments wherein I may become overly reflective and emotional. I don't have to change my type to be a human. And cognitive functions are barely even worthy of discussion.
 

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Yes, and I also have moments where I turn into an elephant, and some where I know how to fly...

No I do not have "INFJ moments," I only have INTJ moments wherein I may become overly reflective and emotional. I don't have to change my type to be a human. And cognitive functions are barely even worthy of discussion.
I agree. We really don't need this extra baggage like "cognitive functions" or "Carl Dung" or whoever.

were you being serious
 

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I agree. We really don't need this extra baggage like "cognitive functions" or "Carl Dung" or whoever.

were you being serious
Yes. Let me restate exactly what I meant.

Carl Jung's book Psychological Types, wherein "cognitive functions" are introduced is a matter of hypothetical guesswork and speculation, and therefore, not to be revered by anyone with a discerning eye lest that person has substantial evidence of their existence, or if there is substantial evidence, which I've yet to see.

To say that an INTJ has an INFJ moment when they have acted in any relevantly defined way outside of their stereotypes is much like anthropomorphism, in that INFJ qualities are being assigned to something which is not and cannot ever be an INFJ, which is therefore either imprudent and or incorrect.

Why not just ask us if we have emotions? That always seems to conjure up nice responses...
 

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Yes. Let me restate exactly what I meant.

Carl Jung's book Psychological Types, wherein "cognitive functions" are introduced is a matter of hypothetical guesswork and speculation, and therefore, not to be revered by anyone with a discerning eye lest that person has substantial evidence of their existence, or if there is substantial evidence, which I've yet to see.

To say that an INTJ has an INFJ moment when they have acted in any relevantly defined way outside of their stereotypes is much like anthropomorphism, in that INFJ qualities are being assigned to something which is not and cannot ever be an INFJ, which is therefore either imprudent and or incorrect.

Why not just ask us if we have emotions? That always seems to conjure up nice responses...
Well, sure. When you take an INFJ who appears to have a "Te quality", it's likely that it's technically just stereotypical Te behavior for Fe reasons (or any other similar situation). But I guess the topic could also be asking about behavioral patterns or whatnot, and so it would seem likely that two types with the same dominant would be most likely to be mistaken for one another. I mean, there's differing ideas out there about type and its fluidity (I believe Jung himself thought type was not static, many others do not) so it would seem prudent to allow for multiple interpretations.

And of course cognitive functions don't really exist; if my personality doesn't have Se (or represses it), it doesn't mean I can't look at a lamp and interpret it as a lamp. But I would think it'd go without saying that we're going to treat it as the basic model to which we contrast most of the information we take in on this forum (i.e. a "situational truth" of sorts).
 
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