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What are they like? They seem rather fascinating to me. I met a few that I suspected were TP types but because of social norms you always wonder if they are feelers.
 

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Would they be any different from TP men? I know an ESTP girl. She is the only person i know, who is actually capable if multitasking.
 

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Interestingly, my ESTP sister tested as ESFP. I think there's pressure for women to give the more 'feeling-like' answers and for men to give the more 'thinking-like' answers to tests. It doesn't change their type though, just their behaviour.
 

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Yeah, I have an ENTP friend and an ESTP cousin (mistook her for an ESFP before I really read about how developing tet Fe acts). Both incredibly high energy people, both incredibly creative. The ESTP is interesting because while she is very hands on, blunt, and fine with getting her hands dirty, she also cares very much about appearance and relationships. Basically the same as male EXTPs, but with socially imposed feminine values
 

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A close friend of mine is an ENTP.. We know each other for six years now so if you have any questions about what she's like feel free to ask :)

In general, I think she fits the ENTP stereotype quite well. She's rather loud, laughs often and talk a lot about everything... If I say everything, I mean EVERYTHING. She can talk about cookie crumbs in one second and about quantum physics in the next. Also, she is very good at debating and if she starts an argument, she almost always wins. In all the time I've known her, I have won about three out of many discussions I had with her. Something in the way she argues makes you forget all your the points you had, leaving you no choice but to agree with her

She's very intelligent - she rarely gets other grades than A and B..... But without studying. She never studies and is too lazy to do anything that bores her (and many things bore her) so she just doesn't study and doesn't care for school but somehow always gets away with that.
Many people tell her that she's cold-hearted or that they can't imagine she actually has feelings... Which is a bit frustrating to her.. But I can see why people think that . She really doesn't show many emotions and has logical reasons for everything.
Irrationality and stupidity make her REALLY upset.
Also she's very confident and autonomic.

So in conclusion... I'd descirbe her as intelligent, rational, imaginative, creative, a bit cold, talkative, energetic, active, maybe a bit intolerant sometimes (especially torwards other people's opinions), persuasive, confident and careless
 

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My current supervisor is ESTP 7
For me it's a relief because we speak the same language in terms of communication. She is 10 years my junior so I see some immaturity in her impulsiveness (haha talk about calling the kettle black). I really like working under her though because she judges based on work based merit (not dumb social politics or who wins for having the fakest nuances). She definitely is still in her wild days in her personal life. She is extremely reasonable. Once I established to her I was a non threat to her she has gone above and beyond nominating me for a better position within the company (a lot of people are too concerned with keeping others down) she very much acknowledges her support staff and understands importance in giving others value. (This management style reminds me of myself a lot). She usually has a very light hearted disposition which can be under estimated at a glance. I know outside of work she enjoys hunting and fishing. Her demeanor is put together but very casual at the same time. Definitely comes off down to earth and light hearted. I have seen her pissed though and know she is not just blindly happy go lucky.

I knew an ESTP 4 in high school who I would call a friendemy
We were civil and had an understanding not to step on each other's toes and you don't start stuff with me I won't start stuff with you. So even her and I not really liking each other much still had a silent understanding where we communicated on the same level and knew not to fuck with each other's turf. She happened to be more of the leader type though while I was a free floater so initially she was threatened by me when I would speak to her friends etc once she recognized I had no intention of trying to recruit her lemmings but just liked networking she and I then networked mutually. I always found her extremely obnoxious (haha even for my taste). She always was this oppressive ruler to her lemmings and would talk so fucking loud over everyone around just to exert her 'domination'. I more so rolled my eyes at that. I had moved enough though already from different schools by then she was sorta of irrelevant and her social goals were not the same as mine. I cared more about general networking while she really focused her efforts on building a cult of lemmings so I did not conflict with her agenda. She annoyed the fuck outta me when she would speak over everyone to enforce her dominance to her lemmings but I could see the other layers to her personality despite that and understood her even if I didn't agree with her approach. That 4 in her ESTP like the combo of the two I think was what made her come off so obnoxiously.

My daughter is an ESTP 3
This looks close to an ESFP just stereotyping off the surface because of that 3 emphasis she cares more about exerting her femininity. She is Ti/Fe though. Considering myself and the others I mentioned my daughter is the most refined in terms of smooth and polished delivery etc. A lot of emphasis on commercialism and image (well the 4 had a huge emphasis on image as well but it was always to contrast and fight the 'man' and be counter culture). Where as myself and my boss the 7 do not inherently seek to go with or against the majority either direction. My daughter because of the 3 has more common sense about utilizing her strengths in the best ways to create and maximize the most opportunities. She gets wrapped up in drama and gossip too much. She is the cute girl friends with the guys who girls hate. She cares way more about boys than I know I did at that age or further more any of the other ESTP females I described did. Because of her 3 though my daughter has taught me the value in sometimes pointing out the payoff of giving a shit to invest some stamina in cultivating social standing. And how that can head off certain things. Anyways she is really feminine outwardly compared to the other examples. She postures a lot socially (this annoys the fuck out of me) haha remember I am ESTP too so I can see her staging so many weird demeanors to appear feminine etc.

I don't know any ENTP women I can think of who stick out.
 

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Do you know any TP women?
Theme Park females are dangerous. They figure out what people's desires are, then construct a fantastic addictive ride for them. You will not be allowed close to one unless you're over the age of 14 or accompanied by a parent. Please don't bother breaking the rules. There are security cameras.

I met a few that I suspected were TP types but because of social norms you always wonder if they are feelers.
IRL, I don't show Ti openly unless it's in a work situation. Mostly, it's a private thing - I know what I think, believe, the algorithms I create for my life, my analysis, etc. I use those things to decide how to interact with my world. I rarely need those things validated (note: rarely, not never). I display it much more often when I'm helping someone solve a problem.

Why some Ti types appear more feeler-ish: In IRL interactions, I tune into their emotional content more. Social dynamics interest me. Those are the muscles I'm always trying to build. I often let their inaccuracies or foolish thoughts slide because:

1) There's no point in harping over every single detail. There's rarely any value in it for me. If anything, I find it more valuable to study their flawed thinking patterns to understand them better (or more accurately, to understand the danger they bring to the playing field as a result of their thinking flaws).

2) I let them feel heard or have their ego stroked. Eg: If some nervous guy hits on me and tries to brag about his whatever, the last thing he needs is a kick in the ass about why his thinking is flawed. Let him feel that he almost had a shot at winning me over. The next time he hits on someone else, he'll do it with more courage.

It's much more likely to show up online because I have more time.

However, I've noticed that ExTP women will often display their Ti more openly by sharing their opinions with people or through debates. Their response time to input is faster because they're Pe-Ti, not Ti-Pe. It is not necessarily more accurate, but they do improvise faster.
 

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Interestingly, my ESTP sister tested as ESFP. I think there's pressure for women to give the more 'feeling-like' answers and for men to give the more 'thinking-like' answers to tests. It doesn't change their type though, just their behaviour.
Maybe she's an ESFP. An INFJ friend of mine tries to answer T-like on those tests because she wants to be seen more like her boyfriend and myself.
 

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Maybe she's an ESFP. An INFJ friend of mine tries to answer T-like on those tests because she wants to be seen more like her boyfriend and myself.
I know my sister pretty well. I watched as she filled in the test and noted all the points where I thought the test might screw up her type. We also went over the type descriptions and when she read the ESFP she said that it wasn't very accurate. Then I made her read the ESTP one, that I already thought would be her type and she confirmed that it fit her very well. Now, the type descriptions aren't great, but the ESTP one fit her well enough that I don't doubt it.

By the way: the reason that I think the test missed its mark is that she has ADHD, which means she hates planning and organization (which the test would have interpreted as being low in "thinking"). She's also very social and gets invested in people (which the test interpreted as "feeling"). I knew while she was taking the test what it would answer and I also knew she wouldn't think the result would reflect her personality.

And of course people can fool the test by filling it out by how they would like to be seen instead of how they actually are, but I don't think that was the case here.
 

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I've got an INTP friend. We came together in a common musical circumstance, and we became friends just because. I think she likes me a lot! She always has a neat story to share.

She is super quick with humor, and she has interest in a lot of things. She was big into Science Technology Engineering Mathematics when she was younger, and had a good time with her robotics team. She started with a music education major in college, but is now a musical arts major and will be getting her master's in music history, I think.

People like her because she doesn't act outwardly judgmental, and she's funny and creative. She gets along with almost any type—but if you're "wrong," she'll love to call you out on it in small group situations! People don't get along with her/get annoyed with her because you can be "right" or "wrong" in her eyes. If you're "wrong," she probably won't talk to you much, and she'll listen to you even less, and worse, she'll tell others why they shouldn't listen to you either! But you aren't wrong as an entire person, just in your particular way of thinking at the time. Once that's out of the way, it's fine. Sensitive and insecure people might feel really uncomfortable about this. I appreciate the way my xNTP friends can strongly disagree with people without it feeling like they condemn them for eternity. It gives me peace of mind.

She definitely uses that Fe charm when she's talking to gal pals! She joined a music sorority, and she gained friends without losing her sense of identity. She's always got innovation in her mind. She is very quick-witted, very fast at getting other people's jokes and humor. She has a vast array of smile types for different people and circumstances! She is very sarcastic and so dry sometimes that I have to think for a bit to figure out of she's joking or not!

I as an INFP, I get along well with her. Another INFP friend of mine gets along with her less well! He has values that differ from her logic (as do I) and he will stand up for them. Everyone loses during this conflict until the whole matter blows over!

An ENTP friend will comfortably criticize her logic when the conversation leads to it, but they get along well! Her 21st birthday was the day before his, so she insisted that he wear her "Birthday Princess" sash and crown at the bar after midnight! There is a great deal of comfort between them, I think.

I don't see my INTP friend and INTJ friend hit it off the way me and my INFJ friends do. But I can tell my INTJ friend cares about their friendship a lot because she sat for an hour in a corner table in a loud bar, saving money by only having one drink, crammed tight between friends just because she wanted to support/celebrate the INTP on her 21st birthday (the second party, a surprise). I'm personally touched by the gesture!

That's another thing about my INTP friend: She needs a lot of alcohol before she can act as nuts as extraverted partiers! Even then, it barely lasts a moment! The drinking itself is the crazy action because she seems pretty normal, if not a little kinder, when drunk!

I think it takes a while to spot a TP because their extraverted function is a Perceiving function, and it can be pretty personable because of inferior Fe influence. You have to wait around to see the color of their judgement.
 

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Yes, I do, they are about as interesting as all other women. The fact that they are not feelers is obvious. Too much uncertainty (ENTP), carelessness (ESTP) or rigidness (ISTP) when it comes to values (stereotypes ftw). Very clear ability to create structures in support of their perception pursuits.
 

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I know both and INTP and ENTP.
They are smart and logical. They tend to analyse many things correctly. They figure out the best for them and are not reluctant to do what is best for them.
 

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A close friend of mine is an ENTP.. We know each other for six years now so if you have any questions about what she's like feel free to ask :)

In general, I think she fits the ENTP stereotype quite well. She's rather loud, laughs often and talk a lot about everything... If I say everything, I mean EVERYTHING. She can talk about cookie crumbs in one second and about quantum physics in the next. Also, she is very good at debating and if she starts an argument, she almost always wins. In all the time I've known her, I have won about three out of many discussions I had with her. Something in the way she argues makes you forget all your the points you had, leaving you no choice but to agree with her

She's very intelligent - she rarely gets other grades than A and B..... But without studying. She never studies and is too lazy to do anything that bores her (and many things bore her) so she just doesn't study and doesn't care for school but somehow always gets away with that.
Many people tell her that she's cold-hearted or that they can't imagine she actually has feelings... Which is a bit frustrating to her.. But I can see why people think that . She really doesn't show many emotions and has logical reasons for everything.
Irrationality and stupidity make her REALLY upset.
Also she's very confident and autonomic.

So in conclusion... I'd descirbe her as intelligent, rational, imaginative, creative, a bit cold, talkative, energetic, active, maybe a bit intolerant sometimes (especially torwards other people's opinions), persuasive, confident and careless

Haha. As an ENTP female I would say this is scarily accurate, and I have been described this way myself. Pretty true - the good and the bad. In terms of the intolerant - I think that sometimes we focus on breaking down an argument or get so excited about what we are saying that we forget to listen well. We aren't intolerant necessarily (though I can see how it could come across like that, and it is something I try to keep in mind), more we get a loss of focus. As you stated, we get bored by illogical or pedantic things, so we wouldn't bother to be discussing something with someone unless we are either forced to (work, rare other circumstances like the time I was trying to get on a train in Budapest and they wouldn't accept my ticket and I was trying to argue in German that the pass was valid which it was, and the whistle was blowing...blrg, tangent) - what was I saying? Oh yeah, if we didn't have respect for the other person we wouldn't bother talking to you in the first place.

But yeah - good description.
 
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