That's exactly how I think. I started to wonder if I was less intuitive because of it. Then I wondered if I'm only so live-in-the-present because I'm a perceiver and don't like to make decisions before I have to.Ideally, one should live in a mix of both, because IMO the whole 'living in the future' thing that a lot of Ns on this forum, esp Ni users, keep going on about is massively overrated. It won't be so bad if they didn't discount 'living in the present' so much or look down on it so much. Think about it, if you are so fixated on the future, you will never really get 'there', because by the time you get 'there', you're already going off again fixating on the future. It's like a constant moving goalpost; never stopping to enjoy what you've anticipated.
when I was younger, I used to live very much in the present. Now I'm not so sure.
I've heard this point a lot, but for me, living in a mix of both is far from ideal. I get the most happiness from the process of solving a problem, not the solution itself; the process of developing an idea from potential to reality, not the completed reality itself. I don't live in the future either, I live in a reasonably large set of possible futures. That inspires me and keeps me going. It doesn't matter if I've already moved on to the next idea by the time I finish the first one, if I finish it at all, because my joy in life is mostly centred around the idea's potential and not the finished product itself. To me, trying to "enjoy" what I anticipated is stagnation -- not enjoyable at all.Ideally, one should live in a mix of both, because IMO the whole 'living in the future' thing that a lot of Ns on this forum, esp Ni users, keep going on about is massively overrated. It won't be so bad if they didn't discount 'living in the present' so much or look down on it so much. Think about it, if you are so fixated on the future, you will never really get 'there', because by the time you get 'there', you're already going off again fixating, and working towards 'the future'. It's like a constant moving goalpost; never stopping to enjoy what you've anticipated because you never allow yourself to feel that attainment.
I think you're confusing Ne with Ni. Ne is present-focused, and object-focused, like Se. If you're curious about my opinion, you sound like a Ni user.Our different views here seem to centre around the phrase "stopping to enjoy what you've anticipated", and are probably a result of our different perceiving functions. You're Se-Ni, and they're your middle functions, so it makes sense that you'd be able to live in a mix of both present and future quite comfortably. I'm probably perception-dominant, probably Ne, so it makes sense that I'd view standing still trying to enjoy what I've anticipated as stagnation. It pushes me more to the inferior.
Your view on this matter is also very consistent with the E7 fixation.I've heard this point a lot, but for me, living in a mix of both is far from ideal. I get the most happiness from the process of solving a problem, not the solution itself; the process of developing an idea from potential to reality, not the completed reality itself. I don't live in the future either, I live in a reasonably large set of possible futures. That inspires me and keeps me going. It doesn't matter if I've already moved on to the next idea by the time I finish the first one, if I finish it at all, because my joy in life is mostly centred around the idea's potential and not the finished product itself. To me, trying to "enjoy" what I anticipated is stagnation -- not enjoyable at all.
That said, I'm referring exclusively to possible futures that I want. Envisioning a terrible (or even just bad) future gets me depressed and hopeless really fast.
Our different views here seem to centre around the phrase "stopping to enjoy what you've anticipated", and are probably a result of our different perceiving functions. You're Se-Ni, and they're your middle functions, so it makes sense that you'd be able to live in a mix of both present and future quite comfortably. I'm probably perception-dominant, probably Ne, so it makes sense that I'd view standing still trying to enjoy what I've anticipated as stagnation. It pushes me more to the inferior.
Anyway, I'm not sure there is one best way or one ideal, except perhaps an ideal for each perceiving function set (Se-Ni / Ne-Si) or each person, even.
Ne is present-focused in the sense it is stimulated from the present, like Se. But as far as I understand it, the Ne user's mind leaves the present fairly quickly because of cross-contextual thinking. Ne kind of has infinite limbs, and has one limb in each context the Ne user has experienced in life, not just in the present. It spans space and time (ETA2: I should've said Si spans space and time, not Ne, but they work together). But as you suggest, I might be misunderstanding Ne.I think you're confusing Ne with Ni. Ne is present-focused, and object-focused, like Se. If you're curious about my opinion, you sound like a Ni user.