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I manipulate people into doing what I want or to achieve a desired result. I use all sorts of tools to manipulate people, however one of my favorites, is relating to them in their interests, ideologies, hobbies, and so forth. I create this quasi trust which enables me to use them. Typically this is only done with acquaintances, and co-workers. I have never had an issue getting a job, because I can always convince the interviewer, that A.) they love me, and B.) I am the best person for the job.


Any other ESTJ do this as well?
 

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hmm... estp.

Sorry to break it you.
 

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Actually I'm a Polar E with everything else pretty much dead in the middle
 

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I manipulate people into doing what I want or to achieve a desired result. I use all sorts of tools to manipulate people, however one of my favorites, is relating to them in their interests, ideologies, hobbies, and so forth. I create this quasi trust which enables me to use them. Typically this is only done with acquaintances, and co-workers. I have never had an issue getting a job, because I can always convince the interviewer, that A.) they love me, and B.) I am the best person for the job.


Any other ESTJ do this as well?
I manipulate people, but not this way.

Actually I'm a Polar E with everything else pretty much dead in the middle
Ever taken a cog functions test? What you just said is essentially Se + Fe on crack -- Entrepenuer is right, that's ESTP.
 

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Ever taken a cog functions test? What you just said is essentially Se + Fe on crack -- Entrepenuer is right, that's ESTP.
I have not. Do you have a link to a good one?
 

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Results:

Cognitive Process Level of Development (Preference, Skill and Frequency of Use)
extraverted Sensing (Se) *************************************** (39.3)
excellent use
introverted Sensing (Si) ******************* (19.8)
limited use
extraverted Intuiting (Ne) ************************* (25.9)
average use
introverted Intuiting (Ni) ******************************* (32)
good use
extraverted Thinking (Te) ************************************ (36.1)
excellent use
introverted Thinking (Ti) ****************************** (30.1)
good use
extraverted Feeling (Fe) ************************** (26.7)
average use
introverted Feeling (Fi) ****************************** (30.1)
good use
Summary Analysis of Profile
By focusing on the strongest configuration of cognitive processes, your pattern of responses most closely matches individuals of this type: ESFP

Lead (Dominant) Process
Extraverted Sensing (Se): Immersing in the present context. Responding naturally to everything tangible you detect through your senses. Checking with what your gut instincts say. Testing limits and take risks for big rewards.

Support (Auxilliary) Process
Introverted Feeling (Fi): Staying true to who you really are. Paying close attention to your personal identity, values and beliefs. Checking with your conscience. Choosing behavior congruent with what is important to you.
 

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ESFP it is, then.
 

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I used to hate people like that but I have a special needs son who society is really intolorant of, so I have to manipulate a lot. I prefer to refer to it as reframing inaccurrate perspectives for purposes of attaining services and survival nessessities.
 

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I still say ESTP.

Give it six months.
 

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no I dont do that at all. When it comes down to interviews, I dont manipulate people into having my way or for the sake of getting hired.

I separate work from home but I am much more at home and different when I'm not outside.

though, I manipulated my boyfriend into having my way :crazy:

it was for his own safety anyway. I was trying to protect him from wanting to walk down the streets at 12am to think everything over when he wasnt in his normal self that day and if he loved me, he wouldnt have done so :laughing:
 

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I manipulate people into doing what I want or to achieve a desired result. I use all sorts of tools to manipulate people, however one of my favorites, is relating to them in their interests, ideologies, hobbies, and so forth. I create this quasi trust which enables me to use them. Typically this is only done with acquaintances, and co-workers. I have never had an issue getting a job, because I can always convince the interviewer, that A.) they love me, and B.) I am the best person for the job.


Any other ESTJ do this as well?
Ew, no. That's disgusting.

Manipulating others is just against my moral values, although I'm confident that I can do it if I put my effort in it.
But no, really. Just no. I prefer to present myself just like the way I really am.
 

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Again, I agree with WickedQueen. I would think that ESTJs are too righteous, blunt and straightforward to even bother with something like manipulation. It's more a "take it or leave it". I manipulated people into doing stuff for me by giving them simple, direct order on a casual tone of voice, though XD It's not really manipulation, it's more like a way to get things done without offensing anyone by using your controlling powers. I'm working on making people strip for me using this, but so far, they've all stopped at the belt. XD
 

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I can manipulate people when I am in social functions so that I get along better with them, or should I say, they feel they are getting along better with me.

Anybody else have this problem? It is too easy to 'manipulate' myself or the person (not sure who is really being manipulated) and get close, then find myself somewhere I don't want to be. This is an issue I have been trying to overcome recently. :confused:
 

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I can manipulate people when I am in social functions so that I get along better with them, or should I say, they feel they are getting along better with me.

Anybody else have this problem? It is too easy to 'manipulate' myself or the person (not sure who is really being manipulated) and get close, then find myself somewhere I don't want to be. This is an issue I have been trying to overcome recently. :confused:

Is that really manipulating a person or is it manipulating the social situation?

Manipulating a person or violating your own moral compass can put you into places you don't want to be. Toying with your social atmosphere or revealing only strategic pieces of yourself to certain people is just good people skills.
 

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My ESTJ father tries pressuring me into things because my INTJ mom doesn't even realize she pulls his puppet strings. But its hasn't been malicious. After a funeral for my grandfather, my mom wanted to go spend time with the widow, so my father was basically pressuring me (I don't have the exact words he used) to go. But my social energy was taxed and I couldn't take anymore and needed a nap after spending the first 8 hours talking to weeping family members. He later apologized for pressuring me.

Also the military is run by a great many number of ESTJ's and they're always telling me about their little methods on how to get people to do stuff. Sometimes its all you can do to get people off their ass, sometimes you just need to be a friendly guy.
 

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I manipulate people into doing what I want or to achieve a desired result. I use all sorts of tools to manipulate people, however one of my favorites, is relating to them in their interests, ideologies, hobbies, and so forth. I create this quasi trust which enables me to use them.
...Any other ESTJ do this as well?
This sounds exactly like my step-dad...he is always telling us little stories including details of a Dale Carnegie book he once read which he sees as a tool in getting on with people by becoming interested in whatever they happen to be in to. he's quite amazing but very bossy and always has to have the last word. My poor mom is going nuts with him now retired from his business as his latest fiasco is organizing and taking over her customary role in the kitchen and other household stuff.

He cannot be told anything as he knows everything including stuff he hasn't got a clue about!

He is wonderful to me and my kids although he is very judgmental and opinionated in lots of things. But yes he certainly is manipulative. And it's always his way or the highway...and he holds grudges too for the most strange reasons.
 
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