I need a lot of sleep, regularly, myself; I become a scary not-functioning version that I detest being around when I'm any level of tired! Your write up of it was rather beautiful.
Does tiredness push you deeper into Ni ?
Though I hadn't considered it in terms of cognitive functions, it's something I've noticed for years... when you're sleep deprived, or mentally fatigued in a similar way for any other reasons, do you find yourself deeper in your own head, and notice that your Se is weakened ?
On the particular day I was struck by the thought, for instance... the air was cool & crisp, I'd already been running for a couple miles at a solid pace, in nature, shirtless- conditions that would typically be conducive to a "clear" head. Nonetheless I found myself struggling to take in the details of my surroundings with the vivid sort of perception I like to when alone in nature. I'd had little sleep the night before. Certain times I am a very keen observer of vegetation, geography, etc & find it a stimulating game of sorts to be as mindfully present as possible in my observation. But other times, like on that run, I basically felt like an abstract, floating ball of Ni. My very conscious efforts to take in my surroundings were met with cloudiness and an inability to focus in a clear way.
It's dawning on me as I write this that obviously lack of sleep impairs the ability to focus in anyone. But I'd suspect from my own experience that INFJ's may be more prone to a rather insurmountable withdrawal from reality under said conditions. I suppose logically Se would be the first function sacrificed when cognition is weakened... But I'd propose that my "kinda tired" brain would lose in a test of Se to a hungover sensor who'd been up for two days.
Anyway. This is a dynamic particularly of interest to me as I've concluded time after time that optimizing my Se is crucial to my creating a reality that's in harmony with my intuition, imagination, and subconscious. Any thoughts on any element of this stuff are very welcome...
On the particular day I was struck by the thought, for instance... the air was cool & crisp, I'd already been running for a couple miles at a solid pace, in nature, shirtless- conditions that would typically be conducive to a "clear" head. Nonetheless I found myself struggling to take in the details of my surroundings with the vivid sort of perception I like to when alone in nature. I'd had little sleep the night before. Certain times I am a very keen observer of vegetation, geography, etc & find it a stimulating game of sorts to be as mindfully present as possible in my observation. But other times, like on that run, I basically felt like an abstract, floating ball of Ni. My very conscious efforts to take in my surroundings were met with cloudiness and an inability to focus in a clear way.
It's dawning on me as I write this that obviously lack of sleep impairs the ability to focus in anyone. But I'd suspect from my own experience that INFJ's may be more prone to a rather insurmountable withdrawal from reality under said conditions. I suppose logically Se would be the first function sacrificed when cognition is weakened... But I'd propose that my "kinda tired" brain would lose in a test of Se to a hungover sensor who'd been up for two days.
Anyway. This is a dynamic particularly of interest to me as I've concluded time after time that optimizing my Se is crucial to my creating a reality that's in harmony with my intuition, imagination, and subconscious. Any thoughts on any element of this stuff are very welcome...
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I often find myself less patient with my Ni assumptions and expectations not coming true. It's often minute things: I will have a harder time adjusting to changing plans like which bar we're going to with friends, or a friend being a few minutes late, or not performing music up to my usual standards. When better rested, it's easier to use Se to inform Ni in real'er-time.
That would be interesting. As an ENFP, when I get very tired I get pushed into Si, and yes Fi..
Yes and it makes my Ti stop working.
Definitely! I remember when I had to wake up at 5 am for my summer job as a cleaner and I was just mopping away and daydreaming/writing stories and scenarios in my head. Not in this world at all, that takes more effort.
What Kirjuri strikes me as very similar.
Yes, however I, when tired, am struggling so hard that I just do really boring Te stuff that lines up with Se -- you know, move the widget into the right hole and make sure you don't start the place on fire.
I'm often very tired, which is how I say it's better to be assured of resting oneself.
Cannot feel or have anything but vague intuitions in a tired state, is always regression to a sort of barely-functional automaton.
Don't know why I was reading this, obviously not INFJ, don't worry about it.
Yes, however I, when tired, am struggling so hard that I just do really boring Te stuff that lines up with Se -- you know, move the widget into the right hole and make sure you don't start the place on fire.
I'm often very tired, which is how I say it's better to be assured of resting oneself.
Cannot feel or have anything but vague intuitions in a tired state, is always regression to a sort of barely-functional automaton.
Don't know why I was reading this, obviously not INFJ, don't worry about it.
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