In comparison, do ENFP males differ much from ENFP females?
Yes!! I don't know why people continue to deny this.I always think there is a difference between males verses females of any type.
Ugh. Why does this have to be true? As a natural people pleaser and wanting people to be happy, I have troubles drawing boundaries at work. :/They can be pushovers for the wrong people. That could be any type but, I have noticed they are taken advantage of more so or let other take advantage of them.
Haha! Frilly?I have noticed the females are more frilly than their male counter parts.
No ; P Although, I would not put it past you guys lol Maybe, frilly was not the right word. More put together and setting trends. It is between you guys and ENFJs on the aesthetic front.Yes!! I don't know why people continue to deny this.
Ugh. Why does this have to be true? As a natural people pleaser and wanting people to be happy, I have troubles drawing boundaries at work. :/
Ha! Thank you SO MUCH for calling out ENFP males in the first part. Thought only I saw this.Well forgive me ahead if I offend it’s really not my intention just perceptions
Male Pros: Really inspirational when they are just being. Incredibly adaptable and able to mesh and learn with many kinds of people. Generally have a very happy go lucky disposition which rubs off on others.
Male ENFP Cons: That I have met, tend to; want their cake and to eat it too. Whether of been my ex husband or even some male ENFP coworkers. They tend to prefer to step back during big decisions and big moments and let others take the lead. Offering little contribution to concrete issues and solutions. But then when the storm passes and the adults have all solved the hard shit they tend to come in on the tail end of resolution and present themselves like they saved the mother fucken day. You could say as a woman who is capable and an actual trouble shooter I definitely struggle with a man who sets in the background until the mess is cleaned and then jumps in to pick up the last scrap and presents themselves as someone who contributed.
Then for me as an ESTP female it pisses me off because these men then want to take on an alpha role in all the piddly petty trouble shooting. Not knowing much of streamlining and trouble shooting logistics. They often goof off in the background and do act like the jester. Fine everyone has their place. But then don’t come and stand up to the big boys and girls solving things and throwing tantrums when you’re not relied upon. I literally wanted to throat punch a coworker of mine for acting like this. I was all fine allowing his goofballness etc but when he tried to misportray himself as handling shit which I clearly kept under wraps I about lost my fucken shit on him. I noticed he wanted a voice and to contribute but the problem was from my view he lost his voice the minute he elected to goof off leaving others with the burden of solution. Again can’t have your cake and eat it to. Either act like a fucken adult and show up on time and contribute in the same mindless BS tasks the rest of us have to or relinquish your right to fucken count as a voice or in taking credit for anything.
:laughing: they do all actually attempt to portray themselves as riding in on a white fucken horse. :laughing: Bitch I will knock you the fuck off that thing myself. Be a playful, lovable, goofball, all you want but then step back and know your role!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angry:
ENFP women can be extremely clever and cunning unlike their counterparts. Male ENFPs will sulk more when they don’t get their way and show their pride is hurt. It’s transparent. Tantrums. So male ENFP less manipulative. ENFP women are like the true masters of coy femininity. Gawd hope the guy who ends up with them can stand their ground when it comes to being hoodwinked and possessed :laughing: My best friend is ENFP. She is all good with exception she likes being Alpha. I am a sigma. That means 80% of the time I do not give a shit. But that 20% when her bullets were misfired at me (friendly fire) were total BS. Now we are 35 and she just had a baby so she is a lot more grounded. When we were under 30 though she was a hypocrite. For example she would sleep with an acquaintances distant ex, crush, or sibling. But then get pissy if someone did the same thinking it was fair game. I.e. she believes rule apply for her not to her. An estp has another code they tend to see it in application to everyone or no one. I.e. what is good for the goose is good for the gandor. Uh when we were younger she was sort of passive aggressively bitchy on the sly to other females where it was not called for. I think this was more of a reflection of feeling like ‘always a bridesmaid, never a bride’ rather than type. But it’s a reflection of how an ENFP who feels picked over would act to other women when it applies. I never competed back with her though. It seemed so fucken petty and stupid I would always ignore :laughing: (which totally annoyed her that I turned a blind eye to it all together). Again she has since matured and stopped acting like that.
-A funny con is her and animal rights. Seriously WTF. She takes it so serious. Uh no I am not going to watch black fish, I seen free willy when I was 10 (this isn’t new, news). She went from loving zoos (which I never liked) to demonizing people who go to sea world.
-Anotuer idiotic thing is she is all pro Hilary because Hilary is a woman. That shit is fucken stupid to me. I don’t care if someone likes Hilary but I do think it’s ridiculous if their logic is because she has a vagina.
Pros: Both Perceivers with low give a fucks about society crap; I.e. We don’t really assign too much judgement value to other people’s lifestyles and choices. We both can roll with the punches and go by the fly.
-Funloving (this applies to both male & female) outside SP, NFP most funloving for the experience
-Also usually down to earth not the same as SP obviously as they have more flights of fantasy, but usually pretty chill and can be humble.
I think that both bring a very heartfelt and soulful love and chemistry to those they care about and in their bedroom approach. These are passionate people. (I like passion so much it’s tatted on the back of my thigh :wink: )
I'm beginning to get the impression that you don't like ENFP men. :OHa! Thank you SO MUCH for calling out ENFP males in the first part. Thought only I saw this.
If it’s makes you feel any better, I’m entirely suspicious of Hillary.
How do you usually differentiate ESFP females ENFP females? I thought ESFPs were the masters of hoodwinking and coy femininity. :laughing:
Also what type is the father of your enfp friends baby?
I want to momentarily hijack this thread to share with you a little excited moment about what I feel to be my ideal ENFP woman. Here's a link.I don't really think asthetics, personal style, or looks has anything to do with ENFP functions, unless the ENFP has placed a value on these with Fi and Te. Some have, some haven't. Asthetics are for sure not going to be a part of the description of Ne/Fi.
The question is, is trans-contextual thinking (Ne) different for the guys than for the girls? Is introverted feeling (Fi) different in the guys than the girls? Is there a difference in Te or Si?
Okay, well I think ENFP girls are a bit more cautious, but so are most girls. This is the thing I heard a ENFP man say who discovered that he was actually married to an ENFP woman after 20 years of marriage. It was the caution thing that threw him off... but I wonder if she was particularly cautious. I seem to see more Te development in the guys. Otherwise, the guys have more male hormones and penises and facial hair and the girls have more girl hormones, vaginas, breasts and wombs.
I can't even imagine how boring this sounds to an Se dom. lol.
I want to momentarily hijack this thread to share with you a little excited moment about what I feel to be my ideal ENFP woman. Here's a link.I seem to find everything about her mannerisms very interesting! The fast talking, excitable nature. The trouble with always finding the best words to get her thought out. The occasional pauses. She's one of several ENFP Youtubers I watch. Maybe "ideal" isn't the best word, but "my idea of." It's how I'd imagine an ENFP woman to be like. I'm sure there are many kinds.
I'm trying to stop and wonder now why I shared. Maybe I just wanted to share my excitement and you seem like a cool non judging person. I don't really watch a lot of ENFP men, so I have little input on them other than my own personal experiences.
Oh? That's what she claims to be. That's what I claim to be too, but sometimes I wonder. I've taken three tests now that say I'm ENFP.I’ve been watching that woman closely for a while. She’s not an ENFP.
First, don't take the test and especially 16personalities test. That's literally the worst and most comical mbti test anyone can take and majority of the time, they will surely be mistyped.Oh? That's what she claims to be. That's what I claim to be too, but sometimes I wonder. I've taken three tests now that say I'm ENFP.
This is the one I trust the most. Then there was another test, I forgot what it was but I have pictures. A few days ago, it was the socionics test I mentioned somewhere on here but that gave me IEE. I mean, I couldn't tell you myself what any of it really means, I just have results.
As for Mary, maybe I just jumped to conclusions. She has a man anyway so not like anything can come of this interest. So what type is she really, then?
Ah, okay then! I have to run off to work soon, but I'll keep that test in mind. I'll probably post the results somewhere too, or I can show you in PM if you'd like.First, don't take the test and especially 16personalities test. That's literally the worst and most comical mbti test anyone can take and majority of the time, they will surely be mistyped.
If you want a better test with more of a 75% chance of accuracy, take the ones on Similar Minds or Humanmetrics.
Second, she claims to be ENFP doesn't mean she actually is.
She uses high Ne for sure and I sense that it's played up in front of camera in an effort to emphasize how stereotypically "ENFP" she is when she isn't.
I'm not saying ENFP is completely out of the picture, but from my own observations of her visuals, her tonal voices, way she speaks and carries herself, she vibes some sort of ESxJ.
Tertiary Ne that's exaggerated looks deceivingly ENFP-ish.
Third, she's a little embarrassing to watch.