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I just got back from a 5 day camping/fishing trip. While I enjoy fishing, I really don't like camping much. I find everything from the cold, or heat, bugs, lack of hygiene such as you'd find in a tent or trailer, exposure to the elements, etc. to be a very Se experience. Therefore it's pretty off-puting to me, yet so many sensor types seem to enjoy this pastime.

Do you like, or do you dislike, the camping experience?
 

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I really dislike having to use outhouses that are crawling with god knows what, from itty bitty germs to huge ass flies and mosquitoes. I can survive and have somewhat enjoyed everything else. Going on a road trip, not knowing of everything to expect. Small encounters whether they be bad or good that arise. Anything from unexpected weather to accommodations, and of course nature in its man made preserved glory.

But then again, outside of a school trip back in the day, I haven't been on one longer than 2 or 3. The idea of everybody being out in the heat and not showering for that long is straight up repulsive. First world problems I guess...
 

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@BenevolentBitterBleeding It's also important for me to add that camping often precludes by its nature the intuitive and introspective stuff I enjoy (writing, Wikipedia surfing, documentary watching) that are the bread and butter of my everyday mental/emotional life. The dearth of inspiration hits me usually on the second full day of camping.
 

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I don't mind camping, especially if it is in a not crowded place with access to landscapes and solitary walks.
I used to do camping trips in my youth, I enjoyed it for the opportunity to be by myself and do outdoor calm activities (gathering woods and starting fires, water, walking around).
The negative sides is the promiscuity with others, and physical pain if you are not healthy.
 

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I need to do more camping that doesn't include LARP... I've invested a lot of money to make my camping experience as comfortable as possible and yet I still come back up being miserably damp, wading through mud, battling against winds that threaten to dismantle your tent, never able to completely clean the dirt off my hands, dealing with blocked toilets with a thick layer of what you hope is mud everywhere... I love the days when it's so hot that the ground is baked and you can't even get your tent pegs in and the worst you have to deal with is midges and bugs invading the tent. There's never an in-between.

But because it's LARP I always come back no matter the pain of the weather. I've been close to buying a indoor firepit/stove for my tent that's how dedicated I am. I've been camping without LARP too. It's a very peaceful experience. I love just being with nature without other people to interrupt me almost as much as I enjoy being in the middle of a loud festival.

Sitting around a campfire, singing songs. The smell of the fire, the freshness of the air, the company and entertainment... It's beautiful.

I daydream about camping in more desert like conditions or isolated on the mountains without a person in sight.

Maybe it is a Se experience. I find Se experiences invigorating and memorable though.
 
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Maybe it is a Se experience. I find Se experiences invigorating and memorable though.
I like camping on my own when I have a decent enough mattress - I've got some back issues and can't sleep on just anything. Everything else I can deal with, even if heavy rain really sucks. I've never had any friends who cared for camping though so don't really have much experience of sitting around a fire with others, except when I was very young a long time ago. Oh, and when I did my military service at 20 ... did a fair bit of running/crawling around in the woods & military style camping then. I grew up on the countryside and nature is a major source of pleasure and relaxation for me.

I generally don't mind bugs too much, there are decent anti-mozzie solutions these days (vitamin B patches etc.). I obviously don't like camping anywhere with truly venomous creatures, but as long as I know nothing can seriously harm me, I don't mind critters & crawlers.

There is a pleasure in the pathless woods,
There is a rapture on the lonely shore...
 

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We've got a holiday in Israel especially dedicated to a bonfire all-nighter, so had my ample experiences with that.

Oh, and when I did my military service at 20 ... did a fair bit of running/crawling around in the woods & military style camping then.
I loved courses in navigating, or any field week for that matter. There was something freeing and bonding about it that you can't recreate outside of the army framework. Not to mention, this was my best friend:

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Especially when I've had to go for number two. It felt like sitting on a throne worthy of a king, overlooking the scenery of your realm that you've just conquered. Really sorry for the imagery, but it's an experience unmatched in its tranquility.
 
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Especially when I've had to go for number two. It felt like sitting on a throne worthy of a king, overlooking the scenery of your realm that you've just conquered. Really sorry for the imagery, but it's an experience unmatched in its tranquility.
It was mostly winter when I served, there's tons of nature in Sweden and we'd generally take a dump sitting on a tree branch strung between two trees, i.e. all you needed for a "toilet" was a sturdy enough branch and either rope or a couple of nails, plus you dug a hole in the ground under. Snow is decent for wiping your arse, too. Birch bark also works.
 

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I love camping , feel most alive and at peace out in the woods, I prefer mountains /trees and lake over beaches anyday, roasting marshmallows in front of the campfire- pretending that I'm possess to scare my superstitious friends for the sake of it - good memories
I've camped at lake Tahoe multiple of times, mount Shasta, Yosemite etc I think the camp site in important though - I have no interest in fishing though - boring and I cant bear seeing dead fishes . My istp husband on the other hand is addicted to fishing

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I like camping, it's great to cut out all the noise, just be alone with one's self (or friend), be surrounded by natural things instead of human constructs. And I really like starting campfires. I got started out camping to find a setting to play with hallucinogens, and that combo really opened my eyes to nature. I have tended to take quick one or two day backpacking trips in very secluded places, have done Death Valley, Big Sur, Yosemite, Yellowstone and others. I always look for really out of the way camp grounds, or find a suitable spot that's not specifically designated and do some guerrilla camping. A few national parks in the US allow camping anywhere, I like that.

Now a lot of what I liked about camping is what I like about where I live, very secluded, surrounded by nature, so I haven't thought about going out for a while. If I really want a quick camping trip, I can hike up stream side from here for a few minutes, and I'll be totally alone and in the forest.
 

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I love camping. I do think I’m experiencing a lot of Se while out in nature and it is key to my happiness and well being. I need nature and where I live now is kiss-the-ground beautiful and I moved here on purpose to enjoy it.
 

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I love camping. I do think I’m experiencing a lot of Se while out in nature and it is key to my happiness and well being. I need nature and where I live now is kiss-the-ground beautiful and I moved here on purpose to enjoy it.
I dont think its Se related - but more Si
Si takes in the 5 senses whereas Se acts it out
I think any function can play into enjoying the outdoor or camping - Se enjoys quick fast outward gratification which is different than enfp a enjoy scenery - but perhaps it's just me

I like taking in the view - the smell - the warmth of the fire during night time and the light breeze of wind morning time
Getting lost within thoughts day dreaming or reading on the hammock during the day time
Gathering around with friends around the campfire playing truth or dare or 2 truth and 1 lie ( no function can describe that)

Whereas my husband enjoys hunting - archery shooting down glass bottles .
My esfp cousin hates camping and prefer the beach along with many Sp users I know

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I dont think its Se related - but more Si
Si takes in the 5 senses whereas Se acts it out
I think any function can play into enjoying the outdoor or camping - Se enjoys quick fast outward gratification which is different than enfp a enjoy scenery - but perhaps it's just me

I like taking in the view - the smell - the warmth of the fire during night time and the light breeze of wind morning time
Getting lost within thoughts day dreaming or reading on the hammock during the day time
Gathering around with friends around the campfire playing truth or dare or 2 truth and 1 lie ( no function can describe that)

Whereas my husband enjoys hunting - archery shooting down glass bottles .
My esfp cousin hates camping and prefer the beach along with many Sp users I know

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I'm very much of the school that we don't have appreciable access to our shadow functions, which is why they're called shadow functions.

Camping as far as how they engage in my functions is only dimly a sensory experience. There's a Si connection to my youth, wandering in the desert of my home. But more so than that, it's a very Ne-Fi activity for me. I like to experience thinking in a different way in a different setting, imagine what it would be like to not live in a civilization. And it's a way for me to affirm things that are important to my values, it's about life and natural energy, and give myself time to think about who I am away from the things that want to tell me who I am, and about feeling independent. My Tert Te loves to plan and prepare for the excursions, it makes me feel unnaturally powerful.
 

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I quite like camping. I loved it as a kid.-Although if you can't fall asleep that tends to shit on the experience quite a bit.

I love anything that makes me physically exhausted and uncomfortable, I don't know why. Probably because I spend most of the time feeling a low-key restlessness when I'm just comfortable. I used to love kayaking at uni.. getting changed in the freezing cold, the ice cold rapids when you capsize demanding your senses to be fully present in the moment, the group hugs to get warm by the river while we're waiting for the car, the beer in the pub afterwards to warm you up.. Damn.

As an adult I think I would need to be with friends and have some booze to enjoy camping though. I haven't gone camping without there being drinking involved since I was a kid so maybe I wouldn't enjoy it quite so much as I used to trying to get to sleep sober with a big root digging into my back and mosquitos all on my face and people snoring when you can't get to sleep yourself.
 

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I dont think its Se related - but more Si
Si takes in the 5 senses whereas Se acts it out
I think any function can play into enjoying the outdoor or camping - Se enjoys quick fast outward gratification which is different than enfp a enjoy scenery - but perhaps it's just me

I like taking in the view - the smell - the warmth of the fire during night time and the light breeze of wind morning time
Getting lost within thoughts day dreaming or reading on the hammock during the day time
Gathering around with friends around the campfire playing truth or dare or 2 truth and 1 lie ( no function can describe that)

Whereas my husband enjoys hunting - archery shooting down glass bottles .
My esfp cousin hates camping and prefer the beach along with many Sp users I know

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That's true, my mum is the same (ESFP). She had a camper van and used it to get to the beach!

I never really looked at Si this way. I'm still discovering things about it. I like this description, makes a lot of sense.
 

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I love camping! It is an adventure and nothing better than a hearty campfire meal and some good conversation \ music around the fire. Also a great time to share a few brews with great friends.

I grew up in the dirt, I don't necessarily mind "roughin it" but not too rough lol. If I wanted to invest, I would quasi glamp....just cause I like gadgets and finding interesting ways to get comfortable!
 

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I dont think its Se related - but more Si
Si takes in the 5 senses whereas Se acts it out
I think any function can play into enjoying the outdoor or camping - Se enjoys quick fast outward gratification which is different than enfp a enjoy scenery - but perhaps it's just me

I like taking in the view - the smell - the warmth of the fire during night time and the light breeze of wind morning time
Getting lost within thoughts day dreaming or reading on the hammock during the day time
Gathering around with friends around the campfire playing truth or dare or 2 truth and 1 lie ( no function can describe that)

Whereas my husband enjoys hunting - archery shooting down glass bottles .
My esfp cousin hates camping and prefer the beach along with many Sp users I know

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That's interesting, Ai about the Si. I've loved hearing about one more thing we have in common and the way you write about it. I'd love to go camping with you and we;ll have to go hiking for sure! You know it!
 

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That's interesting, Ai about the Si. I've loved hearing about one more thing we have in common and the way you write about it. I'd love to go camping with you and we;ll have to go hiking for sure! You know it!
Yes! Definitely on the hiking :) or a long walk !
What's your favorite camp memory?

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Yes! Definitely on the hiking :) or a long walk !
What's your favorite camp memory?

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I have so many it's hard to choose. There was a lovely night camping on a small bridge listening to the water and before it got dark, just looking up at the trees and soaking in the look of the sunlight filtering in through the leaves. I believe that was right after I got home from Denmark and then waited out the winter. I think it was May, I had been craving my mountains for so long and when I got in them I just couldn't get over how good it felt and how they were truly everything I had been craving and more and memorized what it did to me.

Hiking to Angel's Landing in Zion's with a group of college kids. That is some view!

Sleeping under Delicate Arch with my roommates from Moab... just looking up at the moon and the arch together. Nobody does that! But of course kids from Moab do! I learned to really love the striations in red rock down there. We went "home to Moab" a lot with those girls who for a long while were like sisters to me.

In high school I went on "Survival" with 20 kids from all different walks of life. It was led by school counselors. I got really close to all of the sincere real people who came. I think... this did influence me quite a bit really because the counselors really helped us all to be very vulnerable with each other and I really shone in that environment and felt like a leader for the first time and the kids were from every clique in the school. Jocks and stoners. I got along with everyone and was a very unifying force, but afterwards it was very interesting to see who went back to their cliques and didn't keep their friendships...or might not even acknowledge them... It was very very interesting.

I love that growing up my mom would just spot caves or cool things to check out from the road when we were on trips and we would just stop and all explore it. My mom took us to so many cool hikes.

Yellowstone with my family when my kids were maybe 7-9 and we just all loved the hot pots area. It's so gorgeous in NE Yellowstone! It's very spiritual to see the steam rising and all the colors with the background of the pines and elk grazing. Just gorgeous!

And I love caves and so do my kids. I took them to Timpanogus cave when they were little and the formations are so pretty. I think they'll always love caves like I do.

Here, I like going where nobody goes... at least I've never seen a soul there... where I can get on top of a cliff that juts out into the ocean and is near a lighthouse and my dog and I play up there, it's like a little meadow, where you're just looking out into the Pacific Ocean.

On my birthday on Saturday I'm going on an extended hike to 1000 feet above the ocean, there's wildflowers up there and old old-growth Douglas firs.... 10 feet around at the trunk where no lumberjacks were ever allowed. It's been protected. I am amazed that this is what Oregon would actually look like before loggers... it feels like a tropical jungle almost. Huge plants... very different. I am SO looking forward to it!
 
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