What's your type, and are you a vegetarian or vegan?

Type 1, yes
Votes: 2 2.8%
Type 1, no
Votes: 3 4.2%
Type 2, yes
Votes: 1 1.4%
Type 2, no
Votes: 0 0.0%
Type 3, yes
Votes: 1 1.4%
Type 3, no
Votes: 4 5.6%
Type 4, yes
Votes: 12 16.7%
Type 4, no
Votes: 8 11.1%
Type 5, yes
Votes: 2 2.8%
Type 5, no
Votes: 8 11.1%
Type 6, yes
Votes: 3 4.2%
Type 6, no
Votes: 5 6.9%
Type 7, yes
Votes: 4 5.6%
Type 7, no
Votes: 5 6.9%
Type 8, yes
Votes: 1 1.4%
Type 8, no
Votes: 1 1.4%
Type 9, yes
Votes: 6 8.3%
Type 9, no
Votes: 6 8.3%

Total voters

72

Enneagram and Vegetarianism/Veganism

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Stan the Woz

Discussion Starter · Apr 21, 2012

So it occurred to me that there might be some correlation between enneagram type and the prevalence of vegetarianism/veganism. Respond to the poll with your type and whether you are or not, and feel free to discuss any theories on the matter - what types do you think might be more likely to go vegetarian or vegan?

I'll start. I'm a type 1 and a vegetarian, and I wonder if there might be some correlation between certain types (1 and 4, maybe?) and taking up this kind of lifestyle. I'd imagine 1's might want to do it because of ethical reasons (avoiding animal mistreatment, or just seeing it as a virtuous thing) and 4's...I don't know. I'm not a 4. But it seems like there might be some tendency. Thoughts?

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Sina

· #2 · Apr 21, 2012

I doubt there is a statistically significant correlation lol. But, as far as personal observations are concerned, I know a lot of veg*n ones (do it for ethical reasons) and even nines. My 1w9 partner is a vegetarian for ethical reasons.

I have been vegetarian in the past, but it was mostly for fun. My diet is 95% vegetarian anyway because, culturally, meat isn't prepared often where I come from. I know many 3s who are veg*ns for "health" (read: weight loss/maintaining 'svelte' figure) reasons, and there are some who follow the diet for moral reasons. I know a few veg*n 7s.

sodden

· #3 · Apr 21, 2012

I was a vegetarian for ten years, primarily for ethical reasons. Ethical: I empathize with and love animals, why would I eat them? Also for the strain it puts on the environment. Then I got pregnant and craved beef like mad and decided my body needed it. I eat meat maybe once or twice a week now. I also got tired of being so anal about food. That said, if I were to follow my principles whole heartedly, I would be a vegan again. I've just become a disillusioned slacker.

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Stan the Woz

Discussion Starter · #4 · Apr 21, 2012

Boss - Yeah, I wasn't trying to say it was caused by type or anything like that, just that it seemed like there could be some interesting connections due to type motivations. I'm also not trying to call anyone out as "immoral" for not being vegetarian - that's your business. I will say, regarding correlations, that I would wonder what the type least likely to be vegetarian is - I'd imagine it's probably 8, as I would think a lot of 8's would be not only less likely to worry about the deep moral implications (1 or 4) or body image which can benefit from such a lifestyle (3) and more likely to like the idea of "power", or as a man said when I asked him about it, "species dominance" that carnivorousness allows.

brainheart - Yeah, I see where you're coming from. Personally, I've been a vegetarian for 15 years (or more significantly, about 80% of my life) because as a little kid I was pretty freaked out by the idea of eating animals. But once again, I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad. You have to find what works for you - no one else can.

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Sina

· #5 · Apr 21, 2012

@Stan the Woz, I didn't think that you were judging anyone here at all

. It's an interesting question. Now that I think about it, 6s also tend to have veg*n leanings because of their feelings for the underdog and their response to oppression, broadly speaking. Some of them tend to empathize with animals quite a bit.

And yes, theoretically speaking, 8s would be least likely to adopt veg*nism for the reasons you gave.
In my case, personal pleasure trumps nearly every other consideration which is why I can't stick with any kind of restrictive diet. I do avoid factory farmed meat because I disagree with the extreme mistreatment of animals (their blatant commodification), the less than acceptable quality and taste of the meat, but it's not a big enough deal to me that I'd give up meat over it. I am a 3, btw. And, again, you needn't worry about the moral judgment part. That wasn't even on my mind.

p.s. to mention/summon a member just place @username

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username

· #6 · Apr 21, 2012

Boss said:
p.s. to mention/summon a member just place @username

Youuu raaaaaangg [in my deep, 'Lurch' voice]?

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Sina

· #7 · Apr 21, 2012

username said:
Youuu raaaaaangg [in my deep, 'Lurch' voice]?

well hello there *dramatic hair flip*

thanks for demonstrating my point lofl. I was surprised when I saw that username was actually someone's "username", but then I left it alone. Hilarious.

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RoSoDude

· #8 · Apr 21, 2012

I am not a vegetarian, but that's more just because of what my family eats. I wouldn't want to inconvenience them; were I to become vegetarian it would be because of how horrible the meat we eat in America is, and how terrible conditions are for the animals. It's not so much about morality for me but just how bad our food industry is. It's more about my base skepticism/cynicism (typical 6 stuff) than any focus on what is right or wrong (a concept I'm not so sure I believe in objectively).

So I'm not, but I could be. Eh.

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Stan the Woz

Discussion Starter · #9 · Apr 21, 2012

@Boss: Okay, good. Just wanted to make sure.

Your point about personal preference is certainly true - biologically, certain people enjoy the taste of meat more than others, and I doubt that would have any meaningful correlation with type (and it could definitely be a determining factor). The question is how much of the population of vegetarians and vegans are those people for whom preference was a major factor (or, at least not a big inhibition) and how many chose moral reasons over that. It could certainly be true that the biological factors are more prevalent than any kind of psychological motivations.

Vivid Melody

· #10 · Apr 21, 2012

I am currently a vegan for health reasons but pretty sure I mostly want to stay this way because I don't agree with how most farm animals in this country (the U.S.) are treated. If I do ever buy meat, not supporting companies that abuse animals. It's appalling and it breaks my heart.

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Stan the Woz

Discussion Starter · #11 · Apr 22, 2012

It is rather...unnerving at times. One of the things I'm glad about (retroactively) is that I became a vegetarian early, so I didn't have the moment of "Oh god what is this" when I learned about the horrible conditions in some factories.

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Mendi the ISFJ

· #12 · Apr 22, 2012

Stan the Woz said:
It is rather...unnerving at times. One of the things I'm glad about (retroactively) is that I became a vegetarian early, so I didn't have the moment of "Oh god what is this" when I learned about the horrible conditions in some factories.

what were the deciding factors in your becoming a vegetarian?

Swordsman of Mana

· #13 · Apr 22, 2012

most likely: 1, 2, 9
least likely: 7, 8

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Chili990

· #14 · Apr 22, 2012

Currently it seems that I'm the only vegetarian type 8 here. For me, vegetarian diet has been a way to rebel against my meat eating family. Yet they accept my choices.

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sodden

· #15 · Apr 22, 2012

RoSoDude said:
I am not a vegetarian, but that's more just because of what my family eats. I wouldn't want to inconvenience them; were I to become vegetarian it would be because of how horrible the meat we eat in America is, and how terrible conditions are for the animals. It's not so much about morality for me but just how bad our food industry is. It's more about my base skepticism/cynicism (typical 6 stuff) than any focus on what is right or wrong (a concept I'm not so sure I believe in objectively).

So I'm not, but I could be. Eh.

yeah, part of my deal is I'm married to a meat eater, so I make a point to buy local pasture raised eggs, organic cage free chicken, and pasture raised beef. I get yogurt and cheese from cows who are supposed to be humanely treated. It's not as good as being a vegan, but it's better than nothing.

I can see a lot of (especially healthier) fours being vegetarians. Part of being a four is empathy and sensitivity, not to mention introspection. So we're inclined to consider our values and our actions. there's too much emphasis placed on our being self absorbed, but that's an unhealthy quality.

I should add my brother, a 5, has been a vegetarian for the past twenty years. He is because he hates how farm animals have taken over wild land and he wishes they would go away. I can relate to this too. I'd much rather have wild animals around than domesticated ones.

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Stan the Woz

Discussion Starter · #16 · Apr 22, 2012

Mendi the ISFJ said:
what were the deciding factors in your becoming a vegetarian?

I became a vegetarian when I first learned what meat was (around the age of 3). I was fundamentally disturbed by the idea of eating something that had been an animal (I had a lot of fears as a little kid, so this is probably partly a manifestation of that).

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aconite

· #17 · Apr 23, 2012

I became a vegetarian when I was 13. Eating corpses is very disgusting to me, and I dislike how animals are treated. I've never really liked meat, and I do just fine without it. After several weeks I started to realise that meat smells very bad (people who eat it are used to the smell_ - it's hard to eat something that reeks of morgue, you know?

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BeauGarcon

· #18 · Apr 23, 2012

I'm vegetarian. And I hate to explain why, people always seem so negative about this - like you want attention.

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Coburn

· #19 · Apr 23, 2012

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Stan the Woz

Discussion Starter · #20 · Apr 24, 2012

JuliaRhys said:

:L

I dunno about that, man. I hear we're kinda stringy.

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