So, I have tested ENFJ over and over. I have also tested equal %'s on Enneagram 8 over and over. I was recently asked "How does this work? How can you be ENFJ and an 8?" This was a fair question, and I intend on answering it, BUT....it is complicated and some of it is too intimate for me to just discuss openly.
My reluctance made me turn to co workers and friends...People who have known me for a year or more. The over all consensus was that 8 really fits. When showed them ENFJ...they also heartily agreed. I asked them ok..logically, this should not work. ~I~ can see it, my co-workers can see it, but it seem that I need help explaining it to someone else.
One very basic comparison that would like to start with is...
ENFJs are externally focused, introspective, altruistic, positive and have excellent people skills. They place utmost importance on helping others grow. They are warm and have a natural desire to be supportive and encouraging. Being charismatic and possessing excellent language skills, they do well in leadership roles. ENFJs strive to enhance the lives of their human brethren.
EIGHTS are attracted to and appreciate power. They desire to be strong, independent, straightforward, assertive persons, who use their strength and influence to make the world a more just place to live in. They value equity, the equal distribution of power, and show a concern for the underprivileged and disenfranchised. Being your own person, doing your own thing, protecting your own is what life is all about.
I could be wrong, but I do not feel that these are mutually exclusive. I think 8 enhances and deepens some of the more primal/warrior-esque tendencies sides of ENFJ.... I understand that I ~should~ be a 2 or 9 or something more ...squishy yummy? But I seem to be the vibrant, bouncing ball of molten lava with a smile on my face....
Are there any ENFJ's out there who have an enneagram number that seems to be contradictory? Or any other ENFJs who can see the correlation between 8 and ENFJ like I can?
Thank you
My reluctance made me turn to co workers and friends...People who have known me for a year or more. The over all consensus was that 8 really fits. When showed them ENFJ...they also heartily agreed. I asked them ok..logically, this should not work. ~I~ can see it, my co-workers can see it, but it seem that I need help explaining it to someone else.
One very basic comparison that would like to start with is...
ENFJs are externally focused, introspective, altruistic, positive and have excellent people skills. They place utmost importance on helping others grow. They are warm and have a natural desire to be supportive and encouraging. Being charismatic and possessing excellent language skills, they do well in leadership roles. ENFJs strive to enhance the lives of their human brethren.
EIGHTS are attracted to and appreciate power. They desire to be strong, independent, straightforward, assertive persons, who use their strength and influence to make the world a more just place to live in. They value equity, the equal distribution of power, and show a concern for the underprivileged and disenfranchised. Being your own person, doing your own thing, protecting your own is what life is all about.
I could be wrong, but I do not feel that these are mutually exclusive. I think 8 enhances and deepens some of the more primal/warrior-esque tendencies sides of ENFJ.... I understand that I ~should~ be a 2 or 9 or something more ...squishy yummy? But I seem to be the vibrant, bouncing ball of molten lava with a smile on my face....
Are there any ENFJ's out there who have an enneagram number that seems to be contradictory? Or any other ENFJs who can see the correlation between 8 and ENFJ like I can?
Thank you