entp/ enfj / infj - help me out!...?

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freshblue

Discussion Starter · Jul 24, 2010

If you could help me out on this one I would gladly appreciate it.

I have taken the MB test allot of times and in the past I've been typed as Entp and I was fine with it until recently when I've seen it does not longer suit me.I've retaken the test and these are the last 3 results that came out: entp.enfj.infj All came out at differences of days... and funny enough I feel like all 3 of them.

Note: the highest percent has always been the Intuitive Function - introverted or extroverted depending on the type that came out.
The I and the E, the P and the J and the F and the T have always been balanced...
Except the T which was higher in the past but I understood that in the INFJ, the T is still highly used.

So, how can I know where to place myself?
I really neeeeed to know this. So if you have even a hunch of an idea... give it a shot!
highly appreciated.

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freshblue

Discussion Starter · #2 · Jul 24, 2010 (Edited)

Silly me. Ok, more info.
But it's gonna become more or less serious.

Being ENTP:

I like the feel of freedom that I have when being this type.I love the world of ideas and the abstract and I feel I get inspired by almost anything that I encounter.Most often I like to "play dumb" when I am like this and sometimes appear as ENFP having fun testing people out and such.But when "the fun" gets over (it's really something much more deeper) I feel a need for closure and concrete achievements and they HAVE to include people and helping or bettering.

...then I become ENFJ:

I love how confident I feel when being like this and how resourceful I feel at helping others, yet I somehow feel I let go of allot of "ME" when I act like this so I become...

INFJ:
Helps me keep alot of my inner richness and I somehow feel I connect in my deepest identity with this type yet it just seems I can't stay for too long like this.I get easily bored and tired (psychically/physically)I end up contradicting my own convictions not wanting to feel brainwashed so I keep asking myself why I believe what I believe keeping my free will alive and in this process I go back to the ENTP.

Tell me. Did you get anything?

Yep... I thought so.:bored:

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freshblue

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jul 24, 2010

It's ok, no need to post so much.:dry:
I settled for INFJ right now... see where it takes me.

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Antagonist

· #4 · Jul 31, 2010

From what I gather you're pretty solid in your N-ness but that doesn't necessarily mean it's your dominant. You have INFJ and ENTP in the mix because they are dominant N, but you have ENFJ and not INTP. Clearly you identify strongly with the Fe+Ti rather than Fi+Te axis, and you indeed do describe a strong Fe tendency.

Since you haven't included INTP I'm going to assume you don't really feel strongly towards Ti. While it's possible you're an ENTP who is dwelling on your tertiary Fe, I doubt it since when the tertiary attitude "takes over" and informs your dominant over your secondary it usually ends up in a negative "abusing" way instead of a healthy attitude.

What you described about ENTP is really a general N attitude, and doesn't indicate any specific type or even Ne over Ni, but needing closure points towards J and the thing about people and bettering strongly points toward dominant Fe.

I'm not really understanding what you're saying about INFJ. It sounds to me that you're less comfortable, as it is, in the introverted realm than the extraverted realm. You say you can only "go" introverted for a limited time and then… ENTP, right? I think you're extraverted naturally and are just tiring of introversion and need to get "out", but not necessarily in an ENTP way. This on top of the fact that you are suggesting two E types would point more toward ENFJ.

I'd suggest reading up on each attitude individually and find which you agree with most as your dominant. Don't think of them as functions but instead as your focus or goal. Here are a few pages to get you started.

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Abstract Essence

· #5 · Jul 31, 2010

Hmm interesting. I go in a cycle of these same types. In fact, as I read your descriptions, I find that I can relate and almost fill in between the lines. I believe that some people have more mutable minds than others. Some focus mental fixation and concreteness of ideas, others on the advancement of ideas and and others on adquiring different genuine perspectives to analize the same trite truths and gather new ideas. I believe that you and I are of the latter category and it would make sense that we would fluctuate on a cycle of personalities, specially such visionary and truth seeking personalities as the ENTP, ENFJ and INFJ. Also, it seems to me that INFJs more than any other personality, seems to be able to hold more than one personality in their behavuor, which is why they are constantly mistyped.
I think that your Fe seems to be your pivot, though. You move it from tertiary, to main and then secundary. It would seem from that pattern that you are trying to find balance on its influence... I think that you and I are most confortable at the INFJ core with a need to flip the introverted switch off and feel as part of the world.
I am now trying to wrap my mind and behavour around the concept that introversion merely means that )thoughts preceed action

it does not mean that we have to be loners or quite people to healthy.

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freshblue

Discussion Starter · #6 · Aug 2, 2010

Abstract Essence said:
Hmm interesting. I go in a cycle of these same types. In fact, as I read your descriptions, I find that I can relate and almost fill in between the lines. I believe that some people have more mutable minds than others. Some focus mental fixation and concreteness of ideas, others on the advancement of ideas and and others on adquiring different genuine perspectives to analize the same trite truths and gather new ideas. I believe that you and I are of the latter category and it would make sense that we would fluctuate on a cycle of personalities, specially such visionary and truth seeking personalities as the ENTP, ENFJ and INFJ. Also, it seems to me that INFJs more than any other personality, seems to be able to hold more than one personality in their behavuor, which is why they are constantly mistyped.
I think that your Fe seems to be your pivot, though. You move it from tertiary, to main and then secundary. It would seem from that pattern that you are trying to find balance on its influence... I think that you and I are most confortable at the INFJ core with a need to flip the introverted switch off and feel as part of the world.
I am now trying to wrap my mind and behavour around the concept that introversion merely means that )thoughts preceed action it does not mean that we have to be loners or quite people to healthy.

Right on!
Filling between your lines as well.And I almost want to smack myself when I realize I sometimes don't give the proper attention or "dot the i" as it could be said on explaining how my inner and outer "system" works. I just found out that I found myself more in your words then in mine...aheam.
About the introversion meaning "thoughts precede action" I can totally understand.For me it has the role of controlling impulses which I do not longer desire even though in their roughness they maybe representing a part of my personality but for what I choose to be characteristic on a wider range they only bring confusion into the game.
And I also have an on/off button, otherwise I think I may become really frustrated from all that unconsumed energy.

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freshblue

Discussion Starter · #7 · Aug 2, 2010

Antagonist said:
From what I gather you're pretty solid in your N-ness but that doesn't necessarily mean it's your dominant. You have INFJ and ENTP in the mix because they are dominant N, but you have ENFJ and not INTP. Clearly you identify strongly with the Fe+Ti rather than Fi+Te axis, and you indeed do describe a strong Fe tendency.

Since you haven't included INTP I'm going to assume you don't really feel strongly towards Ti. While it's possible you're an ENTP who is dwelling on your tertiary Fe, I doubt it since when the tertiary attitude "takes over" and informs your dominant over your secondary it usually ends up in a negative "abusing" way instead of a healthy attitude.

What you described about ENTP is really a general N attitude, and doesn't indicate any specific type or even Ne over Ni, but needing closure points towards J and the thing about people and bettering strongly points toward dominant Fe.

I'm not really understanding what you're saying about INFJ. It sounds to me that you're less comfortable, as it is, in the introverted realm than the extraverted realm. You say you can only "go" introverted for a limited time and then… ENTP, right? I think you're extraverted naturally and are just tiring of introversion and need to get "out", but not necessarily in an ENTP way. This on top of the fact that you are suggesting two E types would point more toward ENFJ.

I'd suggest reading up on each attitude individually and find which you agree with most as your dominant. Don't think of them as functions but instead as your focus or goal. Here are a few pages to get you started.

I know that gathering ENTP / ENFJ and INFJ, it would be logically to take the doubled EN + the doubled FJ and tah-dah! equals ENFJ...but I think us people function and evolve/develop a little bit non-logical as much as logic does bring it's saving light on us...
Anyway, many thanks for your precise judgement and those pages that you've shown me. I've had the time to fast read them and I will certainly put more depth in my search as I've seen allot of elements that I've skipped in my know it all attitude (sometimes :dry

also Leonore Thomson seems an intriguing personality to follow through in writings and bio as well... great start-up point. danke!http://greenlightwiki.com/lenore-exegesis/Lenore_Thomson

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