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Those results are so ambiguous, they could literally point to any type.

That's why I always it's better to just learn the theory first hand then to rely on tests.
 

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Are you action-driven or idea driven?
Do you spot the patters and underlines, or what can be seen or heard with the 5 senses, aka, do you notice body language, for example? As an entp, i'm so much in my head or engaged in the convo of ideas, i hardly notice anything like that. But I may notice the persons motive instead. The stuff that goes on 'behind' the picture.
 

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*entps are more introverted then an estp, usually
*estps are adrenalin junkies. entps like to be mentally stimulated, etc.
 

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ESTPs live more in the present and are more practical. The entps have se on the very last stack, which means, they absolutely suck at that.
 

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ESTPs live more in the present and are more practical. The entps have se on the very last stack, which means, they absolutely suck at that.
Although i like debating and knowing theories I’m practical I notice small details I can taste any food and know the ingredients. I like adrenaline and i have a long list of things i want to try.
do you think that an estp can have many data?
 

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Although i like debating and knowing theories I’m practical I notice small details I can taste any food and know the ingredients. I like adrenaline and i have a long list of things i want to try.
do you think that an estp can have many data?
Yes, of course....Let's see... checks the estp stat chart


This is the estp stack

Se People with Se as their dominant cognitive function know what is going on around them at all times. They can sense any change in physical movement in the room.
Ti People whose dominant function is Ti are known for being very analytical, very logical and very objective. Their brains are wired to for that. (this is second function for the estp and entp. for entps it works more united usually tho, wile its more seperete for the estp, if that makes sense to you.
Fe People whose dominant function is Extraverted Feeling, focus their decision making on the external world (outside the mind) and the primary focus is on people and human kind. (relif function for both, weak until certain maturity
Ni You are used to having insights and hunches that frequently turn out to be correct. These "aha" moments are introverted intuiting at work. (weak for estps
(this is last for estp, but a parent to entp
The entp stack is

Ne
People with dominant Extroverted Intuition (Ne) have an infinite number of ideas and suggestions on how to make the future better.
They can see several possible futures. When you want to do brainstorming, you need someone with a dominant Ne function. Their minds will shoot out new ideas faster than most people can absorb them. (estp does not have this in their first stack at all


Ti People whose dominant function is Ti are known for being very analytical, very logical and very objective. Their brains are wired to for that.
Fe People whose dominant function is Extraverted Feeling, focus their decision making on the external world (outside the mind) and the primary focus is on people and human kind.
Si
Introverted Sensing is best understood when compared to Extraverted Sensing. With Se, the individual perceives exactly what the senses are telling it, live and in real time.
With Si, the individual perceives mostly stored memories of previous sensory experiences. Thus the person with dominant Introverted Sensing will experience something real time, but then they will quickly compare it to stored memories in their minds. (this is last for entp, but a parent to estp

Ti is considered with their own, subjective logic, organazing deta in their heads. a dominat ti is intp and istp for example.
Ne sees patterns, futures etc
Se lives in the moment
Ni gets hunches dominat ni is an intj or infj to give you an idea.
Si is memory, and making assumptions based of it istj isfj are dom here
Fe is extroverted feeling, its weak in both, until a certain age, or forever. esfj enfj fe dom
Fi is your own subjective morals and values.infps are fi dom as are isfps


Hope this gives you a bit of an idea.

entps can like physical social adrenaline too, i'd think. they''re just not very *present. I heard this quotes once which describes it well In a more abstract sense,' the can enjoy life, without seeming terribly attached to it''.
*entps love ideas and theories usually. once their ti is more mature, they usually/sometimes find intellectual interests
*fun fact; a ton of intps are mystyped entps, and a bunch of entps are mistyped estps. And there's a reason for this, since they may seem similar in a lot of ways. But they have some, as you saw, distinct enough differences.


I hope you get the idea now, but if not, i urge you to check out the function and how each works

Understanding the Roles (Archetypes)

We all play different roles in life. Sometimes father, mother, child, brother, sister, teacher, student. Your functions have 8 different roles to play.

Function 1) Hero / Heroine Role

Your strongest function will be in the hero / heroine role. This is how you "save the day." This is your dominant cognitive function.


When life calls on you to save the day, you will call on, and depend on your dominant function.


f you look at your life, at a time that you made the most progress, or you did something really significant, where you had to work hard at it, but you succeeded, it was your hero function doing the heavy lifting and saving the day for you.

Function 2) Auxiliary / Supportive / Parent Role

This is your second strongest function. It supports your Hero function. It's helpful to think that together the first two functions account for ~ 90% of your personality.


It's called the "Parent" function because it's used in a helping, positive, supportive way.


According to John Beebe, the Jungian Analyst who expanded Carl Jung's work of the 8 function model, when you reach out to help someone, it's your second function that you start with.

Function 3) Tertiary / Relief Role / Eternal Child

Whichever function falls into the 3rd position, the "Relief Role," will be the one that is almost always weak and troublesome.


It does not develop until mid life. Because of this it gets very little exercise and very little practice. Thus if you are called to use this function in your teens or mid twenties, you will fall flat on your face.


You won't be able to count on this function as you do your top two functions.


Psychologists suggest that you should get to know your tertiary function in a relaxed, playful, recreational, stress free manner. Thus it's called the "Relief" function.

Function 4) Inferior / Aspirational Role

Whichever function falls into the 4th position, will also be weak for you but it holds something special as the name "Aspirational" indicates.


Whichever function falls here, describes what you aspire to.


Yes, early on in life, using your 4th function is a source of weakness, maybe failure, maybe even shame. You probably can not perform the skills and tasks that are normally associated with this function.


But you will find great satisfaction and maybe even breakthroughs, from periodically trying to exercise this function.


In particular, the 4th function is considered the doorway to the unconscious. It's through using this function in a low pressure, low stress, friendly way that you can tap into the unconscious and all the energy and creativity that is stored there.


So make sure you keeping trying to use your 4th function. It will help you become all you can be.

Function 5) Opposing Role

Your 5th function is used mainly as a defense. It's how you might become stubborn, uncooperative, unfriendly, rude, or obstructive.


So look at the fifth function for your 4 letter type. See what it is all about, and ask yourself if that is not how you become defensive, stubborn etc.

Function 6) Critical Parent Role

We all have experienced a critical parent in our lives. It's when a parent tells you that you are doing something wrong or you are doing something poorly.


The critical parent is a voice in your head that will cause you to criticize yourself and others.


Whichever function falls into this position will determine the flavor of your self criticism.

Function 7) The Trickster Role

Which ever function falls into the 7th position will cause you grief throughout your life.


The role of the trickster is to deceive and distort what you experience, or think you experience.


Mike Shur the Assessment Specialist and personality type expert describes the 7th function as walking through the fun house at a carnival. This is the room full of mirrors that stretch you and distort you, making you taller and thinner than you really are.


You will most often experience the 7th function when you are stressed or under pressure, or overly tired. You can not trust your perceptions or judgments when your 7th function is in charge.


You will see things and believe things that are not real. You will put yourself or others in a double bind situation, which forces people to lose.


People describe it as being in the grip of their 7th function.

Function 8) Demonic / Transformative Role

Which ever function falls into the 8th position describes how you are when you are the most destructive. Thus the term "Demonic Role."


The 8th function can also be transformative, propelling you to greater personal growth and maturity.


But most often, when a situation calls for you to use your 8th function, it's not going to be pretty.




Your Strengths, Weaknesses and Blind Spots

The strongest function is called your dominant function and it usually is well developed by age 13.


The second strongest function is called your auxiliary / supportive function. It supports your dominant function. It usually develops by age 21.


Together your dominant and auxiliary function probably describe 90% of your personality type, on a good day. So you almost don't need to know about the other 6 functions.


Except that knowing those other 6 functions will show you where you are the weakest, where you have blind spots, and where you will experience the most personal growth as an adult.


Your 3rd function is known as your tertiary function. It's never going to be all that strong that you can depend on it, but you will probably find that activities that use your 3rd function will be very relaxing and recreational for you.


Your 4th function is called your inferior function for a reason. It's a weak area for you. However, it also represents the area for maximum personal growth.


The 4th function is said to be the doorway to your unconscious. The unconscious is actually where all of our energy comes from. It is full of new potential. So for growth you want to open the door and let some of it come out. Activities that involve your 4th function will open the door.


Lets look at an INTJ for example. Their 8 functions are listed below in what is known as the Beebe Model, after John Beebe, noted Jungian Analyst.
 

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Although i like debating and knowing theories I’m practical I notice small details I can taste any food and know the ingredients. I like adrenaline and i have a long list of things i want to try.
do you think that an estp can have many data?
Um I'm going to suggest a slightly simpler answer. If there are parts of you that don't fit as ENTP and there are parts of you that don't fit ESTP then you are neither. You are you and denying a part of who you are to fit into one of these 'types' might not be in your best interest.
 

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If neither fit well enough, you shouldn't worry too much for now. Or, at all.
But I think, when your self awarness is high enough, one generalization will fit better then the next. And you can use it as you will.
 

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Yes, of course....Let's see... checks the estp stat chart


This is the estp stack

Se People with Se as their dominant cognitive function know what is going on around them at all times. They can sense any change in physical movement in the room.
Ti People whose dominant function is Ti are known for being very analytical, very logical and very objective. Their brains are wired to for that. (this is second function for the estp and entp. for entps it works more united usually tho, wile its more seperete for the estp, if that makes sense to you.
Fe People whose dominant function is Extraverted Feeling, focus their decision making on the external world (outside the mind) and the primary focus is on people and human kind. (relif function for both, weak until certain maturity
Ni You are used to having insights and hunches that frequently turn out to be correct. These "aha" moments are introverted intuiting at work. (weak for estps
(this is last for estp, but a parent to entp
The entp stack is

Ne
People with dominant Extroverted Intuition (Ne) have an infinite number of ideas and suggestions on how to make the future better.
They can see several possible futures. When you want to do brainstorming, you need someone with a dominant Ne function. Their minds will shoot out new ideas faster than most people can absorb them. (estp does not have this in their first stack at all


Ti People whose dominant function is Ti are known for being very analytical, very logical and very objective. Their brains are wired to for that.
Fe People whose dominant function is Extraverted Feeling, focus their decision making on the external world (outside the mind) and the primary focus is on people and human kind.
Si
Introverted Sensing is best understood when compared to Extraverted Sensing. With Se, the individual perceives exactly what the senses are telling it, live and in real time.
With Si, the individual perceives mostly stored memories of previous sensory experiences. Thus the person with dominant Introverted Sensing will experience something real time, but then they will quickly compare it to stored memories in their minds. (this is last for entp, but a parent to estp

Ti is considered with their own, subjective logic, organazing deta in their heads. a dominat ti is intp and istp for example.
Ne sees patterns, futures etc
Se lives in the moment
Ni gets hunches dominat ni is an intj or infj to give you an idea.
Si is memory, and making assumptions based of it istj isfj are dom here
Fe is extroverted feeling, its weak in both, until a certain age, or forever. esfj enfj fe dom
Fi is your own subjective morals and values.infps are fi dom as are isfps


Hope this gives you a bit of an idea.

entps can like physical social adrenaline too, i'd think. they''re just not very *present. I heard this quotes once which describes it well In a more abstract sense,' the can enjoy life, without seeming terribly attached to it''.
*entps love ideas and theories usually. once their ti is more mature, they usually/sometimes find intellectual interests
*fun fact; a ton of intps are mystyped entps, and a bunch of entps are mistyped estps. And there's a reason for this, since they may seem similar in a lot of ways. But they have some, as you saw, distinct enough differences.


I hope you get the idea now, but if not, i urge you to check out the function and how each works

Understanding the Roles (Archetypes)

We all play different roles in life. Sometimes father, mother, child, brother, sister, teacher, student. Your functions have 8 different roles to play.

Function 1) Hero / Heroine Role

Your strongest function will be in the hero / heroine role. This is how you "save the day." This is your dominant cognitive function.


When life calls on you to save the day, you will call on, and depend on your dominant function.


f you look at your life, at a time that you made the most progress, or you did something really significant, where you had to work hard at it, but you succeeded, it was your hero function doing the heavy lifting and saving the day for you.

Function 2) Auxiliary / Supportive / Parent Role

This is your second strongest function. It supports your Hero function. It's helpful to think that together the first two functions account for ~ 90% of your personality.


It's called the "Parent" function because it's used in a helping, positive, supportive way.


According to John Beebe, the Jungian Analyst who expanded Carl Jung's work of the 8 function model, when you reach out to help someone, it's your second function that you start with.

Function 3) Tertiary / Relief Role / Eternal Child

Whichever function falls into the 3rd position, the "Relief Role," will be the one that is almost always weak and troublesome.


It does not develop until mid life. Because of this it gets very little exercise and very little practice. Thus if you are called to use this function in your teens or mid twenties, you will fall flat on your face.


You won't be able to count on this function as you do your top two functions.


Psychologists suggest that you should get to know your tertiary function in a relaxed, playful, recreational, stress free manner. Thus it's called the "Relief" function.

Function 4) Inferior / Aspirational Role

Whichever function falls into the 4th position, will also be weak for you but it holds something special as the name "Aspirational" indicates.


Whichever function falls here, describes what you aspire to.


Yes, early on in life, using your 4th function is a source of weakness, maybe failure, maybe even shame. You probably can not perform the skills and tasks that are normally associated with this function.


But you will find great satisfaction and maybe even breakthroughs, from periodically trying to exercise this function.


In particular, the 4th function is considered the doorway to the unconscious. It's through using this function in a low pressure, low stress, friendly way that you can tap into the unconscious and all the energy and creativity that is stored there.


So make sure you keeping trying to use your 4th function. It will help you become all you can be.

Function 5) Opposing Role

Your 5th function is used mainly as a defense. It's how you might become stubborn, uncooperative, unfriendly, rude, or obstructive.


So look at the fifth function for your 4 letter type. See what it is all about, and ask yourself if that is not how you become defensive, stubborn etc.

Function 6) Critical Parent Role

We all have experienced a critical parent in our lives. It's when a parent tells you that you are doing something wrong or you are doing something poorly.


The critical parent is a voice in your head that will cause you to criticize yourself and others.


Whichever function falls into this position will determine the flavor of your self criticism.

Function 7) The Trickster Role

Which ever function falls into the 7th position will cause you grief throughout your life.


The role of the trickster is to deceive and distort what you experience, or think you experience.


Mike Shur the Assessment Specialist and personality type expert describes the 7th function as walking through the fun house at a carnival. This is the room full of mirrors that stretch you and distort you, making you taller and thinner than you really are.


You will most often experience the 7th function when you are stressed or under pressure, or overly tired. You can not trust your perceptions or judgments when your 7th function is in charge.


You will see things and believe things that are not real. You will put yourself or others in a double bind situation, which forces people to lose.


People describe it as being in the grip of their 7th function.

Function 8) Demonic / Transformative Role

Which ever function falls into the 8th position describes how you are when you are the most destructive. Thus the term "Demonic Role."


The 8th function can also be transformative, propelling you to greater personal growth and maturity.


But most often, when a situation calls for you to use your 8th function, it's not going to be pretty.




Your Strengths, Weaknesses and Blind Spots

The strongest function is called your dominant function and it usually is well developed by age 13.


The second strongest function is called your auxiliary / supportive function. It supports your dominant function. It usually develops by age 21.


Together your dominant and auxiliary function probably describe 90% of your personality type, on a good day. So you almost don't need to know about the other 6 functions.


Except that knowing those other 6 functions will show you where you are the weakest, where you have blind spots, and where you will experience the most personal growth as an adult.


Your 3rd function is known as your tertiary function. It's never going to be all that strong that you can depend on it, but you will probably find that activities that use your 3rd function will be very relaxing and recreational for you.


Your 4th function is called your inferior function for a reason. It's a weak area for you. However, it also represents the area for maximum personal growth.


The 4th function is said to be the doorway to your unconscious. The unconscious is actually where all of our energy comes from. It is full of new potential. So for growth you want to open the door and let some of it come out. Activities that involve your 4th function will open the door.


Lets look at an INTJ for example. Their 8 functions are listed below in what is known as the Beebe Model, after John Beebe, noted Jungian Analyst.
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Um I'm going to suggest a slightly simpler answer. If there are parts of you that don't fit as ENTP and there are parts of you that don't fit ESTP then you are neither. You are you and denying a part of who you are to fit into one of these 'types' might not be in your best interest.
I won’t of course, i’ll focus till i see my true self :))
 

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Remember, that at the end of the day, it's a generalization which can be pretty damn accurate on a somewhat casual level, to help you with self awareness, understanding yourself and others etc...but you'll still be you in a sense. All entps and estps, and the rest; while they have the same stack, there are several 'types' of them. Types in a type that get so wide, and under so many layers, it's impossible to pin everyone down accuratly...however, the generalization itself I think, does work. And it's insigtful, and it's fun, depending on who you ask.
 

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Oh, one word of advice...If you get too much into it, you may actually start overthinking it...so take your time, and take a break too.
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Remember, that at the end of the day, it's a generalization which can be pretty damn accurate on a somewhat casual level, to help you with self awareness, understanding yourself and others etc...but you'll still be you in a sense. All entps and estps, and the rest; while they have the same stack, there are several 'types' of them. Types in a type that get so wide, and under so many layers, it's impossible to pin everyone down accuratly...however, the generalization itself I think, does work. And it's insigtful, and it's fun, depending on who you ask.
thank you so much for caring about me, i hope that i can contact you soon telling you what i found :))
 

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Are you a skinny guy who thinks he's a smartass or are you a jack who thinks he's an alpha?


Yeah I went there...
 
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