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ENTP or INTP

hi i'm new to personality cafe and i've tested as ENTP on a lot of tests except for the big five where i've been INTP.

I'm pretty sure that i'm NTP, just not sure where i am on introversion vs extroversion.
On tests i usually score about 15 to 30 percent more E than I, but i seem to identify just as well with the INTP description as with the ENTP one.

So....... here's a little about me.

1. I like hanging out with fiends although I might equally enjoy staying at home reading some interesting book or watching a movie.

2. I hate the rigor of formal social situations and try to lighten the mood a little by doing weird things like tapping glasses with forks and knives during dinners

3. Parties are ok as long as they aren't too loud and wild.I'm never the "let's roll, bitches" guy, but play the role of entertaining a group of friends with some witty observation or story.

4. I enjoy being alone as long as there is something interesting to think about or do.I can spend hours along if I find some stimulating puzzle to think about.

5. At school I play a rather double faced role.All the teachers know me as a brilliant student, almost a role model for others.I don't display the argumentativeness of the ENTP at school and just accept whatever the teacher says while knowing in my head what the truth is.I generally play the role of the brainiac although I turn into the comedian when talking to friends.

6. I'm rather adventurous and have often broken school rules etc, just for the fun of doing so and take pride in having never being caught.

7. When talking to strangers i'm introverted and just answer the questions and act uninterested.

8. I love being unconventional and sometimes do stuff to see how people react.

9. I'm good at public speaking and have won a lot of awards for this and am on the school debating team.

10. I also love maths and i've won international awards on olympiads.

11. Creative writing is another one of my talents.

12. Whenever I meet social situations where the tension is high between two people I'm usually the guy to drop some witty comment and lighten the mood.

13. I can read people very very well and sometimes even predict their behavior.

14. I'm told that i'm a great actor and storyteller although i don't particularly like the second one.

15. I tend to avoid many social occasions if I can help it although when i do attend them I feel energized and happy.

16. Other people have typed me on mbti and both my dad and my brother who are istj and intj respectively place me as an ENTP.My mum(ESFJ) puts me down as an INTP as do my ESFP friends although my introverted friends consider me ENTP.

17. I value ideas more than logic and hold everything I know as tentative truth.

18. My memory is weird in the sense that I cannot recollect whole chunks of important events but can remember flashes of unimportant memories(like losing a cap,etc).

19. I love watching comedy shows like Seinfeld, Blackadder and Monty Python when i'm free.

20. I like arguing but I don't have the argument craze that the mbti description makes out.I know well enough how my arguments will be received by someone and will hold off if I think it would be socially inappropriate.

21. I feel socially awkward even with close friends when I'm alone with one of them but if it's a trio or more I feel a lot more relaxed because the burden of conversation doesn't fall on me.

22. I really like spending my time just randomly surfing the internet for interesting stuff.

23. I'm often thought of as shy and backward by people who don't know me.
 

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You appear to be slightly on the cusp but I would put you as an ENTP. You actually sound like a healthy ENTP. Immature or unhealthy ENTPs tend to argue just to argue, while a more mature one is much better at only arguing when it is appropriate. However, your ability to debate publically (and the fact that you seem to enjoy it enough to do it as an extracurricular activity) really seems to sway you toward ENTP. The INTPs I know are very capable of debating or public speaking but would never choose it as a extracurricular activity. They might do it because school or work requires it though. It seems also you are "healthy" for either type because both INTPs and ENTPs alike often have a hard time keep focused on the SJ-leaning learning atmosphere of school. However, if the teachers caught on early you were smart and you were put in honors classes, you may be doing better than those who's teachers did not. I found I did much better in my honor's classes mainly because they were less about memorizing than theory or interpretation.

Unlike most of the other Extroverts, ENTPs actually like spending time alone, if we are doing something interesting (even reading quietly if it is a good book). I think sometimes ENTPs type themselves as Introverted because of this. However, the reason for liking being alone is not because we are anti-social but because we are interested in something that other people are not as excited about so we would rather be alone than be around someone that does not share our thrill in that thing. For example, I almost prefer to travel alone because then I am able to see the things I want for as long as I want without being tied to someone else's interest or timetable. However, you would not mistake me for being introverted if you met me. If someone called me up and said let's go out an do something fun while I was doing something alone, I would most likely drop it and go out with them.
 

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So don't worry, you're not alone and you're not going to be the first nor the last one to believe he could be an introverted even though he is ENTP. We ENTPs feel very awkwardly introverted around regular extroverted especially when the conversation topic is something banal and mundane.
However, as @Geonerd very well stated, you're probably at the cusp:
21. I feel socially awkward even with close friends when I'm alone with one of them but if it's a trio or more I feel a lot more relaxed because the burden of conversation doesn't fall on me.
To me this is a very extroverted skill. Introverts, at least "my" introverts (INTPs and IxTJs especially) adore one on one conversations. Whereas I prefer to have the more the merrier.

7. When talking to strangers i'm introverted and just answer the questions and act uninterested.
However I think this is more of an introverted thing. New things and new people really fascinate me and if I can choose a place, I prefer that place to be full of new faces.

At the end it all comes down to how you feel more comfortable with. There are some parts of extroversion that you might feel you don't belong and some others would feel like you are totally one of them. Where do you get your energies from? I know ENTPs can quickly answer that they can perfectly charge alone, when they have time on their own to think and be in our heads. But when you remember things about your happy past experiences (Si working) some of the happiest ones tend to be with a lot of people.

Don't feel strange if you don't fit the extroverted descriptions. Everyone's different and everyone feels their extrovertion differently. I, for example, know for sure I'm an extroverted because I tend to speak and then think and in fact I need to speak in order to think most of the times :laughing:
 
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Take this test, I think it's one of the better tests out there. It ask a lot of questions (70 or 80ish I can't remember. Which is better, don't rely on test that just ask 20 questions!) :)


The FACT is that ENTP is the MOST introverted of Extroverts, keep that in mind. So, if the test result still say you are E, it's probably a LOW E, putting you somewhere just slightly over the ambivert range (50-50%)

But, a good test should give you a % that shows you how much you are E/I, rather than not and tell you absolutes.


Things like hanging out with just friends, like quiet parties, and able to read people or get in front to give a speech or perform is hardly E exclusive. Most Is do that too.

But if you love to go out ALL the time to hang out with a lot of strangers, and hate it when you don't get to meet new people, and not afraid of strangers talking to you, or being a social butterfly, then I'd say that's definitely E-exclusive.
 

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Attention is fine with me.

Although I don't go looking for the spotlight, when it does come to me I'm pretty comfortable basking in it.

I don't feel much like talking to strangers because my Fe usually tells me that the person wouldn't share my interests.

So I feel awkward in conversation with nothing to talk about.

It's not social anxiety or anything.
 

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Person may share your interests, but you have to talk to them to find out.

Just don't assume. My main problem with some Introverts (ummm, if you are one, then sorry but let my feelings be heard LOL) is that when I talk to them, they ignore me, they don't even want to talk to me.

EVEN IF I knew there is common interests. I had many experiences like this, and I often started to hate Introverts because of it.
 

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Attention is fine with me.

Although I don't go looking for the spotlight, when it does come to me I'm pretty comfortable basking in it.

I don't feel much like talking to strangers because my Fe usually tells me that the person wouldn't share my interests.

So I feel awkward in conversation with nothing to talk about.

It's not social anxiety or anything.
I'd guess you are still young, 16-20 years old. I also believe you to be an ENTP, with very little Fe development. Developing Fe is what makes social situations fun and enjoyable.

The way you type gives off an enthusiast, type 7 vibe, rather than an investigator, type 5 vibe.
 
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