ENTP Writing Style
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I use the same pattern in probably every piece of writing:
The usual pattern is thesis->explanation/expansion->summary/conclusion
Well if we are talking about exam essay i'll try to write in a conservative(traditional) writing style while talking about something very expandeble, arguable and definitely liberal. (but the most important part is that it's easy to get a good score with, so no over the top revolutionary ideas) I'll create a plan(and suprisingly stick to it), some points I try to deliver and the rest is just the execution.
If it's a free-topic essay I will not limit my topics which means I'll be talking about something very theoretical. I will probably use a lot of figurative language.
(when I say a lot, I mean A S*** TON. It will sound very dramatic, with symbolism, inflammatory language and metaphors bouncing everywhere, a rollercoaster of emotional/dramatic spikes in the text)
I have a habit of not creating or following the plan as I get very excited about these.(rambling, more rambling, MOAR) In fact I spend more time editing than writing.
Sometimes when they ask me to tone down the figurative language I turn the text into a cold, glacial binary code.
When it comes to forum posts I seem to be a lot more comfortable. Probably because it's very similar to my favourite way of communication - vocal/speaking. It's the only place I'm more or less capable of balancing between pure binary and inflammatory bulls***. But new problems rise: I use a lot of side comments, brackets. Some of the previously discussed problems appear in my posts too.
My posts are either:
-30% actual info, 70% text
-70% info(usually with bullet points), 30% text
To be honest I'm a crappy writer, not my forte for sure. I mean the thoughts are great(according to my teacher), but conveying to most people is terrible. I prefer discussion with presentations much more(importantly not the other way around)
The usual pattern is thesis->explanation/expansion->summary/conclusion
Well if we are talking about exam essay i'll try to write in a conservative(traditional) writing style while talking about something very expandeble, arguable and definitely liberal. (but the most important part is that it's easy to get a good score with, so no over the top revolutionary ideas) I'll create a plan(and suprisingly stick to it), some points I try to deliver and the rest is just the execution.
If it's a free-topic essay I will not limit my topics which means I'll be talking about something very theoretical. I will probably use a lot of figurative language.
(when I say a lot, I mean A S*** TON. It will sound very dramatic, with symbolism, inflammatory language and metaphors bouncing everywhere, a rollercoaster of emotional/dramatic spikes in the text)
I have a habit of not creating or following the plan as I get very excited about these.(rambling, more rambling, MOAR) In fact I spend more time editing than writing.
Sometimes when they ask me to tone down the figurative language I turn the text into a cold, glacial binary code.
When it comes to forum posts I seem to be a lot more comfortable. Probably because it's very similar to my favourite way of communication - vocal/speaking. It's the only place I'm more or less capable of balancing between pure binary and inflammatory bulls***. But new problems rise: I use a lot of side comments, brackets. Some of the previously discussed problems appear in my posts too.
My posts are either:
-30% actual info, 70% text
-70% info(usually with bullet points), 30% text
To be honest I'm a crappy writer, not my forte for sure. I mean the thoughts are great(according to my teacher), but conveying to most people is terrible. I prefer discussion with presentations much more(importantly not the other way around)
I love writing, I use it as a tool to assess how I feel about situations because sometimes I just don't know, uh, how to feel.
My writing style is heavily influenced by Oscar Wilde, Kurt Vonnegut and Cracked, the humor site.
Mostly satires or just some bit of my own philosophy I aim to deliver through the use of wit and humor.
My writing style is heavily influenced by Oscar Wilde, Kurt Vonnegut and Cracked, the humor site.
Mostly satires or just some bit of my own philosophy I aim to deliver through the use of wit and humor.
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I so "agree" with that statement.
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I do a lot of scientific and technical writing for work and I work off of general templates in order to keep the data in an order that would make sense to the reader. However, I was the one who came up with the templates in the first place so it is laid out the way I like it. When I am writing creatively, I might make a really rough outline and then generally write free-form and edit the crap out of it later. I write like a 13 year old without auto-correct when I am texting, twittering, or on these forums. I notice the spelling and grammatical errors after I post.
In a side note, one of the funniest comments I got on a paper was for an essay I had to write for my cultural anthropology class in college. I, of course, procrastinated writing the paper until the night before. My roommate and I had a huge group of friends over to watch the season premiere of NBC's Thursday Night Must See TV (ER and Friends-tells you how old I am) and some drinking ensued. By the time everyone left, I still had to write my paper and I was drunk. So I plowed through it, saved it, and passed out on my bed. When my alarm went off, I had to race to class so I just printed out the paper and left without ever re-reading it. When I got it back, I had gotten an A and my professor had written "Great writing. Very coherent". Apparently I write more coherently drunk than sober.
In a side note, one of the funniest comments I got on a paper was for an essay I had to write for my cultural anthropology class in college. I, of course, procrastinated writing the paper until the night before. My roommate and I had a huge group of friends over to watch the season premiere of NBC's Thursday Night Must See TV (ER and Friends-tells you how old I am) and some drinking ensued. By the time everyone left, I still had to write my paper and I was drunk. So I plowed through it, saved it, and passed out on my bed. When my alarm went off, I had to race to class so I just printed out the paper and left without ever re-reading it. When I got it back, I had gotten an A and my professor had written "Great writing. Very coherent". Apparently I write more coherently drunk than sober.
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I'm a writing major and honestly nothing makes me think I suck at writing more than "studying" it.
I rely on a Vonnegut quote about writing:
“I think I succeeded as a writer because I did not come out of an English department. I used to write in the chemistry department. And I wrote some good stuff. If I had been in the English department, the prof would have looked at my short stories, congratulated me on my talent, and then showed me how Joyce or Hemingway handled the same elements of the short story. The prof would have placed me in competition with the greatest writers of all time, and that would have ended my writing career.”
I too use an extraneous amount of ellipses, parenthesis, dashes, and run-ons to illustrate my point. I think it's because I write as if I'm thinking out loud. Also, I really like italics.
My biggest problem is probably that I think too quickly for my writing. I often lack transitions and my points seem random. But to me, it all makes total sense.
Good thing I'm going into television writing! It's the perfect action-packed collaborative writing experience for Ne dominants, IMO.
I rely on a Vonnegut quote about writing:
“I think I succeeded as a writer because I did not come out of an English department. I used to write in the chemistry department. And I wrote some good stuff. If I had been in the English department, the prof would have looked at my short stories, congratulated me on my talent, and then showed me how Joyce or Hemingway handled the same elements of the short story. The prof would have placed me in competition with the greatest writers of all time, and that would have ended my writing career.”
I too use an extraneous amount of ellipses, parenthesis, dashes, and run-ons to illustrate my point. I think it's because I write as if I'm thinking out loud. Also, I really like italics.
My biggest problem is probably that I think too quickly for my writing. I often lack transitions and my points seem random. But to me, it all makes total sense.
Good thing I'm going into television writing! It's the perfect action-packed collaborative writing experience for Ne dominants, IMO.
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Here is me in my Politics of Terrorism course. Apparently the overuse of quotations is a recurring theme.
I think another way one could phrase "terrorism delusion" would be to call it a "mass overreaction". In the days, months, and years after 9/11 politicians and military leaders spoke out warning the public that an entire wave of terrorist attacks on our soil was eminent, and that we needed to direct all funding, support, and resources available to hedge against this threat. As the chart in the reading pointed out, this was all over exaggerated. Less American lives have been lost to terrorist attacks since 9/11 than have died in bathtub drownings or lightning strikes. The problem I have with the reading though is that it asserts that this is all coincidental-there haven't been any large attacks since 9/11, so all the money and resources "wasted" toward the war on terror were for no point. I would like to point out that it's possible that our diligence could have been what hedged us against potential attacks, not that it just happened to not occur as the reading suggests.
One of the largest consequences of terrorism delusion was of course financial. The US spends an absurd amount of money on our military, and this budget continues to grow. If a politician speaks out and says we should lower the military budget, or even just reallocate resources, their opponents will say "9/11" and "that would make us too vulnerable!" Is this true? Is there a point to that amount of spending? I, being a layman at best, have no idea, but it is probably something that should be further analyzed.
Another consequence is the loss of privacy. After 9/11, the Patriot Act was swiftly passed, granting the government more ability to monitor US citizens. This equates to phone tapping, watch lists for readings and internet sites, use of photo imaging systems, and so on. This is all done to prevent terror, but I would hazard a guess that most of us-either before this class if you have studied political science and specifically anything to do with terrorism before, but definitely after this class, are probably on some sort of watch list due to the websites we have visited. Is this right? Is it worth it? There is a large disagreement among people regarding this and it's not a simple question, nor does it have a simple answer.
We have some struggling relationships with allies after it came out that we were monitoring their leaders as well. This hasn't ruined these alliances, but it has definitely strained them.
Finally, some people have completely lost their human rights in the name of fighting terrorism. Guantanamo Bay is still running. People are held, tortured, and interrogated there for years without enough evidence that they could actually be prosecuted.
I think another way one could phrase "terrorism delusion" would be to call it a "mass overreaction". In the days, months, and years after 9/11 politicians and military leaders spoke out warning the public that an entire wave of terrorist attacks on our soil was eminent, and that we needed to direct all funding, support, and resources available to hedge against this threat. As the chart in the reading pointed out, this was all over exaggerated. Less American lives have been lost to terrorist attacks since 9/11 than have died in bathtub drownings or lightning strikes. The problem I have with the reading though is that it asserts that this is all coincidental-there haven't been any large attacks since 9/11, so all the money and resources "wasted" toward the war on terror were for no point. I would like to point out that it's possible that our diligence could have been what hedged us against potential attacks, not that it just happened to not occur as the reading suggests.
One of the largest consequences of terrorism delusion was of course financial. The US spends an absurd amount of money on our military, and this budget continues to grow. If a politician speaks out and says we should lower the military budget, or even just reallocate resources, their opponents will say "9/11" and "that would make us too vulnerable!" Is this true? Is there a point to that amount of spending? I, being a layman at best, have no idea, but it is probably something that should be further analyzed.
Another consequence is the loss of privacy. After 9/11, the Patriot Act was swiftly passed, granting the government more ability to monitor US citizens. This equates to phone tapping, watch lists for readings and internet sites, use of photo imaging systems, and so on. This is all done to prevent terror, but I would hazard a guess that most of us-either before this class if you have studied political science and specifically anything to do with terrorism before, but definitely after this class, are probably on some sort of watch list due to the websites we have visited. Is this right? Is it worth it? There is a large disagreement among people regarding this and it's not a simple question, nor does it have a simple answer.
We have some struggling relationships with allies after it came out that we were monitoring their leaders as well. This hasn't ruined these alliances, but it has definitely strained them.
Finally, some people have completely lost their human rights in the name of fighting terrorism. Guantanamo Bay is still running. People are held, tortured, and interrogated there for years without enough evidence that they could actually be prosecuted.
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Lol You guys, really think BEFORE write?
I just write whatever comes to my mind. I don't care if it's gonna be okay or not, I just write it ( best reflection ever. )
I write articles of common topics ( science, people,... ), stuff from school, or strange shit that comes to my mind. I also write novels of Sci-Fi ( and never finish them... ) ( or start them over and over )
Sometimes I start to over-think more than usually, then take a paper and put it ALL
In conclusion, I write randomly
I just write whatever comes to my mind. I don't care if it's gonna be okay or not, I just write it ( best reflection ever. )
I write articles of common topics ( science, people,... ), stuff from school, or strange shit that comes to my mind. I also write novels of Sci-Fi ( and never finish them... ) ( or start them over and over )
Sometimes I start to over-think more than usually, then take a paper and put it ALL
In conclusion, I write randomly
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Yes, I see components, at first they tumble out in no particular order. I have to collect the paragraphs as I write naturally, but then the draft suggests a priority or sequence and I have to mechanically decide on summary statements or transition phrases for a re-write. I could start with an outline but it still ends up being a hybrid process because certain parts flow, like specific wording to explain one piece to the puzzle. I used to do more long-hand but have grown to appreciate the benefits of cut and paste.
I do a teensey, tiny bit of brainstorming to reference for structure, and I usually gather sources before I actually delve into writing. Most of the time those sources change during the process, but gathering them seems to cause me to think more critically about the topic or something.
When I'm actually ready to write I just kind of spit it out and shine it later. I'll reference my preset structure (which, again, is very loose) during the process. I always read the paper off to someone else and myself as I edit it. For some reason I always think my work is somehow flawed (probably because it is in some minuscule way).
Another thing that I do is write something that I believe to be fact and then find sources that pertain to my "guessed fact" rather than checking the sources themselves for facts. My guesses are usualy spot on though, so that's a plus. When they aren't I just switch up my guess to better fit with the available data.
I tend to use a lot of forms of "to be" as well, and that's a habit I want to get rid of. I read somewhere that ENTPs have a tendency to do that when writing, so I found that interesting.
Anyway here is an entire paper that I recently wrote regarding a Grimm Fairy tale and how it pertains to modern society (the actual message of the story was that one should always marry within their class or race...):
I ran this through the text analyzer and got INTP. Never, even in my casual writings, have I gotten anything other than an "I." I tested it, and it wants lively, descriptive, actiony words to for an E result.
This bit of text got me ESFP: "Bro, let's horseback ride on a brown mare while simultaneously walking 47 purple, shaved poodles down a radical stream."
It could be a fun game to see if anyone can score whatever type the person above them says.
When I'm actually ready to write I just kind of spit it out and shine it later. I'll reference my preset structure (which, again, is very loose) during the process. I always read the paper off to someone else and myself as I edit it. For some reason I always think my work is somehow flawed (probably because it is in some minuscule way).
Another thing that I do is write something that I believe to be fact and then find sources that pertain to my "guessed fact" rather than checking the sources themselves for facts. My guesses are usualy spot on though, so that's a plus. When they aren't I just switch up my guess to better fit with the available data.
I tend to use a lot of forms of "to be" as well, and that's a habit I want to get rid of. I read somewhere that ENTPs have a tendency to do that when writing, so I found that interesting.
Anyway here is an entire paper that I recently wrote regarding a Grimm Fairy tale and how it pertains to modern society (the actual message of the story was that one should always marry within their class or race...):
I ran this through the text analyzer and got INTP. Never, even in my casual writings, have I gotten anything other than an "I." I tested it, and it wants lively, descriptive, actiony words to for an E result.
This bit of text got me ESFP: "Bro, let's horseback ride on a brown mare while simultaneously walking 47 purple, shaved poodles down a radical stream."
It could be a fun game to see if anyone can score whatever type the person above them says.
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