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I've been running through few threads about that recently. From what have seen our kind is great when is present but that roughly ever happens on consist bases. I've met couple ENTPs recently and the key characteristic is that we have a lot of acquaintances but nothing really intense especially when it gets to the boring parts.

I personally see through people, things, patterns, relationships really quickly and get bored of them. People tell me all the time that they hope to stay in touch, or that they are afraid to lose me out of their side but I don't really care. When I'm into something new I almost never give a fuck about someone that I've been having the craziest party or most interesting talk with yesterday. In the last week I met a lot of people that thought I was dead, gone etc. for not answering my phone. This made me think that I don't really have anything that I would call friendship. It is more like having rotation of dozens of buddies old and new ones.

Even sticking with another ENTPs is prone to be dead in no time as either side will find something new or more interesting to do soon. I really don't see any other type that would have such a hard time to maintain any kind of relationship or situation as an ENTP and feel comfortable with it.

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I think that this sort of behavior regarding relationships is characteristic of ETP types.
 

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I don't know my ENTP friends and I have talked just about every day for the past two years. The thing is: we're the only NTs we know! xD

I'm the only INTJ they know, and they're the only other NTs I know. I hate not having NT friends, so I am thankful that they listen to my rants without my having to tell them to(they're usually quite interested). And by GOD, they actually give me feedback!!

I guess we just don't take advantage of each other's mutual interests, and so our friendships stay strong.
 

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I think that this sort of behavior regarding relationships is characteristic of ETP types.
I know many ESTPs and they would at least call you from time to time. I may be thinking about calling/meeting someone but actually most of the time if I don't have any business to do with people I wouldn't do it. From what I've seen, they just go for it and set something up especially if they know that you are fun to be with/are willing to go with the flow. So, I wouldn't put ESTPs and ENTPs in one bag.


I don't know my ENTP friends and I have talked just about every day for the past two years. The thing is: we're the only NTs we know! xD

I'm the only INTJ they know, and they're the only other NTs I know. I hate not having NT friends, so I am thankful that they listen to my rants without my having to tell them to(they're usually quite interested). And by GOD, they actually give me feedback!!

I guess we just don't take advantage of each other's mutual interests, and so our friendships stay strong.
To think of it I have had always dozens of NTs around me. In secondary school my class was filled up with Ns. I suspect two girls to be INTJs. And this IS rare breed. Same situation at uni - NT paradise. Again, at work I meet Ns left and right. This might be the case that I didn't need to really look for Ns because they are always there and therefore I wouldn't want to put any effort to maintain friendships with individuals.
 

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To think of it I have had always dozens of NTs around me. In secondary school my class was filled up with Ns. I suspect two girls to be INTJs. And this IS rare breed. Same situation at uni - NT paradise. Again, at work I meet Ns left and right. This might be the case that I didn't need to really look for Ns because they are always there and therefore I wouldn't want to put any effort to maintain friendships with individuals.
Dang lucky you. Or perhaps, not so...?
 

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Friends... I don't have very many. In fact I have maybe 2 that I really enjoy and to be honest I do not spend a lot of time developing the relationship. I have the tendency to view people as pawns for my game of life. I use peoples strengths for my own personal gain and sometimes this comes off as rather... well - shallow, flakey, self-serving. I don't necessarily like this and have been making attempts at changing it. I would like to have a few more friends in my close circle who I can counsel with but it seems like most are few and far inbetween. My family on the other hand is my counsel. I share primarily with my sister who is an ISFJ. She is always challenging my P but we can relate on Fe. As a Sensor though it can be difficult listening to her constant rambling about social airheadedness "I LOVE that new show Girlfriends... it's sooo good!" "Did you read the new People Magazine!?" No... have you read the new Scientific American? There's a fantastic story on osmosis.

I have a huge issue with folks who have limited Ti. I find ENFP extremely fun because they have Te and all their feelings are as great as all my thinking (their Fi versus my Ti.) We don't get along in the long run but they make excellent muses to spark creativity. Their energy is contageous and that can be a good thing. Regardless when we relate it's like oil and water on deeper levels. They at times try to understand my POV and I just look at them crazy... when they talk about their all the spirtual wide eyeness it gives me pause but I cannot compute it all. It's their manipulations however that prevents me from ever getting involved with one. I find ExFPs EXTREMELY manipulative.

Regardless - NT types I get along with fine and we always connect on a deep level. Problem is there isn't many in the world and if you like running around in the world the S's are mostly who you are dealing with... Pawns.
 

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I think I can probably be a challenging friend, as I definitely drop off the face of the earth on a sporadic basis. I am becoming better with age though. I am actually very motivated to try to be more stable for other people, because I have experienced times in my life where I was not able to find many people to connect with and felt much too isolated. Now that I have found some friends who I really enjoy and don't get tired of or frustrated with, I want to hang on to them. I do have to discpline myself to do things like call regularly, remember birthdays, and ask about the details of their lives.
 

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@darkside you pretty much hit it on the head, I don't feel like I have had a real best friend since hs and it's bc we stopped calling each other. I have 3-5 good friends and 20-30 acquaintances. I'd much rather hang out with someone new (that i havent seen in a while then the same person). a lot of the people I know are too busy talking about trivialities for me to feel any connection. I want to talk about the falcon HTV-2 not about jersey shore or whatever. I find it really difficult finding people that want to talk about the same things as me but when i found one i usually keep them close until they can't handle me anymore....
 

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Well, my really good friends also say that I'm a really good friend. I've kept in touch with all my best friends over the years (they've all moved to faraway locations), and whenever we call or see each other, it's just like it's back to normal. However, finding these friends is the hard part. That is why most are acquaintances, because so so many are flaky that they are not worth the effort in the end. No fair-weather friends for me.
 

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for being basically an ENTP, I tend to actually care about everyone (well, unless I'm in a cynical phase), and I do have quite a few acquaintances who I can talk to pleasantly enough, but I may not connect/relate to them quite so much...
I do have best friends who I would do anything for! Once you've kind of passed the test so to speak (AKA, not judging me for any secret eccentric hobbies :3 and keeping secrets, etc) I might actually let you inside my head and tell you things you would never guess about me

or am I just unusual for ENTP?
 

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It depends on the relationship, and the person. An ENTP isn't going to be the 'worst friend material' for everyone. As far as I know, there are many types of older friends that I would consider to be a lot worse to be friends with than being friends with ENTPs.

Hell, I'm a pretty shitty friend, too. :)
 

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I've been running through few threads about that recently. From what have seen our kind is great when is present but that roughly ever happens on consist bases. I've met couple ENTPs recently and the key characteristic is that we have a lot of acquaintances but nothing really intense especially when it gets to the boring parts.

I personally see through people, things, patterns, relationships really quickly and get bored of them. People tell me all the time that they hope to stay in touch, or that they are afraid to lose me out of their side but I don't really care. When I'm into something new I almost never give a fuck about someone that I've been having the craziest party or most interesting talk with yesterday. In the last week I met a lot of people that thought I was dead, gone etc. for not answering my phone. This made me think that I don't really have anything that I would call friendship. It is more like having rotation of dozens of buddies old and new ones.

Even sticking with another ENTPs is prone to be dead in no time as either side will find something new or more interesting to do soon. I really don't see any other type that would have such a hard time to maintain any kind of relationship or situation as an ENTP and feel comfortable with it.

Give me hope and prove me wrong.
I feel like this often... like I just have a shit-ton of acquaintances. Even the few close friends I have bore me after a while; I'm always chasing something else I guess. Sometimes, when I think about it, this makes me sad. Then I stop being sad and be awesome instead.
 

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I have five close friends, and a lot of acquaintances. I make friends very easily, and keep them very easily (mostly because they call me, they insist we hang out, etc). I have known each of my close friends for over four years, and I don't think they'll let me get away anytime soon. These are friends I have grown up with (I met one of them in kindergarten), and most of them have always been there for me. I am a very bad friend, but they fail to notice it.
 

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Well I think we're great friends after we warm up to people but we never let our guard down. You have to penetrate the walls of isolationism that we set up but once you're within our walls it's hard for you to find your way out. All my good friends would describe me as loyal, sincere, honest, and caring but you have to earn that.
 
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My best friend from senior year is moving back to town he just called me today to tell me he's coming to my b-day on wednesday and he's moving down the street from me. So I'm really excited to have one of my best friends so close to me, we'll definitely have some good times, I just got make sure her current girlfriend doesn't fall for me like the last one, that created a real shitty situation....
 

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I'd like to believe that I am a good friend.

Granted my communications are terrible. I don't usually call people up "just to talk" unless I was bored or feeling lonely. I am inherently very selfish and absentminded, so the idea of calling friends up usually doesn't occur to me unless I have nothing better to do. I don't get excited over tiny things, to the point where I'd share it to my friends immediately (like many of my friends do). I do like to write letters and send postcards though. There's something about them that are so personal and sentimental that I appreciate. However, I'm probably short on sending care packages... not because I don't love my good friends, but because I don't use material things to show love.

I show love by paying attention to my friends and expressing both my objective and subjective sides. If I didn't like you, you would know right away because I would insta-smite or ignore you. I am very loyal and protective of my friends. Since I am independent, I wish that all my friends are like so too... and so I might be one tough-love happy bitch. But like I said before, tough love is better than.. neglect. I might be really silly and loving at one moment and then super blunt the next. Haha. My friends actually appreciate this aspect of my personality, if not the most. They like that I am honest and will not sugarcoat anything for them.

I can get along with just about anybody... but my actual friend-friends are the ones that I really share my innermost feelings to.
 

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I can be an amazing friend... you just have to pass the test and drink this special juice I made ;D


If someone has been deemed a friend and not an acquaintance they are subject to the many luxuries/perks entitled to my nearest and dearest:

-random gifts
-loyalty
-someone to make you laugh
-someone to listen
-minor money lending
-new perspectives (both my own, and others I can imagine would exist)
 
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