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Karen,
I know I'm smart. I can learn. However, I picked a mismatch for my career. Now I am studying to do something else that I like.
For whatever reason, my ESFP brain allows me to remember the plot and most of the lines of a movie. I can drag up and sing songs I learned in my childhood, and recite a commercial (I never mastered the McDonald's famous jingle, nor the jingle I loved the most which was selling Levi's Jeans!). (The jeans had rivets in the pockets and the diggers really dug'em). They should really bring that one back, it was cool.
So, your mind is wired as it is. I felt liberated when I discovered MBTI and that I was ESFP.
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<<Used to be able to do things like the entire Eddie Murphy's Delirious word for word.

Felt liberated once I accepted after reading more beyond stereotypes, if you just read stereotypes it's really depressing when you don't fit into that box.
 

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I took the high iq society test and scored 136. I dropped out of school in grade 10, then I came back later on with a new outlook on it. I hated school. I was top of my class in math through grade 11 and 12. I was famous for leaving studying to the last minute. Sometimes I wouldn't even study.. I wouldn't do math for fun. ;)
 

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Oh boy, I never used to pay attention to the Notifications section so I didn't realize people had started posting on this thread again after it dropped out of sight for a couple months. Sorry that I ignored people. :/

True to my current type confusion (ESFP is still one of two front runners), I've been torn between finishing my major in more of an S area (botany) or more of an idea area (psychology). Both aspects of life are important to me, though botanists are a little too introverted for me to fit right in. ;)

For ESFP's... Carol Tuttle's Energy Typing system describes me better than most. I'm Type 1 (all), followed by Type 4 (precise and reflective). Briefly:

Type 1: fun-loving, expressive; needs spontaneity, variety and freedom; unstructured; example: Jim Carrey

Type 2: likes connections; calming, flowing personality; methodical; example: Richard Gere

Type 3: dynamic; practical; goal oriented; take charge; example: Arnold Schwarzenegger

Type 4: more structured, precise; black and white thinking; reflective; are their own authority; example: Keanu Reeves
 

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Oh boy, I never used to pay attention to the Notifications section so I didn't realize people had started posting on this thread again after it dropped out of sight for a couple months. Sorry that I ignored people. :/

True to my current type confusion (ESFP is still one of two front runners), I've been torn between finishing my major in more of an S area (botany) or more of an idea area (psychology). Both aspects of life are important to me, though botanists are a little too introverted for me to fit right in. ;)

For ESFP's... Carol Tuttle's Energy Typing system describes me better than most. I'm Type 1 (all), followed by Type 4 (precise and reflective). Briefly:

Type 1: fun-loving, expressive; needs spontaneity, variety and freedom; unstructured; example: Jim Carrey

Type 2: likes connections; calming, flowing personality; methodical; example: Richard Gere

Type 3: dynamic; practical; goal oriented; take charge; example: Arnold Schwarzenegger

Type 4: more structured, precise; black and white thinking; reflective; are their own authority; example: Keanu Reeves
I've been told by people that I remind them of Jim Carrey. Type 1: fun-loving, expressive; needs spontaneity, variety and freedom; unstructured sounds a lot like me.
 

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IQ is a gift, like thousands of other gifts. So far the best way to sort out the ability to use logic is through testing. As is the case with many gifted people, actors and actresses are also tested and those who don't have enough of a gift aren't asked back. Most groups or societies of gifted people seem to be accepted, even though most to all have some kind of test in order to accept people as full-fledged members, but Mensa with its IQ test is frequently seen as being an arrogant way of handling a gift.

When I used to hang out with them the club was about fun, and anyone was invited to join in the activities as long as they enjoyed discussing ideas and didn't take themselves too seriously.

Edit: This isn't addressed to Kevinaswell, it just triggered my thoughts. ;)
 

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IQ is a gift, like thousands of other gifts. So far the best way to sort out the ability to use logic is through testing. As is the case with many gifted people, actors and actresses are also tested and those who don't have enough of a gift aren't asked back. Most groups or societies of gifted people seem to be accepted, even though most to all have some kind of test in order to accept people as full-fledged members, but Mensa with its IQ test is frequently seen as being an arrogant way of handling a gift.

When I used to hang out with them the club was about fun, and anyone was invited to join in the activities as long as they enjoyed discussing ideas and didn't take themselves too seriously.

Edit: This isn't addressed to Kevinaswell, it just triggered my thoughts. ;)
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One weird thing I noticed with regards to IQ was that people who had theirs believed in the system whilst those who were either hesitant/unsure/doubtful or scored poorly looked down on it. Plus confirmation bias is strong on this topic
 

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After being in Mensa for a couple years and hanging out with them multiple times a week, one night half the people who were the most active "members" admitted they'd never taken the test and didn't belong to Mensa. Those were the people I'd pegged as most intelligent. ;)
 

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After being in Mensa for a couple years and hanging out with them multiple times a week, one night half the people who were the most active "members" admitted they'd never taken the test and didn't belong to Mensa. Those were the people I'd pegged as most intelligent. ;)
perhaps do you see that same elitist vibe in the NT forums online which could be making you think that you are a mistype.
 

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As I recall I've only been on an NT forum a couple times, once when I started a thread about ENTPs and was surprised at how polite they were. That's the most thanks I've ever received on a thread. ;) I mainly stick to the Myers-Briggs and Cognitive Functions forums.

ETA: @Boolean11, I don't have time to read all subforums and it's been a constant complaint that people are mistyping themselves, so I don't go into the Keirsey section to learn more about specific types in order to help type myself.
 

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I just thought I'd add that I've finally sorted out that my type is ENFP. To back up the theme in this thread, I just posted the following on a thread about intelligence:

Depends what you're measuring. If judging entirely by IQ tests, people with the highest scores would be those who are good at logic, understand vocabulary well, are fast thinkers, and don't get flustered by tests, which can be any type. If judging overall intelligence, the ability to think logically and in depth, to be perceptive, and have an overall wisdom about life, which again can be any type.
 

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First of all, I just read through this entire thread and found myself wanting to thank just about every post. Secondly, I apologize to the people who are going to be getting notifications for a post they made years ago!

Even though you do identify yourself as an ENFP I found, like a lot of other people on this thread, that we have a lot in common, both in how we view the world and how the world views us. Particularly the strong Se and seriously seeming like a Thinker.

So, just for curiosity's sake, what made you realize that you were a ENFP?
 

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It did surprise me when this thread bounced back up -- good thing I'd started watching Notifications. :D

At times I've thought I might be T, since that's how I always test, and I've always seemed to use a T-type logic to make decisions. Fi is how I've always felt inside but it didn't make logical sense, so I kept bouncing back and forth between the two, trying to settle on my judging function. I had an insight a couple days ago that I use the most objective and biggest picture possible for making decisions, which can seem Ti but is actually Fi. Then I went back to MBTI descriptions and stopped going around in circles with Keirsey and cognitive functions, since neither were helping make my type clear. After reading dozens of MBTI books and articles over the last few years, I finally decided I'm ENFP since I fit the pattern and world view so well, other ExxP descriptions not so much overall.
 

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My sister was a intelligent ESFP still is.... but studying didn't mesh with her social life so she gave it all up to be social because she felt her friendships were more important then going to university quite sad really.. she was far too focused on the present then her own future whenever i tried to discuss her future prospects with her she'd get mad or accuse me of judging her which made no sense whatsoever...
 

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One weird thing I noticed with regards to IQ was that people who had theirs believed in the system whilst those who were either hesitant/unsure/doubtful or scored poorly looked down on it. Plus confirmation bias is strong on this topic
That's kinda funny, one of the reasons I don't believe in the system is because I've always scored pretty high.

Kinda says a lot about the character of the majority of those with "high IQ's"

No matter how you look at it though, it's widely accepted that intelligence is expressed in countless ways that aren't measured in standard IQ measurements. One of the reasons I find it bogus is because I got a high score for answering a set of questions that all were measuring a narrow scope of intellect. Why would anyone put faith in such a high compliment when the thing measuring it is so deterministic? Ego, is the only thing I can come up with. Pretty sure if people weren't so 'proud' of their scores, IQ tests would completely be irrelevant.
 

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That's kinda funny, one of the reasons I don't believe in the system is because I've always scored pretty high.

Kinda says a lot about the character of the majority of those with "high IQ's"

No matter how you look at it though, it's widely accepted that intelligence is expressed in countless ways that aren't measured in standard IQ measurements. One of the reasons I find it bogus is because I got a high score for answering a set of questions that all were measuring a narrow scope of intellect. Why would anyone put faith in such a high compliment when the thing measuring it is so deterministic? Ego, is the only thing I can come up with. Pretty sure if people weren't so 'proud' of their scores, IQ tests would completely be irrelevant.
You've never been the victim of a superiority complex? But interesting post, I guess generalizations are truly difficult to form.
 
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