Adding on to that...here is another famous quote from existentialism."There are no answers, only choices". It's from Solaris. I think it could be an existentialist's credo: you live, therefore you (have to) make choices. There's no escape. If you don't make your own choices, they will be made for you. It doesn't imply they would be worse than our own. But it's somehow always better (for me) to make my own. And yeah, there are no answers.
Children don't choose to be abused anymore than you chose to be born when, where and to whom you were, but these conditions are always in the past– absurdly enough, you are cast into existence from nothing and you may suddenly stop and wonder 'what am I?' and from that moment, or any given moment, you are entirely free to create yourself. Freedom exists in your ability to conceive of a future, and to base your actions just as much (or more so) in this future ideal as in past facts or present circumstances. Since the future exists at least as long as you exist in this malleable state, your existence is characterized by freedom.I understand the general principle of existentialism. But do you really always chose what you become ? For instance, do children always chose to be abused ? Anyway I find this vision of life very interesting, but due to my general skepticism I can't say I agree with it.
Great quote, that one has stuck with me for years now. It's so perfect."There are no answers, only choices". It's from Solaris.
That's kind of how I see it too. One can make up answers, but they're just fabricated. Depending on the type of existentialism, one must to some degree be open about the fact that one IS creating answers and that none are actually there to be found naturally.I think it could be an existentialist's credo: you live, therefore you (have to) make choices. There's no escape. If you don't make your own choices, they will be made for you. It doesn't imply they would be worse than our own. But it's somehow always better (for me) to make my own. And yeah, there are no answers.
ManWithoutHats said:Since the op is partly focused on how Existentialism fits how INTPs see the world, I thought it might be fun to list some existentialists by type. These may or may not be correct, so feel free to challenge them.
-Franz Kafka (this is a bit of a stretch; not so much an existentialist philosopher as that his literature was influential in the development of the philosophy)
Simone de Beauvoir
Fyodor Dostoevsky (not so much an existentialist philosopher, but his literature was highly influential)
So out of this group we don't fare so well.. whatever that's worth. I drew these from celebritytypes.com, which I consider to be wrong on more than one occasion.
No surprise here. The greatest writers are mostly feelers anyway, and philosophy desperately needs feelers who can see what thinkers fail to notice. For me Nietzsche is one of them.NipNip said:The INTP's closest neighbour-type
4) INFP - perhaps quite surprisingly
Yes, on condition that it is presented in the systematic way that thinking types prefer.justintroverted said:Does anyone here think it fits the way an INTP would see the world?