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Ive realized that this shit is long as fuk, so you can just skip through it if you want. I tend to ramble on. One thought and idea leads to a whole other box of new thoughts.

So I am 20 years old and commute to school, living at home. I figure the benefits outweigh the disadvantages. Free wash, stay at home mom (Maid services), bigger living space, quiet at night, etc....

Anyway, im not exactly...serious...but what ENTP is? My family members are dramatic, so ive developed this thing where i haven real trouble showing my serious side.

All my family members do are sit around and watch stupid TV shows. Dad goes to work, plays world of warcraft, mom cleans, cooks, bitches, and acts crazy, little brother eats and plays call of duty, sister lays on the couch texting and staring into space, and then im there. Usually sitting on the couch with my laptop or with some kind of device. Or im outside with a metal detector or some shit. Other times im on my computer looking up potential mates.

I act different i guess. Im funny in a geeky/inappropriate way. I dont really have too many friends and i have alot of time on my hands i guess. My homework comes in short large bursts. Most of the time i have no HW, besides reading. but reading is for the weak. If i have HW, its a big paper or project that takes like 5 hours to do.

the issue i have is that my parents dont respect me, but feel bad for me. When im not around, my mom talks shit about me, saying how crazy i am and how worried she is that ill have some kind of breakdown or some stupid shit. I have a crazy uncle and grandma, so she is worried, though she is the craziest person in my family. My dad doesnt respect anyone, and has a personality based completely on his defense mechanisms for control. He is very controlling, and looks down on people to make him feel better, including my mom.

Its just annoying because my mom hates it when i am alone with other people. I had to drive one of my sisters friends home a few weeks ago, and shes like 17 or 18, pretty cute, receptive to flirting i guess. I like talking and stuff, so everybody is fun to talk to. An every day fun challenge for me is to make people laugh. Its like a mini goal i have every time i talk to people. So my mom tells me "i dont want those girls lying and saying you did something to them!" which is ridiculous. But thats not what she means, she likes to lie to me. The real reason she doesnt like me...driving people home...Is because she thinks that i might do something sexual to these girls, uncontrollably out of a psychotic breakdown.

Another time a few years ago, i wrote something on a fuckin anxiety forum because i have anxiety issues....you can imagine why...And being younger, i didnt know that if you wrote something online, it could show up in searches. So i was talkin shit about my drunken uncle and my neglected cousin, and he somehow found out about it and called my dad about it. So im all like, okay im sorry...all that shit....

THE NEXT DAY...i come home from school, to my mom crying in the living room, and my dad just staring at me. My dad being dramatic just stared at me for like a minute without speaking even though i asked him what the fuck was the issue, and my mom started sobbing.

Turns out, they hacked into my profile on the site, reading all my threads and posts, everything i said. Most of it was just speculation on anxiety issues and personal anonymous shit about my anxious thoughts, a lot having to do with my parents fuking up....

A big problem is my moms intelligence level, which apparently isnt very high. I have ACTUAL evidence for this, based on a very recent experience, just last week. We were arguing about low happiness levels, because she is constantly bitching and talking shit. It was the day after my sisters b-day.

On that day, i took my sister to the mall where we met my dad and ate dinner together. During the meal, my dad told my sister about something negative my mom said about her, she confronted her, my mom blamed it on my dad, he of course denied all accusations of saying anything. His logic was that my sister is much "lower" than he is, so he can deny anything, even if he clearly said something....

...the previous day, my mom was freaking out about something to do with my cousin, and i said something that implied what my sister had been doing, drinking, and my dad was listening so i told him she had been drinking. My mom already knew, and i found out from my aunt because she asked me if i wanted to drink and said my sister was a sloppy drunk haha. So i brought that up because i just thought they should know..i didnt knew my mom knew. But my dad was cool with it haha, he didnt care. It was just some wine i guess.

...on the way home from the mall, my mom called my sister and then my dad called her, she was with me in the car, i was about to rape her because thats what i want to do when im alone in the car with someone else....hah..But then, my dad calls saying how he never said anything to her. She repeated the sentences he said, so I did, and he completely denied it, probably not wanting to face my mothers wrath, and also being a douche bag.....So my sister starts crying her eyes out in my car, unable to believe my dad denying the words we both heard him say. Her past 3 birthdays one of my parents have made her cry, and then i go into serious mode the one time out of the year to help her out.

...THIS IS THE GOOD PART...my moms fukin intelligence level. A few days later, my mom and I are arguing about her issue. Getting to the true cause of her frustration is like trying to find the fuckin arch of the covenant..... We start talking about my sister crying and she blames me for it........Apparently because i told my dad she drinks, and him being okay with it. My sister had a boyfriend who she would smoke tons of weed with, so it was nothing new....THIS was her reasoning:
I told my dad about the alcohol. If he didnt know, my mom wouldnt have told him that she drank wine with my aunt. Then because my dad knew because i told him, he says something jokingly to her at dinner. Because of this, my sister calls my mom asking her about it, she over reacts and bitches at my dad, and my dad calls my sister bitching at her because she confronted my mom about the shit my dad said.....my mom says over and over "Wll if you never told him she wouldn't hate us!!!"....i was fuckin...i dont even know...I just looked at her in amazement and said "Are you serious?????? How can you say that??" like i have never said before. Then i walked her through her reasoning, but she didnt understand this purely consequentialist claim she had made against me. FUCKIN RIDICULOUS!!!! How can a non-retarded or mentally disabled human being reason like this??????? holy shit.....thats what i mean when i say i get no respect.

She thinks im just some college kid who is going through some phase where i like to say things that dont make sense.......well why the fuck do you think they dont make sense??? you cant understand them for some reason!!! shit!!!

their solution...take me to a fukin mental hospital with criminals and shit. I was there for 8 hours. They told me i was the first teenager to ever come in who wasnt abusing drugs. My mom gave some spanish dude brought in by the cops her little dinner meal they handed out. Eventually i talked to a counselor for 5 minutes and the psychiatrist gave me some xanax.

Ya...point is, i get no respect,and my parents think im crazy. My siblings look up to me though. Im not crazy, just funny and creative. I know im not crazy because, well, im aware of the fact that im sane haha.
 

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Wow .. holy wall of text batman. It was like an instant facepalm, like I have a bruise from how hard that hit me. I'm way to messed up right now to go through that all .... but I'll get back to you when I'm in a right state of mind.
 
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Moonracer, you are intelligent, sane and ready to leave home. Just do it.Your family and you don't think along the same lines at all, and there is therefore no way you will smooth things out. A bit of distance, however, would make it easier all round.
 

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wow .. Holy wall of text batman. It was like an instant facepalm, like i have a bruise from how hard that hit me. I'm way to messed up right now to go through that all .... But i'll get back to you when i'm in a right state of mind.
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Moonracer, you are intelligent, sane and ready to leave home. Just do it.Your family and you don't think along the same lines at all, and there is therefore no way you will smooth things out. A bit of distance, however, would make it easier all round.
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Is there a shorter version somewhere, holy crap, i can't read all that.

Anyway from the title of this tread, i see where its going. My ENTP friend isn't always taken seriously either, but hey, that is no reason to disrespect. Your family doesn't understand you. I imagine your Ne getting all sorts of crazy looks, i know, my family can give me that look too. As much as i don't always agree with everything my family does, or says, they are the only family i have. Sometimes you just have to grin and bear their ignorance, turn the other cheek and move on. You know who you are, that's all that matters.
 
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Right now I'm at home. Going back to living on my own tomorrow, but I've only got two more months of it before I'm back living at home for two whole years while I'm in grad school. My mom does nothing but bitch about everything all the time. My dad makes stupid, racist jokes and tries to tell me what to do like I'm still a teenager. My sisters fight constantly and one of them everything out of her mouth is just dripping with attitude and you just want to punch her. I'm actually getting consolation from the fact that I'm going to be working 60-70 hours a week this summer.

I wish I had like a Big Bang Theory group of friends/roommates. Intelligent people who like what I do. That'd be perfect.
 
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Sounds to me like you need to move out.
I had a lot of family problems last year which climaxed in my dad declaring that he never wanted to see me and kicking me out.
It sucked at first, sure. But my life is so much less stressful now. I have more responsibilities, but that's kind of nice sometimes. It feels great to be self-sustaining. I do what I want when I want and I actually get to enjoy the things I do.
Maybe it's not an option for you right now but I think it's something you ought to strive for. Soon, by the looks of it.
 
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Right now I'm at home. Going back to living on my own tomorrow, but I've only got two more months of it before I'm back living at home for two whole years while I'm in grad school. My mom does nothing but bitch about everything all the time. My dad makes stupid, racist jokes and tries to tell me what to do like I'm still a teenager. My sisters fight constantly and one of them everything out of her mouth is just dripping with attitude and you just want to punch her. I'm actually getting consolation from the fact that I'm going to be working 60-70 hours a week this summer.

I wish I had like a Big Bang Theory group of friends/roommates. Intelligent people who like what I do. That'd be perfect.
Ive never seen that show, but ill take your word for it. I know what kinda group your talking about. That really would be perfect, ill check out the show too. I think i developed this ultra Ne sense of humor in high school, with the two other ENTPs i knew. One kid was just the funniest kid ever. Just like a group of 4 of us would sit in the library after lunch because the lunch room was usually filled with psycho people and uncomfortable seats. We would just sit there and talk about the stupidest shit haha. Looking through my sociology textbook, or just fuckin making obnoxious stories about the weirdest of motherfuckers in the school hhaa.....Or staring at other people in the room and just making jokes about how many dudes the librarian has slept with.......And most importantly, talking tons of shit about the funny neurotic behavior of some of those ISTJ teachers....i had a history teacher that seemed to have a mild version of tourettes, but not like mainstream tourettes. Everytime he wasnt moving,like during a movie shown in class, hed fuckin have these weird nonstop shoulder spasms haha.....He also taught my psychology class....pronouncing vagina as vergina, or mature ad MAAHHH TOOOaur lol...funny shit....good times...I really havent met any ENTP type people in college so far......But this one hardcore ISTJ kid that pisses me off haha...Always saying shit, in the social science feild, about things like welfare and social policies and being like, really rude about them.....hhah i love that class, he pisses so many of the girls in my class off....the girls...these girls would be like an INFJ or something like that, and are also mothers haha.....crazy class...and im sitting there talking about how America should become a more socialist nation haha......

Did i really just write that much in that small amount of time???i just took some xanax...shit lets you reach your true self, taking away all anxiety so you can just have a silent mind, letting words fly out of your tongue effortlessly...Around people, im alone now, if i took some xanax or whatever, i am like, constantly letting out improvisatory mad rhymes, non stop
 

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Move.

Living in an environment with people who won't take responsibility for their own words and actions will not have a positive effect on anyone. Maid services aren't enough to make up for that. Family are often the ones who love us the most, and treat us the worst.

Also text formatting, or smaller paragraphs or something, maybe even some smilies to break it up, that was hard!

Ideally your relationship with your family will improve from some distance and independence. Live closer to school, make some friends and get a social life outside of your family.

But mostly the text formatting.
 
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King_Moonracer,

My dad is an ENTP. He is also fixated too much on what others opinion about him and his opinions on others. The truth is that none of what you think about them is really important. Yes they are important people. But their behavior are not. Ask yourself this: What do you really want to do with them without focusing on their behavior? And do what you want with them in that direction. Leaving them alone wont change them. It will change you. It will change you in the direction I just described above.

You need to focus on right direction.
 

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I actually get kind of excited when I see that @King_Moonracer has made a new post or thread. I click it with the eager anticipation of watching a train wreck in slow motion. It adds a bit of spice to otherwise mundane ENTP mutual masturbation.

To the King: I think you should enlist in the Marines. I guarantee all your problems will be solved. Once the USMC owns your ass, you won't ever have to worry about your retard parents ever again. Marines get pussy all the time too. Like you walk around with some MARPAT on and girls will literally try to have sex with you right in the middle of the street. HOT girls too. Trust me. I saw like one guy almost get raped by SIX really hot strippers just for having a USMC tattoo. And you get paid to shoot guns. Oorah!
 

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I actually get kind of excited when I see that @King_Moonracer has made a new post or thread. I click it with the eager anticipation of watching a train wreck in slow motion. It adds a bit of spice to otherwise mundane ENTP mutual masturbation.

To the King: I think you should enlist in the Marines. I guarantee all your problems will be solved. Once the USMC owns your ass, you won't ever have to worry about your retard parents ever again. Marines get pussy all the time too. Like you walk around with some MARPAT on and girls will literally try to have sex with you right in the middle of the street. HOT girls too. Trust me. I saw like one guy almost get raped by SIX really hot strippers just for having a USMC tattoo. And you get paid to shoot guns. Oorah!
hahah thats a great idea. I doubt theyd let me in though, im too crazy hahahhaa....But ya, am i like, the only ENTP here that is really fukin neurotic? .....shit gives me character!
 

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@SpilledMilk, @King_Moonracer

I just got done with my 4 years in the Corps, and I'll admit it was One hell of an experience, but if you ever plan on joining just beware of a few things. The biggest thing is, they own you lol, as an ENTP that seems ridiculous but they really own you. You can play games with them as I did but go to far and court martial is likely, thankfully after all the games I played with them I always talked my way out of everything and ended with my honorable discharge. It will develop you into a better you, I truly believe that, and you meet all different kinds of people and see bunch of new Places, Tokyo being my favorite. "Pussy" is inevitable as a Marine, even the ugly Marines get laid on a weekly basis, being a Marine will guarantee that you get some wet, at least weekly. 4 years was enough time for me, wouldn't do more than that, but it's definitely not for everyone. If you can learn how to play games safely under their control
And structure, bending their rules to your advantage then you'll probably enjoy it like I once did.
 
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