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Reposting in the right section. Really appreciate any input.:kitteh: :kitteh::kitteh:


1. How do you work? Why do people go to work? Are there any parameters that determine whether you can do work or not? What are they?

1a. Uh I just work, this is a very general question. Oh on second try, I guess ok, I pay attention to doing things correctly, thoroughly enough and with a good result to ensure it's all well done and then I can feel a sense of achievement which I do love lol and also aim to be better than the competition. I also like to do many things fast, make a challenge out of them that way. Fast yet precise, error-free, well-done. Or just as fast as possible, if precision is not a requirement lol. I have a type A personality, too...
1b. They go to earn a living, and/or for a sense of purpose, to help others, etc...
1c. Yes
1d. Am I qualified meeting the official requirements if any, do I have enough experience or do I have enough time to learn the task.

2. How do you determine the quality of work? How do you determine the quality of a purchase? Do you pay any attention to it?

2a. I just look and see it when possible. Beyond that if needed, I do a detailed evaluation according to objective criteria.
2b. Same as 2a.
2c. Yes, of course.

3. There is a professional next to you. How do you know they are a professional? How do you evaluate their skill?

3a. They behave, act and make decisions and have expertise like a professional for that type of job/profession. I would have to be aware what that looks like, of course.
3b. I evaluate based on the above, based on their existing and proven qualifications and based on the results they can show.

4. If you struggle to do something, how do you fix that? Do you know if your performance is better or worse than others?

4a. I just find a way to fix it, I'm pretty resourceful when needed/want to fix the issue. I'm persistent, don't ever give up on something I want.
4b. Yep, usually pretty easy to see. Or there can be objective tests and criteria to evaluate performance and can check the test results or the results based on the criteria.

5. How do you measure the success of a job? What standard do you use? Do you pay attention to it? When should you deviate from this standard?

5a. See if it achieved the goal.
5b. Whatever standard is relevant.
5c. Yes
5d. If I picked the standard myself then it's relevant lol, but I'll make changes if it makes more logical sense that way. If I use an imposed standard, I will make changes if needed and if I'm allowed to or can get away with it.

This section is ok I guess.


1. What is a whole? Can you identify its parts? Are the parts equivalent to the whole?

1a. A whole has everything that's supposed to belong to it. I think of a holistic whole here though it can also be made up of discretely defined parts.
1b. Yeah the parts can be identified if needed.
1c. No, of course not.

2. What does "logical" mean? What is your understanding? Do you think that it correlates with the common view? How do you know you are being logical?

2a. It means things made sense.
2b. Well this is my understanding.
2c. I think so.
2d. I just know...

3. What is hierarchy? Give examples of hierarchies. Do you need to follow it? Why or why not? Explain how hierarchy is used in a system you are familiar with.

3a. Things or people ranked based on importance or position (e.g. position of power).
3b. Hierarchy in management, in the military.
3c. Well if I need to, yeah.
3d. See above answer. If I decided I need to or I'm required to, if there are consequences of not following it.
3e. If I have a system where I put some rules as the most important, I make sure they do in practice control or if applicable even override the other rules. I do this with many things, not just with rules, e.g. I do it with my material interests even. At the workplace I just pay attention to who has what importance in their position and say, I'll report to the right person or follow the orders from the right person, etc.

4. What is classification? How does classification work? Why is it needed and where is it applied? Give examples.

4a. (These questions are some mental effort BTW.) You put things in different categories based on criteria and preferably also have these categories arranged.
4b. See above answer.
4c. It's needed to organise things, can be done for many purposes. It's applied in many places, I can't answer such a general question.
4d. Taxonomy in biology is so obvious an example lol. But when you put the knives in a different compartment than the spoons in a drawer in your kitchen, you do classification then too.

5. Are your ideas consistent? How do you know they are consistent? How do you spot inconsistency in others' ideas?

5a. They better be.
5b. I check with reasoning, do things deduce correctly, are there any contradictions, did I introduce a new idea without rechecking the system...
5c. Same as above answer.

This section required some mental effort. Talking in a very overall sense but it felt ok. The hierarchy questions were sometimes more concrete than just "overall"


1. Can you press people? What methods do you use? How does it happen?

1a. Yes
1b. I ask them nicely, I ask them firmly, I ask later again/remind them, I insist, I coerce them into it (ok, just sometimes), I make bad consequences clear with or without a threat (threat just sometimes), I negotiate, I offer something in return, I wait and see a better opportunity, I ask someone else/other people or get official authority to contribute to convincing or to making the other person/people do the thing, I can just rely on general cooperation... but I also easily get pushy in some situations. Not a complete list.
1c. I don't understand this question. It just happens, I do whatever, they do whatever in response, I may need to respond again to that, and so on.

2. How do you get what you want? What do you do if you have to work to get what you want?

2a. I see what steps I need to do to get what I want, then I do them. Ok, sometimes I try to maneuver a bit too like in some cases in the above answers. I like to put in the energy and effort and sometimes push more than what I need to lol. In other cases I am more patient and calm and gradual in getting to where I want.
2b. I put in the effort.

3. How do you deal with opposition? What methods do you use to defend your interests?

3a. I do whatever's needed. I'm not gonna list "methods" again... But I basically just enter into the interaction and deal with it in whatever way I can. Or if it's me starting something and I meet opposition, again I will just deal with it (maybe more initial annoyance and frustration in this case). Opposition can really rev me up to various degrees (depending), physically and mentally and my focus overall gets even more intense than usual and I actually don't mind all of that lol. So I would say I deal with it quite ok.
3b. Uh oh, do I list "methods" once more. Ok, an important one besides direct action or negotiation though is that it can be good to withhold information. Just overall paying attention to where the attack is coming from or whatever other circumstance affecting my interests.

4. When do you think it's ok to occupy someone's space? Do you recognize it?

4a. If they allow it, they no longer need it, it's rare that I need exactly that space and that it would be socially acceptable to just take it without asking or without cooperation, if it's a stranger in some situations or if you are still a kid, then maybe lol - or when you have official authority ofc.
Oh okay, I sometimes actually do do it in other situations too, so for example when I get pushy in a competition, this can be necessary (as long as rules allow, this really depends). I will admit in such competitions/racing, I do like it when the rules allow it or I can get away with it lolol.
4b. Yeah of course... Esp. if someone got into my flat uninvited?!? But yeah, sure any kind of space related issue I notice, sit too close, get in front of me in the queue, take or just move my things, etc... big no no.

5. Do others think you are a strong-willed person? Do you think you have a strong will?

5a. Yes
5b. Yes

With this section, I felt like going wide-eyed sometimes at the wording of the questions. Occupy someone's space...


1. How do you satisfy your physical senses? What examples can you give? What physical experiences are you drawn to?

1a. Wahahhaha these complexified questions again. I look around, I feel content, hey. As simple as that. Especially if I got many nice cool things around me.
1b. When I dress up so nice (I get called extravagant if I really let myself get into this lol) and look in the mirror. Lol. Look around in my flat, again, looking at the nice and actually cool furniture is satisfying to my eyes. Actually, real estate in general when it's obviously worth a lot. If I go to a nice and really expensive restaurant, where besides the appearances, the food is so special and great too. (Though nice simple food is also good when I'm hungry.) Etc... Things like that. Strong good aesthetics in general. And space, stimulating arrangements of space are fun too. And then my collections of cool, valuable things also. Hm really I could go on and on.
1c. See above answer. Also, things like going fast, racing (in sports, in a car, etc), climbing some hard rock, I'd like to try some way of flying too (I mean other than in a commercial airplane) one day maybe. Going to the hills to run hard or long there or to the beach just to enjoy myself and maybe find cool seashells (I still collect those lol). And of course sex in various places. hey.

2. How do you find harmony with your environment? How do you build a harmonious environment? What happens if this harmony is disturbed?

2a. When I feel content then it's all good.
2b. I make sure the aesthetics fit together.
2c. I fix it.

3. What does comfort mean to you? How do you create it?

3a. Being relaxed, no rush to get whatever done right now and I know I have enough time before I have to do whatever else that needs to be done on time.
3b. When I have time to rest, I relax, do something easy enjoyable, read or lie down.

4. How do you express yourself in your hobbies? How do you engage yourself with those things?

4a. I don't. Easy as that.
4b. I don't.

5. Tell us how you'd design any room, house or an office. Do you do it yourself, or trust someone else to do it? Why?

5a. I look at what fits in the space. I look at what aesthetics would fit together, what colours and style I want for the setup. What price range will fit. I need to make sure it's also practical enough. I will look up options online, in shops, look at designer ideas, even if it is not standard but looks cool or useful, etc.
5b. I can do it myself fine. If it is my own place, I definitely want to do it myself.
5c. Because for my own place I want to decide things myself. It matters to me how things in my own place look.

This section had some weird questions again, question 1a and then the whole question 2. Question 4 just pissed me off. I liked question 1 after getting over the weirdness and liked question 5 too.


1. Is it acceptable to express emotions in public? Give examples of inappropriate expression of emotions.

1a. Acceptable for some emotions, not for some others. It is acceptable to smile politely, sometimes acceptable to laugh depending on some situations (e.g. in official ones not acceptable to laugh loudly or in general be loud), it is not acceptable to express rage or tantrums.
1b. Oh see above answer.

2. How do you express your emotions? Can you tell how your expressions affect others in a positive or negative way?

2a. I just do.
2b. Anger, rage and tantrums usually affect others in a negative way. Even a bit of snapping or a flash of irritation will often affect some people strongly negatively. Smiling usually affects others in a positive way. Laughing is usually positive too except if laughing at a thing that can offend or even hurt others i.e. ridiculing them is not okay or laughing as an expression of schadenfreude (I do not ever laugh in such bad ways - out of principle). And so on.

3. Are you able to change your demeanor in order to interact with your environment in a more or less suitable way? How do you determine what is suitable?

3a. Yeah, social monitoring of yourself is important.
3b. The social situation determines what behaviour fits there. If I'm not sure, I'll just act reserved. Possibly still keep smiling.

4. In what situations do you feel others' feelings? Can you give examples of when you wanted to improve the mood of others?

4a. I can automatically feel a bit of the expressions or (again automatically) mirror what others express. I'm better at mirroring than strongly feeling it for myself. I could also have a little mirroring inside myself at low intensity and that's it usually. I often don't at all feel or mirror this stuff though, just in the situations where I go with it. For people I care about, I will end up mirroring more strongly, sometimes the difference is really a lot in strength of mirroring, both externally and internally. With some people it can be to the point of being draining though I can keep it up alright and willing to.
4b. Yeah, my mom was silently crying a couple of times (she doesn't often do this) and I wanted her to feel better.

5. How do others' emotions affect you? How does your internal emotional state correlate or contrast with what you express?

5a. See my answer to 4a. Also if I care about someone personally, I get very affected and even upset if they have a problem, I will want to solve it immediately.
5b. It sometimes correlates, sometimes does not. For contrasting ones: I don't want to show e.g. sadness often. Pretty rarely actually. If I just no longer care to hide it. Then if I feel like laughing but I don't feel it strongly enough, I will just not be able to express it/don't try to. If I feel nice and friendly about the situation and the person, I will be smiling to them - this correlates.

This section was ok


1. How can you tell how much emotional space there is between yourself and others? How can you affect this space?

1a. A ...what? Ok, when someone tries to pretend they are close to me but they actually aren't consistently close... go to hell. I guess actually easy to tell, if they don't reciprocate my stuff.
1b. What... Ok, again on second try, well, I don't really, I just hope it will end up good. I will try to do actions towards this goal. But I don't even think about it much.

2. How do you determine how much you like or dislike someone else? How does this affect your relationships?

2a. I feel it I guess.
2b. If I dislike them, I won't try to spend time with them.

3. How do you move from a distant relationship to a close one? What are the distinguishing characteristics of a close relationship?

3a. If the other person is up for it, I will gradually do things that are more personal and special.
3b. Prerequisites are things like enough compatibility in various aspects (intellectual, emotional, etc) and certain shared beliefs/views. Besides the feelings of closeness, there is trust, actual understanding and acceptance of the other person. So you share things you don't share with others, emotional things included. You have a lot of shared experiences too. Shared goals for the closest relationships. You additionally have commitment and keep it.

4. How do you know that you are a moral person? Where do you draw your morality from? Do you believe others should share your beliefs on what's moral? Why?

4a. If I do not act morally worse than other people.
4b. Rules of behaviour, sense of fairness. A bit of gut instinct and feelings of what's wrong and what's right.
4c. People I care about must absolutely share the important beliefs on this, yes. Other less core beliefs are whatever. And other, not close people are again whatever, I won't like it if they have very different beliefs, but it's their own business for the most part.
4d. Because without shared beliefs on this, there will be serious problems in the relationship.

5. Someone you care about is acting distant to you. How do you know when this attitude is a reflection of your relationship?

5. In my experience, it's always a reflection of the relationship. Because I only notice or see it as actual distance when it's major enough.

This section made me think, felt like a nice attempt at summarising things.


1. How can you tell someone has the potential to be a successful person? What qualities make a successful person and why?

1a. Good achievements. Oh on second thought, a good, ambitious vision (and of course strong, unwavering belief in it).
1b. Intelligence of some kind, resourcefulness, not giving up.

2. Where would you start when looking for a new hobby? How do you find new opportunities and how do you choose which would be best?

2a. I don't look for new hobbies.
2b. I research details on things if I need to. I ask people with experience. Sometimes a new good opportunity can just jump out at me but that's not very often and I do not usually go with it unless it's either in line with my task and goal or it is a very good rare opportunity (say, for a lot of money). I decide based on what makes the most logical sense for the goal.

3. How do you interpret the following statement: "Ideas don't need to be feasible in order to be worthwhile." Do you agree or disagree, and why?

3a. Not implementable ideas can still spark other ideas or whatever.
3b. I don't find that worthwhile for myself but in general sometimes it can lead to stuff like new discoveries and then new understanding in science.

4. Describe your thought process when relating the following ideas: swimming, chicken, sciences. Do you think that others would draw the same or different connections?

4a. I didn't relate them, I just linearly read the words one after the other and understood/saw their meaning separate from each other, because they are very different things. Alright, alright, after I finished the questionnaire, I was willing to give this one another try. So I see a chicken swimming, okay, so far not so weird, now how the hell do I add "sciences" into this, okay, maybe the chicken is thinking of sciences. Okay, try more realistic, with at least a semblance of realism: someone standing on the lake shore watching the swimming chicken is thinking of sciences trying to figure something about the fact the chicken is swimming. Phew. (The shore and the lake were just somehow part of the image I had.)
4b. Probably different ones.

5. How would you summarize the qualities that are essential to who you are? What kind of potential in you has yet to be actualized and why?

5a. Uh my determination is pretty essential. My intelligence with resourcefulness... my goals focus.
5b. Uh-oh, gotta be some really big potential. I hope lol.

This section: Hm... gotta get creative?? Went over my head tho'. So it was like I managed to push out one main answer with some effort.


1. How do people change? Can you describe how various events change people? Can others see those changes?

1a. Their worldviews get refined, they change in emotional preferences, certain strong experiences will affect people deeply, etc I don't know...
1b. Trauma affects people bad... Cathartic good experiences affect them good...
1c. Sometimes easily, sometimes not so directly.

2. How do you feel and experience time? Can time be wasted? How?

2a. I feel x time passed and I tend to be pretty spot on with that. From the range of a few seconds to the range of a few years. Or y time is left and just about enough left to act. I guess just a gut sense. I think (big GUESS) it's aggregated from concrete actions to be taken or that have been taken for the time period.
2b. Yeah.
2c. If you do not spend it with what you wanted to do or procrastinate on achieving goals etc.

3. Is there anything that cannot be described with words? What is it? If so, how can we understand what it is if language does not work?

3a. Sure, when people don't fully understand something yet. Or oh, more "mystical things" I guess.
3b. If it cannot be described with words, you can't really answer this question writing lines in this questionnaire...
3c. Sometimes you can by way of emotional communication, instincts, whatever... telepathy :) lol. A friend of mine really wanted to believe in telepathy in a romantic relationship. I sometimes experienced it even without it being romantic... (don't take this in the esoteric sense please, it really did happen in a way)

4. How do you anticipate events unfolding? How can you observe such unfoldments in your environment?

4a. I don't...
4b. Hmm in retrospect sometimes. :eek:

5. In what situations is timing important? How do you know the time is right to act? How do you feel about waiting for the right moment?

5a. Oh in many situations. I can't give specifics on when i.e. what it depends on. But say in politics it tends to be very important lol. Then even in things like races, important to time when you move to get ahead. Etc...
5b. Uh, gut instinct. When I feel there is just barely about enough time left so I must act now. Or more expressible, like when uhm, action is ready to be taken because say it's socially acceptable after enough waiting, or when something else happens based on which I need to take my own action. In some situations it's more like, I guess, when emotionally it is all together and ready. When inside your mind things just got put together. For example, I can have mental blocks when I need to think of something or analyse deep for a decision. So I just wait and I then feel I'm ready to come to the decision.
5c. Sometimes that's soothing. That I know oh I can wait until it's all put together, or until I'm to do the right action, see above answer.

This section was... esoteric lol. Or I tried to make it like that lool

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Discussion Starter #2
(To any readers) Hey you don't need to read the whole thing lol. Just whatever you think could make sense for typing.

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Hi tower,

Thought I would give this a looksie, hope thats okay.

I think probably Se and Ni valuing over Ne and Si valuing.

I would also say Te and Fi valuing over Ti and Fe valuing.

So gamma quadra and I would guess LIE.
More confident answers in NT matters compared to SF matters, with an appreciation for Fi elements "This section made me think, felt like a nice attempt at summarising things." and maybe a little over eagerness in Se elements "I will admit in such competitions/racing, I do like it when the rules allow it or I can get away with it lolol."
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