Thank you sir, that's a fairly comprehensive list. I was worried that my typo would prevent me from getting any responses.Especially coming from an ENTP, here are the main things I would say it would be helpful for you to know about ISFJs:
1. We may come across as very closed-minded to you, but if you can show us concrete proof that a new idea definitely works in a practical manner, we will very likely adopt it. We often won't try something just because it "sounds good", which is basically the opposite of what your Ne tells you (since we have inferior Ne).
2. If we ever lash out at you in any way, it's likely because our feelings have been hurt in some way, and it may very likely be because of something you did/said that you would have never imagined could have been hurtful. Just like it's natural for you to say whatever funny thing pops into your mind, it's natural for us to take things seriously and be affected by it. We're not trying to make things difficult for you, just like you're not trying to make things difficult for us. But most likely, if we appear to be being very sensitive or negative towards you, it's probably because of a miscommunication that should be cleared up.
3. We are very slow to change. Be patient with us. Don't try to push us into things...that will more than likely just make us push against you. We are open to change, it just takes a while.
4. Our feelings and getting along with others is very important to us. If you value them and don't write them off as "irrational" or "illogical" (even though in some cases they may be), you'll most likely understand us better and have an easier time co-existing with us.
I've talked about ENTPs in a number of threads, but I don't remember exactly which ones and where they are. I list a few threads in my post # 5 in this thread that talk about ENTPs some:Thank you sir, that's a fairly comprehensive list. I was worried that my typo would prevent me from getting any responses.
What are your perceptions of ENTPs?
I can't really say anything too detailed without referring to particular types. But here's what I believe about all types.Poetic_Anarchy said:How do you see other types?
Hmmm....it's a bit of a long story. But I assure you, my feeler side is quite strong and prevalent. If you look at some of my responses in the first two threads I mentioned in my last post, I think you'll see it a bit more.
Yeah, so much of it depends on the individual person, the details of the situation, and exactly what the issues are. Some people are just more emotional than others, and some people are irrational no matter what anyone else does (and this extends to thinkers, as well). If someone is hurt just because of disagreement and nothing else, then there's not a whole lot you can do until they can work through their sensitivity.I'm trying to gain understanding of other types as well. However, no matter how well I understand a feeler thinks, they sometimes still feel attacked by me when I disagree with them. Or I perceive them as defensive, because their idea of controlled defensive anger is my idea of freaking out.
I always enjoy it when people of some types work to understand people of other types. I think that kind of understanding helps people to get along better and also learn from each other, since we all have different strengths.Poetic_Anarchy said:And thank you for spending so much time explaining things to me and helping me. I'm glad I've been able to have positive interactions here with non-thinkers such as yourself.
I'll be sure to remember this. I often have people react like I said I wanted to kill their family, when all I did was disagree with them on some issue I barely care about.However, I think often these types of discussions are very based upon how things are worded as well. I think what has always helped me is when I feel like I can trust someone, and that trust is gained by me knowing that they respect and value me as a person, even if they don't agree with me. I think when I personally get most defensive is when I feel like the person is making me feel stupid for having a particular belief.
I also think that at least for ISFJs (and maybe other feelers) we create a bond with our opinions and beliefs. So sometimes I think when a thinker (particularly an NT) attacks a position or a belief with malice or disdain, then that is perceived as an attack on the person, because of that attachment