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Hello lovely people,

Does anyone on this forum believe in God? I am curious.

I'll start. I found God very recently and this is very new to me. I have never met Him, or "found" Him before in my life, and I did a few days ago in a moment of temporary internal chaos. Our family has a Catholic background, but we have not been going to church for the past six years and I was almost considering myself to be an atheist. But for some reason, I feel like He was in me and with me my whole life. I am so grateful that I've finally found Him. My God is all-loving, comforting, and knows everything about me. He calms me down when I'm being carried away by dark assumptions or misleading thoughts, and He always has His arm around me. Although this is very personal, I want to share it here...

I wasn't sure how to call Him when I first knew about Him--I thought it was just "my Superior Self" or even my wise intuition, but after some time seeing Him, hearing Him, and getting to know Him, I know that I am always with God. And I love Him very much.

Does anyone else have a God? And is this common for an INTP to experience?
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I feel like He was in me and with me my whole life. I am so grateful that I've finally found Him. My God is all-loving, comforting, and knows everything about me. He calms me down when I'm being carried away by dark assumptions or misleading thoughts, and He always has His arm around me. --I thought it was just "my Superior Self" or even my wise intuition, after some time seeing Him, hearing Him, and getting to know Him, I know that I am always with God. And I love Him very much.
God bless you - you have clearly expressed the way I feel about God exactly, though I sometimes have to be reminded.:blushed: I do believe He has saved my life on a few occasions.

I believe from what I have read, that being INTP and Christian is unusual as we prefer to deal in concepts. It seems it is not particularly unusual for an INTP to be "spiritual" - searching for some meaning for their existence. For me, God is the answer, perhaps the only solid thing within my thoughts at times.
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I consider myself to be an agnostic atheist, although I also consider myself to be a secular humanist.

I was born to a Catholic father and Anglican mother, and like my four siblings was baptised as an Anglican. We were never religious when we were growing up - my dad, a former choirboy when he was a kid, found Catholicism to be too rigid, and my mother's family weren't religious.

Around the age of 15 or 16 I began to look into religions. I was firstly mainly interested in Eastern religions and philosophies such as Buddhism and Taoism, and I also looked at Pagan religions as well. At this point I had a wavering belief in god, and I suppose you could call my religious beliefs from my early teens to my late teens as agnostic theist. I then began looking at other more Western religions such as Baha'ism and Unitarian Universalism, but I'm still not convinced that any religion is right for me, personally.

I think if I was to ever become religious, the religion would have to be quite open, liberal, approve of science, not be prejudiced against women or homosexuals. I quite like the idea of Baha'ism, but it's focus on supporting world governments and slight homophobia put me off.

My personal idea of god is that if he/she/they exist, then no religion is either right or wrong and that that deity or deities does not care about beliefs, but actions.
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I remember wanting to be a god when I was a child. My backup plan was equally realistic; king.

I'm 100% atheist, but as long as you're happy with your god(s), it's all good.
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Hey there! I'm an ESTP, but thought I'd jump in :) I'm pretty new to the forum and I've been thinking/wondering about religion and types for some time now.

It's interesting... I imagine feelers and probably N's are more drawn to the spiritual. I'm an S & T to the core - always think in a very concrete fashion/like to see data and the facts.... and make moves with my brain, not my heart. However, I'm a Christian and while I don't get caught up in the emotional ups and downs that many do when they seek a higher power, I have a beautiful relationship with my creator. While being a follower of Christ certainly requires faith, I have experienced His love and power so deeply and first hand that I know He exists and has a plan for my life.

I came to know the Lord at a young age (18 yrs ago)... and while encouraged to seek faith by my parents, I've personally known His love and presence since before I even accepted Him into my life. I can imagine myself without the peace and discernment He's given me... and it doesn't seem like a pretty picture rollin through my 20's. While I affiliate with a church to learn, be encouraged, and hang with others who also want to know God, I more importantly have an active relationship with the most perfect, unconditional love one can imagine.

Like I said, I'm far from a feeler.... but I hold back tears sharing this experience - just got caught off-guard a little. I guess when I actually articulate these thoughts, I'm amazed at the grace that's been given me freely. Knowing that people may read this who don't know Christ - one part of me wants to jump out of my skin and try to explain the joy that runs through my veins... and the other part of me is just so sorry to see people who've been burned or turned off by religion and secondary principles. Christ's representation has been so skewed and Jesus' love is all it's ever been about..... people may interpret much of His words differently, but at the end of the day - He says "I stand at the door and knock. If any man hears my voice and opens the door, I will come to him." I really believe if anyone accepts that adventure and opens the Bible as the love letter that it is, they will surely find truth.

Anyway, I'm sure as a fellow thinker and fan of logic - I may be less likely to take this path, which is why I share. I know it's hard to listen to super feelers talk about their faith experiences sometimes :) I certainly don't respond to it.

for some reason, I feel like He was in me and with me my whole life. I am so grateful that I've finally found Him. My God is all-loving, comforting, and knows everything about me. He calms me down when I'm being carried away by dark assumptions or misleading thoughts, and He always has His arm around me.
Thanks for sharing... so great to hear how He's working in you. That's pretty amazing you found the Lord on your own.... and just had that present knowledge/feeling that you're made to be in union with Him :))
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Have you moved recently? Gotten a new job or something? Who knows.

I don't believe in your God, though. But I do believe in your experience.
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I have always thought of myself as my own god.
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I've jumped around depending on my current mood or life state. My position on God is almost completely self-contradictory. I'll find myself both praying to him and doubting his existence at the same time. The only belief that really stays constant is that God wants you to do things for yourself. Prayer is for offering thanks and asking for guidance, not getting an A on your bio exam or winning the Super Bowl.
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No I do not. I never really did either, when I was little I kind of figured out Santa wasn't real at like 5-6. My mom never really was very religious and I just always kind of was an atheist since I can remember. Weird.
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Hello lovely people,

Does anyone on this forum believe in God? I am curious.

I'll start. I found God very recently and this is very new to me. I have never met Him, or "found" Him before in my life, and I did a few days ago in a moment of temporary internal chaos. Our family has a Catholic background, but we have not been going to church for the past six years and I was almost considering myself to be an atheist. But for some reason, I feel like He was in me and with me my whole life. I am so grateful that I've finally found Him. My God is all-loving, comforting, and knows everything about me. He calms me down when I'm being carried away by dark assumptions or misleading thoughts, and He always has His arm around me. Although this is very personal, I want to share it here...

I wasn't sure how to call Him when I first knew about Him--I thought it was just "my Superior Self" or even my wise intuition, but after some time seeing Him, hearing Him, and getting to know Him, I know that I am always with God. And I love Him very much.

Does anyone else have a God? And is this common for an INTP to experience?
I have had similar experiences. It also seems like my life is somehow....guided? I'm sure others will dismiss it as coincidence
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Only an INTP would be so religiously undecided that s/he calls him/herself "agnostic atheist".

Is that like "I believe that there is no god, but I believe that knowledge about the existence of god is impossible, thus rendering every further debate about the existence or non-existence of said god pointless"?
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Only an INTP would be so religiously undecided that s/he calls him/herself "agnostic atheist".

Is that like "I believe that there is no god, but I believe that knowledge about the existence of god is impossible, thus rendering every further debate about the existence or non-existence of said god pointless"?
Agnostic atheism, also called atheistic agnosticism, encompasses atheism and agnosticism.[1] Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not have belief in the existence of any deity, and agnostic because they do not claim to know that a deity does not exist.[1][2] The agnostic atheist may be contrasted with the agnostic theist, who does believe that one or more deities exist but does not claim to have knowledge of such.[1]
Agnostic atheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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This topic is so interesting, I tried to write a bit of an essay about it! :laughing: Here it is:

For me, there is no rational argument for or against the validity of any religion, though I sympathise more with the values of some than others.
Since I tend to think very rationally, I can only think in terms of what I know for sure. I know for sure that humans exist, that humans will have to co-exist for the duration of their life, that there is a definite beginning and end. I also think it is desirable to have everyone exist happily. From the fact that we exist and the urge to live together happily, which I am inclined to think is part of human nature (this is, indeed, a belief, since I cannot prove it), I sympathise with humanism: Loving my fellow human beings and letting everyone do whatever they like to do best (within certain boundaries, of course).
However, I think there are strong signs that there might be something like a religious feeling. The first one is purely numerical: Religion is extremely widespread: Even the most primitive cultures in remote areas have some kind of belief. The second one is rather subjective; I feel that it is hard not to experience a feeling of wonderment when looking at the world in detail. Certainly, science can describe nature quite well; but it cannot say why it is this way, and I find that if you look at things long enough, like a tree for instance, you start to realise that things are quite amazing.
There might be an alternative explanation: Possibly, religion is man's attempt to find explanations for everything. I have yet to hear about a religion which does not offer some explanation for life after death or for how the world was created. These are questions that cannot be answered rationally, and there are gaps in human systems of thought without answers for them. We always look for a reason for things to be the way they are, so perhaps this is why we created religion. It is very tempting to accept the ''absolute truths'' a religion provides in order to have a system of thought in which all questions are answered. I am too much of a sceptic to do that, though.
Since I tend to believe in the feeling of wonderment I described earlier, I think that the reason religions exist is this religious feeling, upon which systems of thought, providing explanations, are then built. It seems to me that the rituals involved in practically every religion cannot be explained if religion were merely a rational construct, and brain analyses have shown, I believe, that there is a centre in the brain which is active when a person is in a religious mood.
Another question I would like to discuss is whether the emotional feeling is more of a rational ''revelation'' which provides all the rational answers or just an emotional feeling that does not provide information. I think there are some facts that point towards it being the latter:
If there were one absolute rational truth revealed in the experience, why then are there so many different, conflicting religions? One could argue that most must have been lying about their experiences. But which one? And wouldn't the absolute truth, if there were such a thing, be obviously enlightening to everyone? Why then are there so many large religions, who are all sure they are right?
To me, the emotional explanation seems more logical. If you just have a feeling of wonder, perhaps you try to explain it and make a system out of it with your rational mind. Perhaps, these days, every religion tells a person who has had the experience that it is their god who provided it, which turns the person into an avid follower.
Finally, I would like to add that I think Christian values are generally very good. However, I think that the good ones can also be justified objectively; also, I do not think it is wise to hang on to a potentially wrong idea merely because it creates good people, like the Christian religion often does -- although since Christian ****-phobics and creationists show that the opposite can be true, too. I have read St Matthews Gospel, and it seems to me that Jesus's main message was: ''Follow your inner light!''. Though mentions of hell and punishment put me off, I heartily agree with his core message.
I hope I have succeeded in outlining my thought process and in being as objective as possible, and am looking forward to your answers!

Martin
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Only an INTP would be so religiously undecided that s/he calls him/herself "agnostic atheist".

Is that like "I believe that there is no god, but I believe that knowledge about the existence of god is impossible, thus rendering every further debate about the existence or non-existence of said god pointless"?
Exactly. No use arguing against something that cannot be proved scientifically and concretely.
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:D No matter what you guys say, I think you're all amazing for being able to share your opinions about God. Thanks a lot!

Sometimes, it's finding Him that's hard; when I finally do, I realize that He was with me all along. He was there everywhere I went, and everybody I saw on the streets: they were Him. In them He was always there. And this soothes me, and relaxes me, and because I know he's always there, it's so simple. You need some time to really give yourself some room to just realize that He was there all along. For you. For me.

No, I haven't experienced anything "fantastic" or "otherworldly" yet, but God has been so generous, so unconditionally loving, so reassuring and his presence is so powerful and unwavering that it's a sad thing that I didn't know Him before. He was in me all along, but I just didn't know. I didn't even look, but He was always waiting. For me. And He will always wait for me. He will never let you feel loneliness or desperation. He's always there. He is. He really is. And I love Him so much. He needs me, I need Him, and this makes me so much stronger. He gives me the confidence that I've always lacked, the strength that I never knew I had, and the smiles I never knew I could give to others. He's unconditional and He never gives up on you.

I'm just so glad I've finally found Him. He was so kind waiting for me. And He will always wait. He's always there for you. His love is just so strong. Beyond words strong.

Thanks a lot to all of you again.
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I am in the same position of thought on religion as noctilux above. Years ago, I had more faith and was more committed to christian principals. But as I began to understand how the human mind can be "tricked" and how the different religions of the past provided comfort and answered the unknowns of the world, I couldn't help but question its tenants. Even the philosophies and logic of the religions stirs up confusion to some who really think about it. To this day, it is still difficult for me to place strong faith in any religion. Though, I can still conceive the possibility of a higher entity existing and a purpose along with that. Personally, I hope there is such a ultimate purpose for us.
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Born into a roman catholic family. Never took catholicism class seriously and declared myself an atheist to my parents in my early teens. My father followed suit soon after. My mother is still very spiritual but has also abandoned catholicism.

I recently took an interest in pantheism but that didn't last very long. I told a friend about it and he asked me "why?". Why call the universe god? I pondered the question for a while and couldn't find a truly good reason. It seems to me that atheism is the only honest stance to take.
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(note that this is a heavy topic for me, and a very interesting one at that, so to contain all that I think into this little space is literally KILLING my poor intp brain D:)

I was born and raised in a heavily Christian family, but was never really much interested myself. Only when I was very little. When I started thinking for myself I kind of fell away from it, and just stopped caring in my early teens.

I got back interested a few years ago. My views/beliefs/whatev are varied and subject to change, and range from atheism to paganism to new age spirituality. I'm interested in everything. Right now I'm leaning towards agnostic. I don't know whether a supreme being does or doesn't exist and, really, why worry about it? I'd much rather live my life now than worry about what comes After. Let's finish this journey before we start out on the next...

I would like there to be a supreme being, though. Or at least a Universal Life Force. That we're not just the amazing products of an even more amazing accident. Might make life more interesting, to know that something created all this, that the heartbeat of something pervades the entire universe. But I don't think this god would be like the monotheistic gods we worship. Because really, with a WHOLE UNIVERSE out there, why the hell would god spend all his time messing around with us pesky humans? ;p
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As an INTP, I think holding a strong religious beliefs would cause enormous cognitive dissonance. I don't know how you guys do it.
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